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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: strawbs and chilli
« on: September 28, 2014, 12:29:53 PM »
Definitely grow strawbs in terracotta....will help the mix dry out quicker....avoid soggy roots......they need bigger pots.The pot in the middle looks healthy but i wouldnt share with another plant.....pot up again....i think you will find they are all rootbound......feed with seaweed when you transplant.
I use plastic pots here because it gets so bloody hot but in the uk(i was born in cardiff).....you get a lot of rain and it doesnt get that hot....so drainage and terracotta is better......drill extra drainage holes in pots with masonary bit....start with 4mm and work your way up bit by bit....If you go to big.....you will crack the pot. .....those plants look like they need bigger pots.
ref the chillis.......I have 15 different ones in pots........again move up in pot size as they get bigger.........i have some trinidad scorpion in a vert big pot......i have all the hot ones.......
when i grow a chilli tree......the goal is to form a Y  shape........as they grow i pinch off the odd leaf up the stem(encourages upward growth as does removing the laterals) and so when the Y has formed the stem below is bare.........i also remove all the laterals like you do with a tomatoe and focus on forming a  Y shape.........
There is a dood on e bay that sells strawberry food and chilli food........think its called "Chilli sense" and strawberry sense,,,,its cheap and good stuff....liquid......spray with warm water when flowering to encourage fruit set.........leave fruits on a long time to get strong and hot.....dont over water..me and the mrs eat them raw!..if you keep potting up ...you should look to end up in a 250 at least but prefreably a 300 mm pot..I had a tree in auckland in the ground for nearly 10 years.....monzo rocotto yellow..Good luck with your mangos!.......when you see roots coming out of the bottom of the pot....its time to go up a pot.....keep going up by 2 to 4 inch all around pot....until you reach 250 or 300.......I have 10 trees that have just broken into spring here....i prune pretty hard in winter.......either freeze or sun dry the pods in summer or eat raw.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re:strawbs
« on: September 28, 2014, 01:29:10 AM »
Dont know what happened there!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango growing first time, new member from UK
« on: September 28, 2014, 01:26:29 AM »
Nice one tim........I have been tryying to grow strawbs for a number of years now and i am slowly getting better at it!!! hahaha........here are a few things i have learnt the hard way....I too have grown the alpine ones because they stay white...so the birds dont eat them right?....here goes with what i have learnt
1. Dont over water them.........everywhere i have read they say the plants can survive on 1 inch of water a week......they tend to be shallow rooting.....They dont like having wet leaves either........what i found were symptoms of over watering
a) small tough fruit b) not sweet c) yellowing leaves with brown spots on them.
2.Space them apart at least 30 cm so air can circulate......use straw for strawbs to lie on........if in pots fruit can hang over the sides.
3.use organic feeds like seaweed/blood and bone/fish emulsion..................most fruit tastes better if fed organically.
4.Remove weeds from beds.
5.Pot up gradually in pots
6.water/feed from below in tray....that wway you dont wet the leaves or the fruit....if fruit stay wet for long periods they develop gundgy !!!
7.Dont feed while berries are ripening!...feed when berries are small.
8..Do not put ferts directly over the rootball.........put around the outer drip line and let the roots search out for the food.
9.Do not over feed.......occasionally a high nitrogen feed......you can also use yates flower and fruit.
10.Light waterings are better as roots are near surface....then feed with half strength solution....always make sure you water lightly before you water/feed to avoid burning roots.
           Its better to under water than over water and personally i prefer to grow in pots .....put organic dynamic lifter 1 inch below the surface(it stinks!) around the outside ring of the pot(away from the rootball)....that way every time they get water they get food..........i also use aa moisture meter and avoid them staying saturated.......if it rains.....that is the best water they can get(organic)....they will be greener for it.............Luckily for me....no birds eat them here but we get millions of snails!........
11.Dont pick to early!....the nitrogen feed can help the plants become stronger and fruits become bigger but potassium is important too.......wait for the strawbs to go dark red for optimum sweetness........net them with metal coat hanger cloche if birds are an issue....ants can drill holes too!.
12...In winter cut them down to just above their crowns.....covering them with straw until spring comes is an option too....they will be fine but expose them in late winter...
13.They like acid too....so a small amount of vinegar added to water sometimes can help..
14.....choose one way of feeding either the dynamic lifter under soil every 6 to 8 weeks or just liquid feed at half strength once a week when berries are small.
15.The more sun/heat the better....
16...If strawbs are typical of variety...are picked when deep red and have a small hollow cavity inside them/sweet.....you have done a great  job!....Good luck.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango growing first time, new member from UK
« on: September 28, 2014, 01:07:36 AM »
Nice one tim........I have been tryying to grow strawbs for a number of years now and i am slowly getting better at it!!! hahaha........here are a few things i have learnt the hard way....I too have grown the alpine ones because they stay white...so the birds dont eat them right?....here goes with what i have learnt
1. Dont over water them.........everywhere i have read they say the plants can survive on 1 inch of water a week......they tend to be shallow rooting.....They dont like having wet leaves either........what i found were symptoms of over watering
a) small tough fruit b) not sweet c) yellowing leaves with brown spots on them.
2.Space them apart at least 30 cm so air can circulate......use straw for strawbs to lie on........if in pots fruit can hang over the sides.
3.use organic feeds like seaweed/blood and bone/fish emulsion..................most fruit tastes better if fed organically.
4.Remove weeds from beds.
5.Pot up gradually in pots
6.water/feed from below in tray....that wway you dont wet the leaves or the fruit....if fruit stay wet for long periods they develop gundgy !!!
7.Dont feed while berries are ripening!...feed when berries are small.
8..Do not put ferts directly over the rootball.........put around the outer drip line and let the roots search out for the food.
9.Do not over feed.......occasionally a high nitrogen feed......you can also use yates flower and fruit.
10.Light waterings are better as roots are near surface....then feed with half strength solution....always make sure you water lightly before you water/feed to avoid burning roots.
           Its better to under water than over water and personally i prefer to grow in pots .....put organic dynamic lifter 1 inch below the surface(it stinks!) around the outside ring of the pot(away from the rootball)....that way every time they get water they get food..........i also use aa moisture meter and avoid them staying saturated.......if it rains.....that is the best water they can get(organic)....they will be greener for it.............Luckily for me....no birds eat them here but we get millions of snails!........
11.Dont pick to early!....the nitrogen feed can help the plants become stronger and fruits become bigger but potassium is important too.......wait for the strawbs to go dark red for optimum sweetness........net them with metal coat hanger cloche if birds are an issue....ants can drill holes too!.
12...In winter cut them down to just above their crowns.....covering them with straw until spring comes is an option too....they will be fine but expose them in late winter...
13.They like acid too....so a small amount of vinegar added to water sometimes can help..
14.....choose one way of feeding either the dynamic lifter under soil every 6 to 8 weeks or just liquid feed at half strength once a week when berries are small.
15.The more sun/heat the better....
16...If strawbs are typical of variety...are picked when deep red and have a small hollow cavity inside them and are sweet.....you have done a great  job!..I have 33 plants........so try to have at least 10 if its just for you ....25 at least for a family.....Good luck.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: SorryI have not beeen on lately
« on: September 28, 2014, 12:42:13 AM »
Just read this.......Get well Millet........Hope you heal up well and will be back doing what you love to do asap........Cheers Jon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango growing first time, new member from UK
« on: September 22, 2014, 10:04:47 AM »
The advice to step up gradually in pot size makes perfect sense now you have explained it, and will work out cheaper in the short term too. The trees will also be much easier to move around if they are in in smaller pots for their early life.
This is good for most trees but especially citrus.......i killed many trees by making the mistake of putting in too big a pot for the size of the rootball.....what happens is the water around the outside of the pot never gets used by the plant....becomes stagnant and then the mix compacts .....the roots are then starved of oxygen and root rot sets in........a citrus only needs 24 to 48 hours of saturation before it becomes starved of oxygen.
A good general rule is to pot up a pot that is 2 to 4 inches bigger all round than the rootball.........tease the outside roots out to encourage the roots out and then here is the best bit.......put some fert one inch under the surface around the outside of the pot and not directly over the top of the rootball......then cover with mix......I use yates dynamic lifter for fruit.................this has several advantages.......1.It wont burn the roots because it doesnt go down over them....2 it encourages the roots to grow out in search of nutrients.......pot up each  later winter.......I do this with everything in pots eg strawberries/mango/15 different citrus/dwarf nectarine/paw paw..................its acts as a slow release fert and lasts 6 to 8 weeks......i only do when active growth is present........my strawbs grow better in pots than they do in the ground................for all my trees in pots ...i drill heaps of 8mm holes for drainage and then put onion sack mesh at bottom of pot to stop mix leaching out.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango growing first time, new member from UK
« on: September 21, 2014, 08:49:34 AM »
I have two mangos growing in pots here in Perth western Australia....Mangos have a long tap root ....so while i agree potting up in stages is good to avoid root rot......if it becomes root bound it will flower early......which is not what you want.......Both my trees are 1.5 metre tall and both threw out lots of flowers........I removed them all and sniped the growing tips......this will encourage top growth and bushing.......then next year i will allow a few fruits to form.......the following year it can do what it wants.......as with all fruit trees .....it pays to remove fruits in the early years to help the plant establish a strong canopy.....Your goal should be to develop a large canopy to support some fruit......Buying a grafted specimen will result in success within two to three years if optimal conditions are met........same goes for citrus.......its a strain for the plant to produce fruit in its early years and although the temptation is huge.......REMOVE.......your tree will like you for it.........I have seen two dwarf citrus of the same size grown in pots....one had fruits removed and the other didnt........the difference in growth was phenomenal.
Fish emulsion is the best food for mangos but try to keep the mix on the dry side(always water first/then water/feed solution after)...As much sun as possible..keep out of the rain in winter time..Good luck.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: yellow leaf off my okitsu mandarin
« on: September 21, 2014, 05:20:12 AM »
Thats good then..............all my other citrus have put out new growth (spring) but this tree has done nothing but the leaves look greener.

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Citrus General Discussion / yellow leaf off my okitsu mandarin
« on: September 08, 2014, 09:57:39 PM »
This has to be one of the yellowest leaves i have ever had off any of my citrus.....pretty impressive !


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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Don't do what i did.!!!!
« on: September 08, 2014, 06:13:08 AM »
Bees and GA3 both will set fruit on a Page tree. The difference between the two is that bees actually pollinate the tree by cross pollinating the flowers with pollen from a neighboring tree. Therefore since pollen is used the Page fruit will have seeds.  GA3 also sets the bloom, but without pollen, and a non-pollinated flower will be seedless. - Millet

This stuff is quoted as containing natural growth promotants  eg gillberines(spelt wrong).........is this the same stuff as GA3?.......therefore foliar feed the blooms and get the same efffect?
http://www.easygrow.co.nz/soil-nutrients/188-nitrosol-1l.html

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Don't do what i did.!!!!
« on: September 08, 2014, 03:51:08 AM »
I had 4  bi sexual paw paws going in pots but they all dropped their leaves and died.......I suspect from root rot like you said millet.........so water with warm water then is it millet.........i would have thought  water rarely......as they frow in sand in places like fiji and get very little water........what about feeding? cheers Jon

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Citrus General Discussion / Sheep manure tea
« on: September 02, 2014, 12:32:10 PM »
I was thinking of putting some sheep manure pellets in a jug of water and leaving for a week and then applying as a tonic to my container citrus........Could it pose any problems for my trees at all?
I used to do that with chicken manure for my tomatoes in the ground and they went nuts!........Thanks Jon

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Hydrogen Peroxide
« on: August 24, 2014, 09:26:12 AM »
I have tried the hydrogen peroxide on two of my trees with a small amount of rooting powder........I know one of them had mushy roots before i transplanted....i have taken pics today.....they both look half gone but they are still green and they are in a good mix.......I will report back in a month or so with any news.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: True Or False
« on: August 24, 2014, 09:15:01 AM »
I always go for "Big is good" for any fruit.......if mandarins have a massive dimple in the middle/and the deeper it goes.......i will buy them.........my mrs will often pick mandarins in the store and the ones i pick always test better than what she picks.....I go for deep orange and big and especially US washington navel(they are the best orange thats imported to the southern hemisphere.)

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Leaves curling on two of my mandarins
« on: August 23, 2014, 10:51:04 PM »
Thank you sir! 8).....i suppose these older leaves will drop and the new growth is coming through........will pay more attention to feeding correctly. ........all my citrus are putting out spring growth....except for my okitsu....which has had those yellow leaves near the bottom.......i have flushed it and fed it......the top leaves have gone a bit greener as a result but she still seems to stay dormant......any theories?
Are okitsu a troublesome variety !!! Hahaha.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Leaves curling on two of my mandarins
« on: August 23, 2014, 12:57:49 PM »
okitsu with yellow leaves and still dormant.


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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Leaves curling on two of my mandarins
« on: August 23, 2014, 12:50:48 PM »
first 3 pics are of trees ...last one is of navelina going well.....photos taken at night with flash.












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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Leaves curling on two of my mandarins
« on: August 23, 2014, 10:56:10 AM »
Its not the edges millet......the whole leaf is rolled under so to speak.......and plenty of them.......they look dark green but rolled like a piece of ham on a coctail stick!.............I will try to take a pic.......leaves are not limp.

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Citrus General Discussion / Leaves curling on two of my mandarins
« on: August 22, 2014, 12:04:56 PM »
Hi everyone....all  my citrus are busy putting out new growth now......but two of my mandarins have curling leaves......they are last years leaves and they are putting out healthy new growth.......when i say curling....I do not mean "cupping"............they are curling back under themselves...........any idea what is causing that please?...........all my other trees are fine......except my okitsu which has yellow lower leaves and is still dormant.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: yellowing leaves
« on: July 18, 2014, 04:18:24 AM »
Thanks Guys......will give it a good flush then................I am probably a bit careful with my watering as i killed many trees in Auckland from wet feet but here come summer time.....it will be in the 30's C and sometimes 40C+........Top temp at the moment is 18-20C daytime.......cheers Jon

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Chas's Citrus Collection
« on: July 17, 2014, 04:10:12 AM »
Awesome plants.....so whats your secret chas? Please share your "Care" management.......Do you work?or maybe you sell these is it?  because with all that lot.....I dont think i could work or even get any sleep!!!! an inspiration to everyone......well done.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: yellowing leaves
« on: July 17, 2014, 03:59:38 AM »
Hi Chas....Thanks for that......I havent been feeding it at all mind...I have had probs with slow release stuff on some of my other trees before......Does it need a good flush with pure water then?...Thanks

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Citrus General Discussion / yellowing leaves
« on: July 17, 2014, 01:05:28 AM »
Hi.....I bought an okitsu mandarin....it looked a little pale when i bought with a few yellowing leaves.......i transplanted into a better sized pot and its been dormant since......the leaf yellowing has become a little worse but not serious i feel....
I have kept the mix dry to medium..........i thought it could be an iron or mg deficiency....so applied some epsom salts and gave it an iron tonic....I have not fed it since i transplanted it......
It winter now so i figured the problem could be one of these
1.Too wet
2.lack of mg
3.lack of iron
4,The cold...its winter now and my lemons go a bit yellow too.
5.Lack of nitrogen.....
I am leaning towards no 5 now.......any thoughts please?
p,s I have just transplanted most of my trees ready for spring flush in mid august........so i am really looking forward to seeing how they go.















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