Anyone have seeds or plants available for planting in hawaii?

I wonder at 1,000 ft elevation in hawaii if I will have better success growing with cherimoyas or atemoyas??

I know of one good sugar apple tree i plan to plant seeds from when it fruits this winter..

Also I've never tried Ilama. Are they not grown much in hawaii?

Quote from: ben mango on May 02, 2014, 04:44:10 PM

Quote from: fruitlovers on April 30, 2014, 05:58:48 PM

Quote from: gunnar429 on April 30, 2014, 01:06:50 PM

not sure if you mean the fruit or the tree.  I would get the tree for variety and to increase smoothie selection--not for eating out of hand.  I don't have it yet, but it is on my list

If you do buy fruit, let it get "looks like it was in the compost pile for 2 weeks" ripe.  When it's leaking juice, blend it up with other fruit and some honey.  mmmm!  It not only gives a chocolate-like flavor, but also a nice yogurt-like texture.

Believe it or not some black sapotes are quite good out of hand. They are not going to be super sweet like a japanese persimmon, but never the less are good. Some trees produce very bland fruits, but some cultivars are quite yummy out of hand.

Have you ever eaten them in Mexico?  My fruit loving friend says he's had some there that are sweet like a persimmon.

No i haven't eaten them in Mexico. But it's not a matter of where you eat them, but rather the nature of the fruit itself. It's like wanting lemons to taste like tangerines when grown in Mexico.
It's possible also that what your friend ate was a chocolate persimmon, this is a different fruit than a black sapote. Chocolate persimmon can be very sweet.

He made clear it was a black sapote as i was holding some.. The nature of the fruit and also the environment it's grown in may have a big impact on sweetness. Marang for example doesn't sweeten here in Hawaii like it does in the Davao area...

Some are quite sweet. if you leave them to get dark browny green where the bottom of the fruit cracks a little with only the weight of the the fruit, you can transfer it to a plastic container in the fridge so the pulp can thicken/firm up. With a good moist type there will be a juice in the plastic container and you can drink it. It is very sweet.

If you are trying to sell it to the wife, just tell her its a low calorie desert. Just add a dolop of cream and some honey, or OJ, or Cointreau. Loverly!

Try to find a moist type if you can. Like most fruits, there are variances in fruit quality, with some being terrible mealy things that dont even beat down well into pudding, let alone stand up to out of hand eating.

I heard they can be sweet in mexico and Queensland  I wonder why not here..

Has anyone had success planting black sapote from seed and getting a productive tree ?