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Citrus General Discussion / My dwarf Citrus in pots
« on: February 07, 2016, 12:12:14 PM »
mandarin =imperial/japanese seedless/emperor
navel orange
tangelo
lime
custard apple                        all dwarfs except the custard apple............going well despite the 40C heat



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Citrus General Discussion / Re: New Mandarin Questions
« on: January 29, 2016, 01:39:07 PM »
i read somewhere that citrus need to go down below 10C during winter to help the acid in citrus convert to sugars....hence places like fiji etc who never go below that ...are not suitable for ripening citrus fruits........I am sure i am right but sure if someone know more.......they will chip in....ideal is hot summers and cold winters and that is why the US grows the best washington navels i reckon....very sweet...........I am always on the look out for them.....when i know its winter time in the U S.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Leaf yellowing
« on: January 29, 2016, 01:27:26 PM »
Thanks millet.........temps go below the magic 10C in winter ....cold enough to help with the ripening process........just the sun is very evil in the summer with temps in the mic 30C and sometimes 40C odd.......I dont leave my trees in all day sun or they just get cooked....I have a few in the ground that are going ok.......heavily mulched but most are still in pots and are dwarfs.....have found that citrus often drop a few leaves ...just before they do a growth spurt.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Leaf yellowing
« on: January 27, 2016, 11:28:27 PM »
thanks for both your replies.....Its very hot here at the moment.......i havent over watered.....when i bought it....it was root bound and would dry out very quick........its a pipsqueak model haha........they are very dwarfing.......so i potted up straight away and didnt add any fert to the  potting mix........kept it in the shade for a week to get used to things and now water when it gets down to moist on my moisture meter.........Just a few days ago i put a small amount of dynofert for citrus sprinkled around the top away from the trunk.......not much and then applied lucerne to keep the roots cool(away from the trunk) and supply further nutrients all slow release.........its noticeable its happening on the lower leaves of the plant..............so millet .....you reckon .....dont worry about it...is it ? Thanks
Dimplest....I dont leave the pots on concrete......most are on inverted saucers or pot feet.......Good point about leaving the water ....i do that too but i dont think i have left it that long....i know chlorine evaporates quite quickly but dont know about the flouride but i will leave it in my watering can longer from now on then.

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Citrus General Discussion / Leaf yellowing
« on: January 27, 2016, 07:16:21 AM »
Hi.....Dont know what is going on here.......basically its a dwarf imperial mandarin....it came in a 150 size pot....was root bound so i immediately transplanted into a 200 mm pot and gave it some seasol(seaweed solution) and kept it in the shade for a week..........have since kept it in morning sun.....mulched with Lucerne and keep it moist but not wet...have put some slow release organic fert on top of soil......I live in Perth western australia......temps range from 23 to 36C ........at a loss as to why the leaves are going yellow like this........i didnt disturb the roots much when i transplanted...I have checked webpage for deficiencies and cant find anything....any thoughts please?


















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yeah...Pretty much Millet ;)

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: limiting tree size
« on: July 07, 2015, 11:11:27 AM »
My tentative plan is to lop off one major limb per year.  I'm not sure how well it will work.

that is a pretty common pruning practice with apple trees.  Any limb 1/3 or larger than the trunk gets pruned. Not sure how well it will work with citrus. You could be the first person to actually compare apples to oranges. :P  I dont know if I would remove whole limbs as much as I would just keep the overall canopy at a certain size.  Im about in the same situation you are as mine are in 15 and 20 gallon pots now and getting heavy.

I was reading  an article about growing citrus in pure perlite in isreal.........they use coarse on the bottom and then finer stuff for the growing part........no mix of any kind.......it cuts down on the weight........you could remove a lot of the mix and go heavy on the perlite with new potting mix and that would bring the weight right down and make your pots easier to move.........I will see if i can find that link as it makes for fascinating reading.....how they have these big citrus growing in big see through pots but without thee weight.
Here you go......have a read
http://www.schundler.com/israel.htm

If i am feeling brave i might give this a go with a dwarf Citrus tree using a plastic pot.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: limiting tree size
« on: July 07, 2015, 11:01:54 AM »
I read somewhere that it is good to root prune every 3 years with a bread knife 2 to 3 inches all around the rootball.....remove any dead looking roots.....then refresh with new medium and trim top a bit as well........then dont feed until you see new growth.................when i transplant now....I dont feed at all when i transplant(except seasol to give roots a boost) and then feed 4 to 6 weeks later...
I have just transplanted a lot of my trees into bigger pots at the end of June.......we have July left and then spring will start mi
d august........I will begin my feeding program mid august....so all my transplants have had 6 weeks to settle in through winter( we are talking australia here).......I have done this with all my citrus...both in pots and inground..I try to form 4 or 5 main branches for each tree and open up the middle to let light and air in.......Hopefully this year i will be able to share some successful photos.....my strawbs and chillis in pots have also been transplanted like that.....a few of my citrus are putting out new growth....even now........temps vary from 19C to 23C winter highs but its raining nearly every day at the moment in Perth.
Nice looking tree dood  ;)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Feijoa
« on: July 07, 2015, 10:47:47 AM »
I dont know where i got this idea from but here goes= I bought a feijoa tree(Pineapple guava) the other day and it had two other large branches.....so i decided to try to grow roots from these two branches while still on the tree.......i scrapped the bark off....put some rooting gel on them and then surrounded them with soil and then cling filmed it as per pic................I am hoping i will see some roots appear through the film(given time)....................am i dreaming or is what i am up to possible? Cheers Jon



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well i have killed plenty of trees in pots from over watering and i have tried all sorts of mixes........leaves fall off and then twig die back...
the first big mistake i made was transplanting into too big a pot ...so a lot of the mix remained wet fro where the roots never lived.......in auckland i had success growing in terracotta ...so the roots could breathe.........i also added coarse pummice......and it worked well in auckland.
    In aussie where it gets really hot...I now use plastic pots.......pot and tub mix and add washed river sand(coarse) and perlite to that and that seems to stop the mix compacting/slumping and provides excellent drainage..........I find if the water doesnt pass through the mix quickly.......something is wrong............I killed over 10 trees before i got anywhere....all from mixes staying wet for more than 24 hours at a time ....sometimes longer.......a water meter has helped me control the urge to water......last year i was an over feeder !!! ;D

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Maturity of Citrus Fruit
« on: May 19, 2015, 11:31:16 AM »
I read somewhere the other day....that giving epsom salts when the fruit is ripening increases its sweetness.......Any truth in that Millet?

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Citrus General Discussion / Container mix
« on: May 07, 2015, 12:17:31 PM »
I am looking to pot up some young dwarf citrus.......was thinking of mixing premium potting mix with coarse grit(washed river sand)..........Is this a good idea for dwarf citrus?
I cant remember what was the ideal mix but i remember when Coconut husk chips were all the rage.........what are you guys using for your container trees please?

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Soluble Fertilizer(which is best)
« on: April 17, 2015, 10:52:46 AM »
Just an update....I fed all my trees two days ago with the "Fruit and Citrus food"...................some are already putting out autumn new growth and some were not doing anything........90 % of my trees are in pots and i have a few in the ground.............the ones with new growth evident have really gone for it and all the trees that have nothing are showing signs of break out,,,,,,,so that stuff definitely went down well...................I have written to the manufacturer to ask about the beuret content but have heard nothing back yet.......I knew there was some reason that nitrate and ammonia were the prefered forms of nitrogen for container trees....................will update in one week.
CITRANGE....had a read of that link about citrus deficencies( cant spell) and it made interesting reading ;)

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Soluble Fertilizer(which is best)
« on: April 16, 2015, 06:46:53 AM »
I know yates thrive quote the  biuret level......I will contact the manufacturer pf this fruit and citrus and ask them.......but they mention that it is low in salts and less likely to burn........I will see if i can find their quote.....................so do you think the african violet is a better option?
I have trace elements from these people as well but i fed all my trees with the fruit and citrus ...my mangos as well....today.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Soluble Fertilizer(which is best)
« on: April 10, 2015, 11:26:53 PM »
Thank you Sir Millet !....hopefully i can post the results in time ;D

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Grasshoppers
« on: April 10, 2015, 11:26:03 PM »
I thought so........there were holes in the leaves of my meyer lemon and other trees too.......thanks.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Soluble Fertilizer(which is best)
« on: April 10, 2015, 10:31:45 AM »
Thanks millet.......I remember the NPK 5...1..3 rule from years back from you............i was sure you didnt like urea for some reason?.......other forms of nitrogen were prefered .......maybe urea was slower to become available...i dont know.
I just read another blog where you made a comment and you advised not to feed with higher than 8..8..8  for young trees.
The fruit and citrus food above does give very clear instructions for the correct amounts of the fert in relation  to the age of the tree....which i think is very good.....thats on the side of the pack......Certainly the fruit and citrus is extremely close to the 5.1.3 NPK ratio   with an NPK of 25.4.15 plus trace elements.....thats what attracted me to it.

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Citrus General Discussion / Grasshoppers
« on: April 10, 2015, 10:28:33 AM »
Do grasshoppers eat the leaves of Citrus? ......I have been finding a few on my plants and i am suspicious of them feeding on the leaves.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Soluble Fertilizer(which is best)
« on: April 10, 2015, 06:53:19 AM »
Nobody has  an opinion? thats unusual on here !

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11 truck loads worth is hardly "taking a few oranges".................taking a few oranges is a couple of 7 year old boys ....jumping over the fence and taking 4 or 5 .............at 81 he should know better.......stick him in jail. and feed him on the oranges that he stole for the term of his sentence.....I bet that would put him off stealing them again.

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Wow........Going to all that trouble at 81.......why bother?

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Citrus General Discussion / Soluble Fertilizer(which is best)
« on: April 09, 2015, 12:14:29 AM »
From what i have learnt on here....for some reason i believe nitrogen in the form of nitrates or ammonium are better for potted citrus than urea........I dont know why but i am sure i read that here..........which of these would suit my small dwarf citrus in pots please?
 First one is an African violet plant food that i thought was perfect.......the highlighted yellow are the specs for where i am.
The other one  is specific to citrus but most nitrogen comes from urea(which i thought would be better for inground plants)........................Millet = come in /over !!!!!!!....your der man to answer this please.
















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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Carl E . Whitcomb, Ph.D. Top 10 List
« on: April 03, 2015, 08:58:58 AM »
Ref no 10........i just liquid fed my japanese seedless mandarin and havent noticed any increase in new leaves/size but i noticed an almost instant increase in the size of the fruit.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Growing Trees Without Staking
« on: April 03, 2015, 08:51:50 AM »
Fantastic information there Millet........unfortunately a lot of my trees are staked......Can it be corrected ?

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Then you have the bio flavanoids contained in the pith of oranges and mandarins....which have their own individual powerful function....even  the skin has unique properties......like the zest of a lemon for example........
All i know.........is you just cant beat a washington navel from florida  i believe? ........I ate one today but i get some strange looks  when i peel it........I roll it around in my hands for a good minute.........this loosens the skin and makes it easy to peel..........then if my son(9 year old) is lucky to be around me....he gets half ....if not.....i woof the lot to myself.........No other orange comes close to usa washington navels.IMHO.

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