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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Happy Easter
« on: April 02, 2018, 01:17:31 PM »
Technically, Easter isn't until this Sunday, nevertheless for all you followers of the Western calendar, I hope you all had a blessed Easter.  :)

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Actually vinegar ( acetic acid) :)

We often employ a small bowl of apple cider vinegar and add a few drops of dish soap to trap and dispose of fruit flies in our kitchen.  Not sure about the connection with ACP, but an interesting parallel usage of acetic acid.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Kachai Lemon
« on: March 23, 2018, 12:51:57 PM »
Hmm, lemon pickles.  I'll have to remember to try making those when I get 50+ meyer lemons and don't know what to do with them all.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Pavlovsky lemon
« on: March 15, 2018, 01:17:27 PM »
For what its worth, that second website is not Russian. It is Ukrainian.
It was a poor attempt to be humorous.  Sorry if I offended anyone.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Pavlovsky lemon
« on: March 14, 2018, 05:36:34 PM »
Picture on that second link looks pretty doctored.  Could it be that the Russians are gas lighting these pages too?  :o

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I don't see white flesh. Flesh looks more pale than on would like but it seems to be within the color range for an orange.  Perhaps better sun or nutrients might make an orange more to you liking?  Also, I agree with Millet: does not look to be a navel ernge.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Trees Flowering
« on: March 13, 2018, 10:14:16 AM »
Oranges (moro, sanguinelli & toracco)  and satsumas (owari & xie shan) are blooming big time. Ujukitsu and the cara cara grafted onto it are blooming as well.  Meyer lemon, not so much this year and neither is the N33 navel orange grafted to it.  In-ground Rio Red grapefruit refuses to flower for the 4th year in a row (it had fruit when I planted it 5 years ago) though it is about 8 feet tall and lush. Too early for the meiwa and changshou kumquats to bloom.  They don't usually bloom around here until May, but they have leafed out very nicely after kicking their leaves due to the freezes we had. Bloomsweet grapefruit and chandler pomelo look to be taking this year off.  Kaffir lime hasn't bloomed either but that doesn't matter.

Peaches look good so the annual battle with the squirrels begins to see if I am able to harvest.  Pecans have not leafed out yet. Pomegranates haven't flowered and persimmons are beginning to bud. Fig looking strong as always. Loquats are fruiting late.  Usually I'm harvesting in March, but not this year. Brazos bell avocado grafted on to a hass volunteer rootstock expired due to cold or root stock death, not sure which.

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Millet,
How leaving the fruit on one branch hang work out?

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Xie Shan Q
« on: March 12, 2018, 12:40:28 PM »
Mine is grafted to an Omari.  Seems to have a weeping growth habit.

Do you mean an Owari satsuma ? Your Owari is grafted to some other root stock I’d think. The Xie Shan could certainly be grafted or budded to an Owari satsuma. Owari is the satsuma grown more than any other or so I’ve always heard.

The owari is semi-weeping and my 3 year old Xie Shan grafted to this owari grows the same although it wants to be some what more upright than the owari.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Xie Shan Q
« on: March 10, 2018, 01:03:54 PM »
Mine is grafted to an Omari.  Seems to have a weeping growth habit.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Valentine Pumelo
« on: March 10, 2018, 01:02:51 PM »
I know this is an old thread, but how does Valentine compare to Chandler?  I think I only have room for one.
I’ve been disappointed in my chandler.  It’s been dry and extremely seedy.  I’ve harvested it in late December into,January and have never had an edible one, it’s been so dry.  My hope is to graft a valentine on it if I can locate bud wood. Maybe a white grapefruit to see what that fuss is all about!

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Valentine Pumelo
« on: March 09, 2018, 02:03:57 PM »
Just so that my position is clear, I fully expect this to be a very nice-tasting variety.

I don't believe a comparison can be made of growing conditions at Patty's, Bob's, and Ryan's to that at Lindcove which receives a lot more heat.  Especially this year when things warmed up by February.

How do you typically eat a Valentine?  I have tried two methods with Oro Blanco and am not sure which I prefer.  I will sometimes cut in half and then, over the sink, scrape out the seeds with a grapefruit spoon and then scoop out the remaining sections with the spoon.  I have also sometimes peeled the entire fruit and then peeled the skin off the sections, bite out the seeds and spit them out, and then eat the rest of the fruit.

Are the skins/membranes of the Valentine sections typically consumed or not?

Was perusing the back ages and found this.  Hope it isn't a stale subject: I supreme my larger citrus. I'll do three or four grapefruits at a time and put the supremed sections in the fridge.  Love Ruby Red done this way.  I haven't tried this on pommelo since I have only had dry useless crops of chandler.  My wife appreciates this approach to consuming grapefruit. As for the smaller citrus, I just quarter and eat them.


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Citrus General Discussion / Re: When to Pick Moro Blood Orange?
« on: March 09, 2018, 01:44:00 PM »
Ypurgos you asked ...."would applying biuret to this tree in January counter the alternate bearing tendency'

The answer is it would not completely counter the alternate bearing, but it would help.  The fertilizer goal for the heavy crop year with alternate bearing trees is to provide adequate fertilizer to support the developing crop, and to also support the summer vegetative shoot growth (normally in June) which become the blooming shoots for the following year (the off crop year). Therefore, be sure to also apply a low biuret urea foliar spray directly after the tree's early drop period.  (After a citrus tree blooms the tree will set many more small fruitlets than the tree can possibly supply enough energy to bring all of them to maturity, so it drops a great number of the new fruitlets, plus many of the flowers that never set -- this is called the Early Drop). Foliar spraying low biuret urea directly after the early drop should supply much of the energy to greatly help with fruit set during the off year.

Thank you Millet.  This looks to be a banner year for my moro so I will have remember this for next year. This year I will need to thin I think. 

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Pomelo in general
« on: March 07, 2018, 05:27:18 PM »
I used to have a Chandler Pummelo tree.  The flesh is semi-firm and pick in color.  I don't remember it being really sweet, but it definitely was a good tasting variety.  My wife loved it.  I removed the tree just so that I could make room of a Valentine pummelo.

My chandler is always very dry and tasteless when I pick them in January or late December.  Perhaps I'm waiting too long to harvest. I'm thinking the longer a citrus hangs the sweeter it gets, but not in this situation, apparently.  My tree is about 8 years old in the ground.  This year I intend to pick them in early Nov. to see if I get better fruit.  Otherwise I may cut it down and graft with Valentine.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Cara Cara vs Tarocco ?
« on: March 07, 2018, 04:57:08 PM »

One thing to consider is it's easy to get Cara Cara in the grocery store. I've never seen Tarocco blood orange sold anywhere. I have seen Moro at the grocery.
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The reason one never sees Tarocco in the store is 1: tastes inferior to Moro and 2: does not reliably get the desired red inside as well as Moro.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Cara Cara vs Tarocco ?
« on: March 07, 2018, 10:54:34 AM »
You already have the best blood orange in the moro.  Cara cara is so unique with excellent flavor that's where I'd lean.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Lot less leaf miners this year
« on: March 06, 2018, 10:52:59 AM »
This brings up another good question, spray for CLM or don't spray?    In my case CLM  seem to effect less than 10-15% of my in ground  citrus tree leaves regardless of time of year.
If I had such a slight infestation, I wouldn't spray.  One benefit of citrus to me is they are the host plant for the giant swallowtail butterfly.  I gladly allow the sacrifice of a few leaves for this caterpillar and CLM sprays kills these larvae. The leaves eaten by the caterpillar pale in comparison to the CLM. 

In any event, I was hit hard by rust mites last year so I will be spraying for those. 

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Lot less leaf miners this year
« on: March 05, 2018, 12:56:04 PM »
I never get CLM with the first flush.  Problem grows with each successive generation though so by August its virtually 100% of the leaves are hit if I don't spray (and its pretty high even when I do). 

Wishful thinking but I doubt the cold did anything other than slow them down for a few weeks. 

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: When to Pick Moro Blood Orange?
« on: March 05, 2018, 12:48:30 PM »
I have an 8 yr old moro. (rather 8 years since I planted this nursery bought tree)   In the past, my fruit will start to fall on their own by early Feb or late January.  They certainly would not stay on the tree 'till March.  It is a in-ground tree so perhaps cold weather may be the cause of this.  Or maybe as the tree matures its ability to hold fruit will improve.

Millet, would applying biuret to this tree in January counter the alternate bearing tendency of this variety? It is highly alternate bearing.  This year, based on flowers, will be a good year.
Thanks all.  I love this forum!

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I have use kaffir limes to flavor kumquat marmalade.  I drop two or three whole fruits in a 3 quart batch while the batch is cooking (before adding the sugar).  It imparts an imperceptible but nice flavor to the marm. I discard the fruit after the first boil.  I also throw in a few small chilies for a slight kick.

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Thanks Millet.  Good info. My citrus (except kumquat and grapefruit) are all in flower bud now so it's too late for this regimen for me.  However, due to a several day cold snap (~20F) here on the upper Texas Gulf Coast in mid-January most of my in-ground citrus pretty much kicked most/all of their leaves.  They are generally leafing out with abandon now.  Would this regimen have worked had I sprayed prior to the cold weather?
Thanks

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Interesting Product (Flolar Feeding)
« on: October 26, 2017, 02:05:49 PM »
I wonder if the high level of potassium would aid in winter hardiness.  The Fertilome company used to sell a product called "Frost Pruf & Fruit Booster" that was a potassium foliar spray. They have discontinued it. It gave a couple of degrees more hardiness to citrus.  Helpful when plants are young and more susceptible to the occasional mid 20 degree freezes we get on occasion here on the upper Gulf Coast of Texas.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: co2 death chamber
« on: July 06, 2017, 01:41:59 PM »
Why not a bucket of water that the trap fits into?  This takes care of squirrels/rates/mice in a very few seconds. ThisCO2 contraption seems way too complicated. (and relocating your trapped rodents elsewhere shows zero consideration of the people in that vicinity).

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Kumquats
« on: July 06, 2017, 01:29:51 PM »
Kumquat marmalade works great as a glaze for salmon or pork

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Interestingly, January '17 we had a period of sudden freezes here in Houston TX after an extended period of temps in the 70's.  Trees were not hardened off. Temps fell into the upper 20's precipitously.  Different Citrus responded uniquely: 
1  Meyer Lemons all froze on the tree and the tree is against the south side of the house.  Tree suffered leaf burn but not much else.  its a mature (+15 year) old tree.  All crop was lost. 
2. Moro blood orange and bloomsweet grapefruit, which are away from the house on the north side, were all fine except for some minor leaf burn. Fruit unaffected. Same with the ujukitsu orange.
3. 20+ year old Meiwa kumquat kicked all its leaves and it is in a protected area between my and the neighbors house.
4. My 2 satsumas were totally unaffected.

Brazos belle avocado that's grafted onto a volunteer hass avocado stump didn't even get leaf burn and it's next to the Meyer lemon.

That was pretty much our winter.  Now I'm seeing a third flush of blooms on my Meyer lemon and it had never had more than one bloom flush before.

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