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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Passiflora similiar to P. ligularis
« on: December 26, 2014, 11:22:44 PM »
Can this be the real deal?
Coming from US... has me suspicious.
http://www.ebay.it/itm/Passiflora-Edulis-Misty-Gem-10-Seeds-/360626232519?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53f6ff9cc7


I've purchased from them (Georgia Vines) before -- they're generally reputable, though their seeds are often old or for whatever reason don't germinate that well.  I've bought Misty Gem from them, though none of them have germinated (and I've been waiting quite a while).

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Passiflora similiar to P. ligularis
« on: December 25, 2014, 12:46:31 PM »
Mike -- I think there are some Hawaiian Lilikoi subcultivars (is that even a word?) that are somewhat sweet.  The one I'm growing isn't as sour as some.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Passiflora similiar to P. ligularis
« on: December 24, 2014, 01:29:49 PM »
Mike -- which are your favorites of the non-flavicarpa edulis varieties grown in Southern Australia?  I have heard good things about Misty Gem and Sweetheart -- are there others that you'd recommend?

btw, somehow I managed to grow good tasting Hawaiian Lilikoi this year in my mild/cool subtropical location this year.  Not sure what that implies about other flavicarpas, but I'm going to try some of them next year (like the Panamas and Pandora).

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Passiflora similiar to P. ligularis
« on: December 23, 2014, 09:35:25 AM »
I've heard that P. pinnatistipula is relatively close to P. ligularis in flavor and grows well in cooler locations, at least here in California.  (The issue might be your hot summers, but perhaps you can keep it shaded?)  I haven't tried the fruit myself but hope to get some cuttings of it in a month.

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I'm hoping to plant out more Avocado seedlings as rootstock, but my source of Mexicola seedlings (relatives) has run out for the year and I haven't gotten a chance to plant too many yet.  Does anyone in California have any seeds from Mexicola or Zutano avocados to spare?

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Anyone have any Avocado seeds from Mexicola or Zutano to spare?  I couldn't get as many Mexicolas from a relative as I was hoping to, and would like to start a bunch more for rootstock.

732
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Zone Pushing the Sapote Family
« on: December 15, 2014, 11:19:52 PM »
Of these I'm only growing Sapodilla (seedling and Silas Wood) and a few White Sapotes, a couple of which are courtesy of you.  The White Sapotes have been great so far -- they've been pushing new growth well into the fall despite the cooler temperatures (and may still be now -- I have to go check).  I haven't been that disappointed by the Sapodillas' growth, though they do seem to get a bit nutrient deficient at times and I have to guess at how to get them healthy again.

There was discussion here about a Sapote del Monte (actually several varieties) and I hope to try that someday.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Misty Gem Passionfruit seeds?
« on: December 14, 2014, 12:52:29 PM »
Does anyone have any Misty Gem Passionfruit seeds, or know where to order some?  It's been a bit hard to find good ones -- I got some from Georgiavines, but they seem pretty old.  (I haven't given up yet, but I don't know if they're going to germinate.)

Thanks!

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Hmm -- I guess you're right that it doesn't sound like the trees grew that well in San Rafael.  I'm looking forward to seeing how the two Manila mangos I planted in the last year grow in the East Bay, and trying out Tim's new varieties here...

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There's someone who has fruited Glenn mangos in San Rafael with some simple winter protection (edit: she may not have protected the Glenn at all) -- here's a thread from Tammy at cloudforest:

http://www.cloudforest.com/cafe/forum/201074367.html

I've heard anecdotes of folks growing them in Fremont as well, though I don't have details (but then again Fremont has perhaps the best climate for subtropicals in the bay area, well minus the lack of rain).

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Interesting -- so his rootstock trees are actually airlayers from some new variety he bred?

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ricshaw -- thanks for that info.  I guess we'll just have to wait and see...

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I was in contact with her several months back but didn't quite get a sense of what their delays mean for the timeline.  It seems it would be more upfront if Tim could just provide updates to everyone at once rather than to each of us individually.  It'd be easier for him and easier for us.

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I've been a bit worried about the status of my order with Tim and hope he can start providing more regular updates on how things are progressing.

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Pancrazio -- maybe you could find someone who can mail you some Zutano seeds?  A lot of nurseries in Northern California use Zutano seedlings as rootstock and they seem to do well in our cold / wet winters.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Putting the Avocados Back in Containers
« on: December 01, 2014, 08:31:39 PM »
One other thought -- something that I think has worked well for the Avocado trees I've planted is to put down a heavy layer of tree trimming mulch underneath (though not touching the trunk), and then immediately inoculate that with Garden Giant (King Stropharia) mushroom spawn.  Usually the free tree trimmings around here is redwood and oak, which seems to work quite well.  (Basically put down the tree trimmings in a layer at least a foot deep, soak them like crazy, and then bury the mushroom spawn in little chunks about 6 inches deep.)  My theory on what's going on (though I have no idea) is that the mushroom spawn competes with more harmful fungi that might otherwise dominate, and of course the mulch keeps the roots cool and moist.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Putting the Avocados Back in Containers
« on: December 01, 2014, 06:13:56 PM »
I haven't had much luck with container avocado trees -- they really like to be in the ground.  The three things I've seen here that have killed or injured avocados are:

1. In-ground amendments -- when planting, don't amend the soil.  Instead, add the amendments above the soil and let them leach down.  When I've made the mistake of amending the planting hole, the amended soil becomes like an in-ground pot and doesn't allow water movement.

2. Sunburn -- I've been starting to paint my young trees with white latex paint to keep the bark healthy until they shade themselves.

3. Salt burn -- Irrigating the trees makes salt build up in the leaves and in extreme cases they go brown and drop.  I've found some soil sulfur plus less frequent / deeper watering helps fix this.  (Plus, my goal is with most of these trees to wean them off irrigation, so I think the deeper watering will help with that as well.)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Huge avocado tree - advice?
« on: November 24, 2014, 09:58:25 PM »
Ricshaw -- if you mean me, I never would suggest trimming an Avocado tree, but I love them a lot so that's just a personal bias.  But yeah, you can trim them back when they're big as long as you don't hack back any one part too much (which can lead to sunburn and worse) -- the flip side is that you don't get much out of trimming them back.  Even the tree I mentioned at my friend's place in San Francisco -- not a city where trees grow particularly fast -- seems to grow back in a year all that gets hacked off that year.  So it's a constant battle that on some level isn't worth fighting, especially with a tree that's so productive.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Huge avocado tree - advice?
« on: November 24, 2014, 09:45:54 PM »
My gut sense is that you probably don't need to do anything and the tree will continue producing just fine.  And slow / careful / incremental pruning should be just fine with a tree of that size / age -- a friend's (non-fruiting, seedling) Avocado in San Francisco of similar size gets hacked back pretty harshly every year by a pruning company and doesn't seem to mind.

They do like to have their own leaves as mulch under the base, so I wouldn't plant there.  But you should be fine as you move away from the base.

I'll send you a PM too -- I'd like to get some wood and try grafting locally.

745
Mike -- did you do a taste test of those new colorful passionfruits you showed in your most recent photo?  Also, any chance you'd be willing to send some African Gold seeds by mail for us to try here in California?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: New plantings have begun!
« on: November 24, 2014, 11:08:36 AM »
How have the Hawaiian avocado varieties done for you so far?  I've gotten some of them as well and will be trying them out here in California.  (Are those Hawaiian varieties common in Florida?  I assume not, but I have no idea.)

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Anyone have Gomera mango seeds?
« on: November 24, 2014, 10:56:56 AM »
msk -- Once it is summer, is there a source for Gomera seeds you'd recommend?

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Anyone have Gomera mango seeds?
« on: November 23, 2014, 07:22:26 PM »
After reading about several possible mango rootstocks that might do well in California, it seems that Gomera (either Gomera-1 or Gomera-3) are the best to use, but it's a hard tree to get a hold of.  I've been considering ordering from Canarius from the Canary Islands, but it's a bit of a complex and expensive process.

Does anyone have access to some Gomera seeds that they'd be willing to sell mail order?  Since they're polyembryonic, I assume getting 3-4 of them should be enough to be certain of getting at least 2-3 true Gomera trees.

Thanks!

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Grumichama seed?
« on: November 20, 2014, 08:53:19 PM »
Oscar -- great, thanks!

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bsbullie -- it's a container garden, so everything is in medium to large size plastic pots.  (Both the citrus and sapodilla have good drainage.)  Do you know of any broad spectrum micronutrient sources that are organic?

jcaldeira -- I'll see if it's phosphorus.  The weird part is that the leaves themselves are solid green -- it's just the edges and veins that are yellow.

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