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Agreed.  And in SoCal they like afternoon shade.

They seem to do fine without afternoon shade in coastal areas in SoCal (or at least in my coastal area).

Ah, yeah -- I should have said if you're in a coastal area of SoCal, probably within 3 miles of the coast, then they should be fine.  But they should have afternoon shade in a spot that gets sunny with temperatures above 85 on a regular basis.

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Quick recommendation.  If you go over 100 a lot, bring them inside before it hits the high 90's.

Agreed.  And in SoCal they like afternoon shade.

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Oh wow, you kept your Chachafruto alive!  That's great.  The ones I planted outdoors (unwisely) croaked long ago...

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I'd be interested to hear about any varieties -- I'm growing a few seedlings grown from seed from Oscar.  I'm sure it will be a very long time before they fruit because they're only about a year old.

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Breadfruit is one of the ones I've liked the best, but it won't grow here...  (I wish there were another Artocarpus with similarly large leaves that would grow here.)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Good rootstock for Abiu ?.
« on: March 13, 2019, 12:11:56 AM »
Has anyone tried grafting Abiu on Starapple?  Even those they are formally in different genera it seems like they are more similar as fruit than many Pouteria.

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I'm looking for a Saba banana pup/start/plant either for pick up in Southern California or by mail (I'm happy to pay shipping).  I bought one from Going Bananas but it looks like it might not make it.  (I also found some other sources but they either are out of stock or shady.)

Thanks!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Bubble gum flavored Cherimoya?
« on: March 10, 2019, 01:02:05 AM »
Behl and Booth -- interesting, thanks!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Bubble gum flavored Cherimoya?
« on: March 09, 2019, 03:10:17 PM »
I had a couple Cherimoyas (from the South Coast Cherimoya sale) that tasted like bubble gum and they were by far the best I've had recently.  (My trees have been launguishing in pots so I haven't gotten fruit yet.)

Which varieties have that flavor or similar strong fruity flavor?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Choice for White Sapote Cultivar
« on: March 04, 2019, 12:40:00 AM »
The best white sapotes I've had were one of Walton and one of Robert's Rainbow.

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How about Acerola (barbados cherry)?

I'm growing it and it's fine but doesn't seem that vigorous so far.  Does it have specific soil / climate requirements?

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If you just want a good looker and no fruit how about mexican sunflower (tithonia diversifolia)?  It grows really fast and large and makes tons of flowers.  It stays green all year and is completely dense so you cant see through it.

You can start ot from seed and have big 10ft tall plants in a year.




Ah, great idea.  I hadn't considered that.

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Reed avocados every 6ft

Haha, good point -- that would work well.  Though they'd be a perfect target for people to pick.

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I'm trying to plan what to plant along a 6 foot fence that will be along the roadside, where I need something that will provide good screening from the street and grow taller than the fence (ideally covering the height range from 6-20 feet because the fence will cover from 0-6 feet) and be lush and evergreen.  Ideally it'd also be fruit producing but something that the average passerby wouldn't think to pick.

Any ideas?  Bananas are an obvious choice given how fast they grow, but people might pick them.  Any other ideas?  I'd like something that I can plant now and that will provide good screening within a year or two here in SoCal.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Blood Red Illama
« on: February 23, 2019, 10:06:48 PM »
Do ilamas have a lot of seeds like cherimoyas, or are they less seedy?  I liked rollinia for the fact that it has more pulp vs. seeds than cherimoyas.

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Do you have a pic of the hillside?  My property is all very steep hillside.  The majority of it is just the native shaparal vegetation.  Sumac, scrub oak, salvia,...  Its only on the spots I've cleared that grass and wild lettuce, weeds etc has taken over.

You didnt say how many sq ft either.  Is it 5000 ft or 100,000ft ? 

Heres one ornamental hill cover I am really fond of.  It takes a few years to get it established though.




Interesting.  What is that ornamental cover called?

The hillsides are very steep (probably steeper than 45 degrees) and small pockets like 4000 sq ft here and there.

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The problem is that the hillsides I'm dealing with are so steep that the grasses are too shallow rooted to hold them, and the grasses only really have vitality for a few month period before they dry out and wither.  So I'm trying to establish something that can hold the soil.  Longer term oaks or something else drought tolerant with extensive roots would work, but they are slow growing.

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I'm trying to figure out something that can be direct seeded / scattered for perennial erosion control in a steep orchard.  The context is Southern California, but i'm curious generally for anything that does well in subtropical or tropical areas.

So far the best option for erosion control I can find is Vetiver grass, because its roots go straight down and are known to be very good for erosion control.  But it rarely sets seed, so it can't just be scattered across an eroding hillside.

Anyone have any suggestions?

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The forecast here in Southern OC has been for high 30s multiple times this winter, including the last few days, but we're in a low spot and have hit between 33 and 35 probably 7 times this winter.  Fortunately haven't gotten any days with obvious frost, but some of the ultra tropicals are looking sad despite being underneath bigger trees.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My 2019 Cherimoya Tast surprise bag
« on: February 08, 2019, 10:13:24 AM »
I got a bag as well from the South Coast Cherimoya tasting, and while most were bland, there was one very small slightly bumpy Cherimoya that was amazing -- had a fragrant bubble gum flavor.

Any idea what variety might have had that flavor?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mangoes in Oakland California?
« on: December 25, 2018, 01:41:00 AM »
There are folks who have grown and fruited mangoes in Fremont and Santa Clara.  I don't know how good they were.

Getting the trees to survive in Oakland shouldn't be hard -- I've grown them outdoors in the East Bay.  The problem is they grow absurdly slowly given the lack of warmth and when they eventually fruit unlikely to ripen well without the needed heat.  Might be possible if you create a really warm microclimate using asphalt, mirrors, and things like that.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: How true are Guavas from seed?
« on: December 11, 2018, 12:13:26 PM »
I grew them at Diablo Valley College -- probably a hundred guava trees in all -- and they sold most of them at their plant sales to raise funds for the college horticulture program.  So I never got to see how they fruit.  I do have a few that I've finally put in the ground myself, so we'll see how they do in the next year or two.

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I've fruited Ruby Glow in the past -- it's easier to fruit than P. alata, and is usually called Passiflora phoenicea because it's slightly different than P. alata.  It does require a cross pollinator (I usually used P. alata, but P. edulis can work too).

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cold hardy avocados for sale
« on: October 19, 2018, 07:22:25 PM »
My guess is Duke and Mexicola are among your best bets for decent tasting avocados that are also very cold tolerant.  I have no idea what they can actually withstand, but Duke trees have been living without protection in Oroville, CA for many decades and it gets cold there.

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