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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Eugenia cereja
« on: August 20, 2016, 09:19:44 AM »
Thanks Luisport,
I thought serra was Spanish and cerra was Portuguese. Anyway, that is how Helton wrote it.

But when I looked up cerro on Pt wiki, it said it means a "small hill"; synonymous with colina and morro. https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morro

Mountain would be "montanha".

Also, cerra is plural, right?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Eugenia cereja
« on: August 20, 2016, 08:38:57 AM »
They look slightly larger than an inch from the photo I've seen.

If there are any Portuguese speakers out there, how would you translate the common name 'Cereja da cerra'?

BTW I'm after seeds of this species.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Plants for sale
« on: August 17, 2016, 03:32:25 AM »
Nice plants Ondrej.

It would be a good idea to rename the thread title: Plants for sale (EU), that way most of the forum knows not to get their hopes up.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Inga Vulpina
« on: August 14, 2016, 10:07:01 PM »
The good species of Inga like edulis and mortontonia grow to very large sizes, so this could potentially be used as a dwarfing rootstock. Or just as an ornamental in its own right.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Flying Fox Fruits Nursery
« on: August 10, 2016, 06:30:22 AM »
Hey Adam,

I wanted to get your opinion: What are the most heat tolerant / sun tolerant Eugenias and Garcinias?

Thanks man!
I know I'm not Adam, but I would say that the most heat/sun tolerant Eugenias are: Dune Myrtle (E. capensis), Cedar Bay cherry (E. reinwardtiana), Pitanga-peba (E. pitanga), Mattos cherry (E. mattosii), Cerrado cherry (E. calycina), Pitanga-tuba (E. selloi) & Suriname cherry (E. uniflora).

Don't know much about Garcinia, but I imagine Luc's/Mexican garcinia would be up there, with the added advantage of cold tolerance.

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A Peruvian guy a few weeks ago uploaded a video on Bunchosia Armeniaca. As you will observe, the leaves do not have wavy edges, but are long and flat. This is correct ID

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKCPHzSyz0s

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pitomba, it makes me confused!
« on: July 31, 2016, 01:25:30 AM »
It would have been good if the English name was adopted from the Spanish name: 'cotopalo'. And that easily could of happened since Talisia esculenta is native to Colombia, Peru, Paraguay and Bolivia.

The other thing that seems to have been confused is taste. I've read descriptions of a dried apricot flavor for both species, which seems like a mistake.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pitomba, it makes me confused!
« on: July 29, 2016, 08:21:02 AM »
Eugenia Luschnathiana in Portuguese is known as pitomba-da-baia or curuiri. The second name is a mouthful. The first could be translated as Bay Pitomba or Bahia pitomba. But seeing as this species is already established and more popular outside of Brazil, it will be the default 'pitomba'.

Talisia esculenta is indeed a soapberry and is the pitomba in Brazil, but also has some other names, including pitombo, Olho-de-boi (bull's eye) and pitomba-de-macaco (monkey pitomba). In Brazil, there is a phrase to insult someone: "You're not worth a pitomba" because the fruit is a small thing, but it makes me wonder whether it is as nice tasting as a lychee if they are using it as a slur.

I hate the notion of similar names for fruit that are quite divergent taxonomy-wise. Of course the Tupi natives were a bit more pragmatic and looked at properties of appearance and palatability. I like the name Bull's eye, it complements Dragon's eye well (otherwise known as Longyan)

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People, he edits and updates the opening post at the start of the thread.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sweet Tart Mango
« on: July 21, 2016, 10:58:34 PM »
Someone recently uploaded a video of a Sweet Tart: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pPd4Nmq2NU

Would be good to update info in the Ultimate Mango List: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1T5yroo6oqvsERObsP-LtgS_zX43TkEMcqtf4_CajGGE/edit#gid=0

Hoping it is polyembryonic.

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Check out this variety with black calyxes being sold as grumichama: http://www.safarigarden.com.br/muda-de-grumixama
Reminds me of E. itaguahiensis.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Native tree Eugenia Florida
« on: July 08, 2016, 06:09:28 AM »
This species will increase in popularity I think, which makes me wonder about its common name.

The full Brazilian name is 'guamirim cereja' although most people on this forum seem to shorten it to just 'guamirim' - which is actually a name used for multiple different fruits.

Typing in E. florida is already tripping up search functions seeing as most results are for the state of Florida.

Is it just me or does the fruit resemble E. candolleana (Rainforest Plum)? Maybe this could be its close cousin Rainforest Cherry.  ;)

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Seeds Of Honeysuckle.Exchange.
« on: July 07, 2016, 04:56:08 AM »
Can you be a bit clearer on which seeds you are offering and which seeds you want? It seems as though the photos you posted are of the varieties you already have.

Do you know what variety is the best suited to a warm climate? They really are sensitive to warmth even in a temperate climate. They won't even fruit in Southern Japan I've heard.

By the way, there is a Buy and Sell board for "temperate" fruits.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: cold hardy Artocarpus ?
« on: June 25, 2016, 08:38:41 PM »
Kwai Muk is from China and is certainly the most cold hardy Artocarpus.

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Actually joehewitt, I'm not sure about the middle bunchosia in your image, since I though argentea was only supposed to be silvery on the underside. Unless your image is indeed argentea which has silver all over new growth. Please update when it has mature leaves.

Personally I've never grown this genus because I am in a temperate climate and also want to get the best tasting cold tolerant one. I think Helton once told me B. maritima is the best.

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I would agree with your assumptions and add that I think the bottom one is armeniaca. But taxonomists are currently working on this very genus and should have confirmation this year from them.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help identify.
« on: June 19, 2016, 06:35:19 AM »
On the hosting site underneath the photo it says rollinia sp 'panda'

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Wanted: Po Pyu Kalay seed
« on: June 14, 2016, 10:24:08 PM »
[Edit] Pina Colada and Coconut Cream, even though these are Monoembryonics.

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Unable to find any data on roughly how many chill hours this species needs for proper flowering and fruiting.

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@Oscar Black and Purple Grumichamas not the same variety. The only difference to my eye seems to be that the Black variety has green calyxes while the purple variety has purple calyxes. This would actually make your variety the black one, but it seems there is a lot of fluidity between these 'varieties'. Surprised to hear Miguel talk of drastic height differences.

Helton has pics and names of three varieties: http://www.colecionandofrutas.org/eugeniabrasili.htm but there are certainly more. He confirmed to me that the red variety 'erythrocarpa' is a variety that came from the purple 'erythrocarpus'. Moreover, there is a bright yellow one 'leucocarpus' as well as a dark yellow (amber) colored one. Not sure if this is the same as the orange variety.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Flying Fox Fruits Nursery
« on: June 07, 2016, 03:52:35 AM »
Er, which Lord are you referring to? I always assumed you were Jewish. Unless you are trolling with that poster.  ;)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is this myrtle rust?
« on: May 26, 2016, 05:44:17 AM »
Thanks Oscar.

I guess the next questions are, what is it and should I remove the leaves.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Is this myrtle rust?
« on: May 26, 2016, 04:54:31 AM »






Small number of affected leaves on feijoa and pitomba.

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Who is growing the large fruited form and can supply seeds in the near future?

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Known as jabuticaba-coroada-da-restinga.

On E-Jardim website says grows 2-3m but photo is of much bigger tree.

http://e-jardim.com/produto_completo.asp?IDProduto=302

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