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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit trees in containers
« on: October 17, 2014, 07:39:33 PM »
Giant Amora





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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit trees in containers
« on: October 17, 2014, 07:36:41 PM »
Myrciaria coronata var. - Jabuticaba Coroada da Restinga (Grafted)





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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit trees in containers
« on: October 17, 2014, 07:27:58 PM »
Spondias purpurea - Siriguela (Aired). Fruits are a bit damaged due to transport.





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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Fruit trees in containers
« on: October 17, 2014, 07:23:50 PM »
I don´t have a big house, nor soil enough to allow me put the trees on the floor, so... containers are my choice. :)

Spondias dulcis - Cajamanga-anão





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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Container Sweetheart Lychee
« on: October 17, 2014, 07:19:31 PM »
Well, here it goes my Lychees, both in containers. :)




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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Sweet lemon
« on: October 17, 2014, 07:11:59 PM »
Well, I remember one lemon which the name is "Limão Coração Bahia". It resembles the "Dekopon" in shape and the "Champagne Orange" in flavor, being the flesh very clear and with a lot of juice. I have a small grafted tree, and her flowers has a long life (the pic attached is from 20/09/14, and the flowers are still there!). See the pic attached. The fruits also posted, aren´t from my tree, but from the seller´s tree. The tree cost me R$ 110,00, something around U$ 40,00. ;)




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Obrigado Cassio,

Vou responder em português, assim nao preciso ficar usando o google translate hehehehehe.  A jabuticabeira do seu amigo, pode ser a  paulista ou a coronata, pois agora é a epoca da floraçao de ambas.
No pico do jaraguá como faço para visitar a casa do Alfonso sartinha? na verdade quero ver as jabuticabeiras,
O Butantã que vc falou, é no instituto Butantã?
Abraço

Ricardo


Ricardo, a casa do bandeirante Afonso Sardinha é uma construção histórica datada de 1580 e que fica dentro do Parque do Jaraguá. Data do tempo em que pomares eram comuns em nossa cidade. Preview das jabuticabeiras: http://www.sosma.org.br/blog/veteranas-de-guerra-jabuticabeiras-do-pico-do-jaragua/ Chegando no Parque, é só perguntar que te indicam como chegar na casa. ;)
Sobre o Cambucá, outras jabuticabeiras, cabeludinha e ubanaxica, isso mesmo, é no Instituto Butantã. Se você for no final de semana é mais fácil chegar perto das árvores sem que ninguém te perturbe. Para vê-las, faça o seguinte: conhece a lanchonete dentro do Butantã? Siga pela rua central, passe pelo Hospital que trata quem foi picado por cobras e siga até ver a casa rosada. Ao lado esquerdo dela você já verá uma velha e imensa jabuticabeira. Um pouco antes desta jabuticabeira, à esquerda dela, você verá os Prédios da Diretoria (na verdade, casas da antiga sede da fazenda), em um leve aclive. Uma rua tem o acesso proibido, mas a outra não. Siga por essa liberada até atrás do prédio da Diretoria.  Atrás, exatamente ao meio e onde termina o calçamento, você verá dois pés de cambucá muito altos e, atrás e à direita deles, umas 8 jabuticabeiras. Todo o entorno do prédio da Diretoria, do lado esquerdo de quem sobe, está "forrado" de pés de cabeludinha e ubanaxica. Dá última vez que fui lá (meados de agosto) transformei minha camisa em uma "bacia" para colher cabeludinha e ubanaxica, depois sentei e papei todas! Espero que tenhas a mesma sorte! :)

Bem, se tudo der certo, devo ir lá sábado ou domingo, pois da outra vez os guardinhas me disseram que lá perto da casa rosada tem um pé que dá as maiores jabuticabas que existem (agora deve estar começando a época), e eu estou "seco" para conseguir vê-las.

For the other members: excuse me to post in portuguese, but is easiest  in our native language to give directions to Ricardo about the trees location. ;)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Container Sweetheart Lychee
« on: October 12, 2014, 10:15:50 PM »
Hi Cassio...Welcome to the forum! Good luck with your lychee trees  8)[/font][/size]

Thank you!
I can´t allow mine to grow like that!  :o

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Container Sweetheart Lychee
« on: October 10, 2014, 11:19:56 AM »
I have two lychee trees in pots, which I bought from distinct sellers in september of this year.
The smaller has something like 80 cm tall and around 20 fruits growing, and the bigger has something near 2m tall but no fruits yet. I don´t have practice pruning lychees, so, I´ll watch this topic with interest. Sellers said me that both trees are from layering (alporquia).
As a side note, my bigger tree is recovering from acaro-erinose, a health issue to much common in lychees.

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This tree is an incredible giant Ricardo! Never found a tree like this one.

A friend of mine, has a large property near of Jundiai city. Last time I was there (four months ago), he lead me to see an old jaboticaba tree, which has something near of 6 meters tall. Young leafs are dark red, small, but my friend said the fruits are really BIG. I think it´s a jaboticaba-açú, but I´m not sure. Last weekend he told me the tree begun to flowering and invited me to go there again. When there, I´ll take photos of the tree and post here.

Ricardo, do you know Pico do Jaraguá? There are some really old jaboticaba trees there too, near of the old Afonso Sardinha house. Butantã Park also has old jaboticaba, cabeludinha and ubanaxica trees, and also a BIG cambucá tree . Do you know them? It worth a visit. ;)

As a side note, I have a grafted jaboticaba-coroada-da-restinga tree (1,20 m. tall) in a container, which produced his first fruit last month. The fruit had a small seed and a good amount of "flesh", but wasn´t so sweet. For now, the tree has other 3 or 4 small fruits. I´ll post photos later.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Longkong or Duku or Duku-Langsat or Langsat
« on: September 12, 2014, 03:19:00 PM »
As for how long to fruit?  There is a saying that you plant these trees for your grandchildren!!  LOL! 

Here in Brazil we say the same in respect to some species of jaboticaba and cambuca, right Ricardo? :) But don´t worry, you´re still young enough.  ;)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Big Red Sugar Apple
« on: September 12, 2014, 02:04:00 PM »
So what's the story of this trees origin?  I don't think I've ever asked.

Based upon what I heared, the var. discussed in this thread is native from Flórida, but don´t know if it´s a hybrid.
But exists fruits that are red outside and aren´t hybrids, like the Fruta-da-Condessa – (Annona reticulata), the Pindaíva – (Duguetia lanceolata) and the Marolo – (Annona coriacea).
Short text about these annonas: https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=pt&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.infobibos.com%2FArtigos%2F2007_2%2Fanonaceas%2Findex.htm

The Araticum-de-Raposa (annona cornifolia) is native from Cerrado and has a red skin too. It isn´t that tall, but grows slowly. I have a young plant, currently without leafs. :)
To know more about her: https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=pt&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.colecionandofrutas.org%2Fannocorni.htm&edit-text=

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Where To Buy Tropical Fruit Online
« on: September 04, 2014, 08:10:22 AM »
Yes, Thao, all that you wrote is true in some degree.

Some aren´t hard to grow/find/propagate, don´t takes too long to produce and can handle transporting. And you could comercialize frozen pulp of the ones that can´t handle transporting. The vast majority of brazilians don´t know the native fruits, and I think the actual situation is a result of colonization and imported culture. So, the native fruits remained almost forgotten for a long time.

To say the truth, actually there is a crescent interest in the native fruits here, and a few are being produced or at least collected from the nature, as the uvaia for example. Brazil is a big country, and it also makes difficult to find/ to know all the fruits. Regionally it´s easier, but still, is hard to find them. :)


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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Where To Buy Tropical Fruit Online
« on: September 03, 2014, 09:01:46 AM »
Sadly, here in Brazil we don´t have options to build these fruits online. Only "normal" fruits (or ;)ange, pear, apple...) are available.
But you guys have so much more wonderful tropical fruits locally, so you're not missing too much  ;)

Sure we have, but unhappyness they aren´t comercialized.
Of the 20 most consumed fruits here in Brazil, only three are native to our country: pineapple, guava and passion fruit. Even jabuticaba gets off this list, although it is comercialized normally.
All the rest of our fruits is treated as exotic and comercialized at high prices, when found... In fact, is relatively easy to find lichia, rambutan, mangosten and others, but grumixamas, pitangatubas, saputás and all the others... There´s no signal.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Where To Buy Tropical Fruit Online
« on: September 02, 2014, 07:40:01 AM »
Sadly, here in Brazil we don´t have options to build these fruits online. Only "normal" fruits (orange, pear, apple...) are available.

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Adam,
Check these pics out :)
https://picasaweb.google.com/117765287497050349302/FrutasNativasDoBrasil#5555071632022196530
Edilson Giacon says that the dwarf Cerrado pitanga, is a shrubby specie, that grows just over a 1m and resprouts from the base forming a bushy shrub, with large and tasty fruit. This sp. can be planted in the ground or in pots 8)

It´s true. And exists black variants of this dwarf pitanga too. I have booth in pots and the red one in the soil.  8) The red one already fruited last year, but the black one still not. I´m growing them in black soil, not the one from cerrado. I think they are growing slower, but growing for sure. The taste is to much different (not acid) from normal pitangas, and the fruits are bigger too, an with almost no "depressions" in the skin like the other pitangas. Surelly is a good plant to have in you house.

I have seeds of E.lutescens planted and E.lutescens x pyriformis and they are taking their time to sprout. E.motossi,E.pitanga,E.itaguensis,Edysenterica,E.pyriformis and others planted around the same time are booming.E.neonitida and E.candolleana were almost jumping out of my hands to get at the soil and were throwing roots out with abandon.

Well, I bought young plants of E. matosii, E. itaguahiensys, E. piriformys,  E. lutescens, E. desyinterica, E. neonitida, E. observa, E. calicynia and others, and I keep all them in pots.
E. lutescens grows slowly in the first year, while E. itaguahiensys grows slowly forever!
E. observa has just 15 cm tall, still growing slowly.
E. matosii has 30 cm tall, and is flowering like crazy, but no fruits.
E. neonitida is flowering all the year, except from middle july to middle august, but produced just two fruits with small size until now.
E. piriformys has 80 cm tall, and is begining to flowering for the first time.
E, desynterica has 60 cm tall and is flowering for the first time too.

I´m living in São Paulo, where temperature vary from 8 celsius degrees (winter) to 38 celsius degress (summer), and can vary from 38 to 12 celsius degress and from full sun to full rain just in one day sometimes :)

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This is very interesting Cassio: how would be the pruning method after fruiting?

Never did it in fact, but talking with a neighbour that does it, he said me it is done by the same way as you do with jaboticabas. I can´t explain in details how he does it, but I saw his pitanga fruiting at least two times since last december.

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Cassio: there are not black e. unifloras in the streets? I wonder why it's not so popular as the flavour is so good.
And: does this species there use to fruit twice a year? and when?

Exactly! No black unifloras in the streets, Only the red ones.
Based upon my experience, both species produce fruits one time here: from august to november. But you can induce new flowering just prunning the trees after the first fruiting.

Oh, and your black pitanga is the smaller variant. Mine is bigger, but do not produce fruits yet. ;)

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Good news Marcos!
The pitangas are flowering here in São Paulo too. In fact a lot of them started flowering in the beginning of this month, so, we have fruits available already. :)
Near of my home, in the streets, there are a lot of trees of this fruit (red color), but the size and flavor of the fruit is different from tree to tree. Hope that your tree gives you big and sweet fruits.

In my house, I have a small pitanga do cerrado and a black pitanga, but both aren´t in the age of fruiting.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help me to identify it
« on: August 26, 2014, 04:42:45 PM »
Cassio,

"you stole it" is a figure of speech...meaning you got the tree for a great deal!!!

He, he... I understood, don´t worry. I answered in the same spirit. ;)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help me to identify it
« on: August 26, 2014, 07:53:24 AM »
look like M. aureana!  U stole that rare tree!! good job!

No, no, no, I do not stole. The seller insisted it was a goiaba :o and put the price down, then I stoped to discuss with him and bought the tree.  8) 8)
There, the price for the traditional jaboticabas were between R$ 150,00 to R$300,00, and he sold me this tree for only R$ 37,50 !!!! An excellent deal. Even better if it is a myrciaria aureana and almost fruiting!!.  :)
There´s one more tree left in the nursery, a bit smaller, but is still there. I think I´ll be back and buy it to re-sell. :D

hahaha, I would love we had those kind of nurseries!
congrats Cassio!

Thanks Marcos!
I would love to find more of these nurseries here too!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Help me to identify it
« on: August 25, 2014, 07:58:35 PM »
In a small nursery near of my home, I found a curious (at least to me) tree. Asking the seller about her, the answer was "it´s a goiaba". But flowering from the trunk and with these leafs? Looks like a jaboticaba, I said. "No... it´s a goiaba", he insisted. Also, he put a cheaper price to the tree, which has 2,20 meters tall. So, I ended the conversation and bought the tree.
I´m sure it isn´t a goiaba, but it has big leafs for a jaboticaba... Can you help me to identify it? Here it goes the photos. For comparison, the photo has leafs of the jaboticabas that i have.





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This are orchid flowers...Vanda Princess Mikasa Blue and Oncidium Sugar Baby. Era bom se dessem em árvore! lol ;D :P

Surelly! It could be a perfect combination!  8)

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Are the flowers from the same tree as the fruits?!?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Unknown Fruit
« on: August 19, 2014, 07:58:05 AM »
It is Syzigium cumini, fruits are a bit astringent , but good if u allow to over ripe a bit, it is a herb too, its fruit, root, bark.. all has medicinal properties... its wine , from the matured fruit, is superb...

And the the tree grows a lot! :)

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