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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Scientist Rearrange Chaotic Citrus Family Tree
« on: February 10, 2018, 02:44:17 PM »
.So poncirus is the only true one outside of the Citrus family proper?

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Arctic Frost / Orange Frost Satsuma?
« on: December 10, 2017, 04:29:03 PM »
Don't waste your time unless you have space to spare.  It's not any more cold hardy than a regular satsuma,  probably less hardy imo.

So if the cold hardiness is a wash,  just get the best tasting early satsuma that you can...

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Ichang lemon pie; fruit from SE citrus expo!
« on: December 07, 2017, 07:52:51 PM »
Citradia, good job. Can't wait to get fruit from mine. 10 seeds sounds like a lot for a seedless fruit.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: How Many Trees Per Acre Needed To Make A Profit
« on: December 07, 2017, 07:49:55 PM »
I guess that's the end for smaller growers. The land is too expensive and globalization makes it hard to compete paying us labor prices.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: We must save the knowledge accumulated on the old forum.
« on: November 28, 2017, 01:42:21 AM »
For sure. That forum was where I first started my citrus interests. There's so much discussion and info that we left there. ..

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Just Returned From The 2017 Citrus Expo In Savannah, Georgia
« on: November 23, 2017, 02:21:11 PM »
Quote from: Waiting on November 23, 2017, 01:46:28 AM
Is that moss in the Thomasville tree?

And look at the thorns on the Nansho and the Ichangensis! Ouch!

yep. The Spanish Moss has taken the tree over. I saw it when I went to Savannah for a conference this year. They also have an experimental area now where they are reproducing the colonial plantings. Several mandarins are there as well....

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Just Returned From The 2017 Citrus Expo In Savannah, Georgia
« on: November 20, 2017, 01:47:18 AM »
Millet,

Glad someone went. Any pictures or opinions on the winners of the Citrus beauty pageant?

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Anyone growing olives?
« on: October 21, 2017, 02:23:59 PM »
There is a very popular olive oil company in southern GA. One of their websites is below:

http://georgiaolivefarms.com/gof/products-services/

I think they grow mostly Arbequina.

I also saw some fruiting at the Savannah Bamboo Gardens...

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Your favorite zone 8a plants?
« on: October 21, 2017, 01:57:20 PM »
I'm in an 8a, and you can grow probably any sub tropical or temperate crop if you pick the right varieties. I have several "hardy" citrus with little to no protection. You can try better tasting mainstream varieties, but you will have to protect them.

Figs, pineapple guavas, asian persimmons, pomegranates are easy.
If your soil is a match, add blueberries.

Blackberries will do better than raspberries in the Southeast. It just gets too hot for them as opposed to 8a in the Northwest or west coast.

If you can manage spraying and a lot of preventative maintenance, peaches, apples, cherries, plums, apricots, can be be grown.

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: cold hardy Citrus for zone 7b?
« on: September 10, 2017, 02:20:32 PM »
Hello,

Snellville is a bit outside the heat island, but I recommend Citrangequats, Ichang lemons, or Changshas on the South side of  property.
If you only have an exposed spot, a Dunstan Citrumelo or Morton Citrange should work.

If you are willing to use containers, plant anything you want, but Meyer Lemons and Satsumas will need less nights of protection.

Just temper your expectations about taste. You should probably taste a few before you plant them....

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Origins of different Citrus types, illustrated diagram
« on: July 29, 2017, 06:30:33 PM »
Yes, they missed trifoliata and ichangensis.

There are also a few other varieties that we recently found like Citrus Glauca (from Australia) and Mangshanyegan (Wild Mandarin- like fruit from China).

Lots of available genetic material worldwide, especially in China where the West has limited access....

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Prison Cold Hardy Citrus Grove
« on: June 10, 2017, 12:30:53 AM »
Quote from: Tom on June 08, 2017, 09:58:59 AM
Great post. Dr. Wayne Hanna's work is very exciting. Great job University of Georgia ! Thanks Millet. I have no idea where you find all these 'gems'. Tom

I managed to snag  Sweet Frost and Grand Frost plants a few weeks ago thanks to a series of lucky coincidences. The company that bought the rights say that they should have much more next year. Hopefully they can get a good distributor deal worked out.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Can citrus be grown in Austin, TX?
« on: April 15, 2017, 08:37:38 PM »
There are people on other boards that grow hardy Citrus in Dallas, so Austin can easily grow citrus. It would be probably best to try the more cold hardy mainstream citrus like Kumquats, Satsumas, Meyer Lemons etc. Oranges and Grapefruits are probably risking heartbreak...

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Arctic Frost Satsuma experience
« on: April 08, 2017, 09:03:05 AM »
I had one some years ago. Totally wimped out on me. It wasn't even close to the low that they said it could endure. It was up against a south wall and with protection. Just for comparison, my yuzuquat and meyer lemon that were in the same situation are still alive.

Maybe the name should be changed to Temperate Chill......

Totally false advertising on this variety, and it doesn't appear to come back from the trunk or roots after taking damage, unlike most citrus...

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Spring growth on trifoliate hybrids meets 14 degrees F!!!
« on: March 18, 2017, 09:00:50 PM »
We will probably have to buy those Michigan peaches this year again. My pears, figs, pomegranates got fried. The trifoliate got zapped, but my citrangequat is still fine. That kumquat genetic dna keeps it dormant for longer than my other fruit.

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Using up those Citrangequats!!!
« on: October 16, 2016, 10:59:57 PM »
This one is from seed, and is about 6 years old now.
It started producing last year.
If only my Yuzuquat got the hint. That one has yet to produce a thing. However, it did get zapped hard from the ice storm 2 years ago, so maybe next year...

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Using up those Citrangequats!!!
« on: October 16, 2016, 05:05:05 PM »
So I finally got some time to take a look at the tree this year. This one always is a great producer. So let's see what we can do with these.

First up, key lime pie or rather, citrangequat pie...
First ingredient, 1 Thomasville citrangequat tree!
   

I picked quite a few fruit, but I still have enough for maybe 3 or 4 more of these..

   

I actually needed less of these than I thought, because they are so juicy. The skin is very thin, but I was able to zest them easily enough.

   

The finished product. And my wife promptly adopted the first slice.

   

BTW, the remnants made an excellent margarita, if you're so inclined. I think I'll use some to make a nice persimmon and peach hot sauce since I have an excess of habaneros and fuyus this year......



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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Ichang Lemon
« on: September 14, 2016, 11:21:22 PM »
I pestered Stan Mckenzie for 3 years. He somehow had one sitting around last year (because these are not usually grafted at all) and I snatched it up.
Sometimes you just have to stay open. I snatched up a Yuzuquat from someone else 2 years ago just by having space in may car and some cash.
I have 4 or so seedling Bloomsweets that I can't give away. No-one wants them.....


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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Ichang Lemon
« on: September 13, 2016, 10:41:44 PM »
Yes, I was at that Tifton grove as well. I wanted an Ichang to taste, but a young man saw one first and jumped and took it. I didn't see any more then. I have a grafted one in a pot that I hope will fruit in a year or two....

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Ripe fruit dropping
« on: June 16, 2016, 08:37:12 AM »
I am from Atlanta, and I have noticed a lot of drop too. This is on my citrangequat, as well as non citrus trees, like fuyu persimmons. I think the drought and earlier heat is to blame. Even fruit that are past the stage of development that you would think of, are falling off the tree....

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Persimmon tree problem
« on: April 24, 2016, 07:05:25 PM »
Quote from: TnTrobbie on April 21, 2016, 11:32:31 PM
I love a good looking lawn and have wondered about weed n feed ferts and fruit trees. Thanks for the link.

My trees are in my lawn. I don't  use weed n feed.
I use pre-emergent 3 times a year, and straight fertilizer another 3.
Weednfeed doesn't do either well, and it can mess up your other plants.

If you use glyphosate, your best bet is to use in fall and winter, and hand pull the rest of the year. You could ALSO use cardboard as a barrier then spray, but I'm leery of breeze and spray droplets....

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Mapping The Citrus Genome
« on: December 25, 2015, 06:23:42 PM »
As far as resistance, the trifoliate and its hybrids seem to be the most resistant. The University of Florida released information on several hybrid rootstocks that seemed almost invulnerable to greening, and all of them were based off trifoliate. I think sour orange was next in resistance

Time for them to bring back the citrangequat as a parent!  :)

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Ichang and Tiwanica lemon
« on: November 11, 2015, 02:00:47 PM »
I've always wanted an Ichang for the fragrance, but I can't find anyone with a grafted form Those things take 8-10 years from seed, and I just can't commit to that wait.

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: First crop of Citrangequats
« on: November 11, 2015, 01:56:41 PM »
Quote from: mrtexas on November 08, 2015, 11:56:28 AM
Quote from: manfromyard on September 23, 2015, 04:28:37 PM
Yes. This one is Thomasville. I know some people complain about the taste, but it's very limeish tasting. I mixed some with rosemary simple syrup and some water, and my wife and her aunt didn't throw up The wife said that it tasted a wee bit unripe though.

I also have an 10/3&4 Citrangequat. in a pot, growing large enouhg to transplant next spring

Although edible you won't be smiling when you taste them. In 2000 I bought a 3 gallon with fruit.
When I got home I tasted the fruit and it was the worst tasting citrus I had ever tried, that is until I tried a citrange. I wondered why
any nursery would sell such a tree. Grafted it to satsuma so I could eat the fruit.

It's definitely no satsuma, but I've tasted worse sour citrus such as Kaffir Lime and Yuzu
I basically use it for cooking and drinks.
Unless I luck out, I doubt it will ever get to the ripe stage in 7B.

Those of us below zone 8 have to take what we can get Stuff like Citrangequats and Ichang lemon are our best shots.

If you can get away with Meyer Lemons, I would definitely take that over a citrangequat, but since I'm half a zone away from in ground Meyers..

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: First crop of Citrangequats
« on: September 28, 2015, 09:13:50 PM »
 :( Thank you Ilya I guess cuttings it is. USDA has literature stating that it roots very easily, so I guess I'll try that.

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