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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mystery Garcinia from southern Brazil
« on: November 14, 2017, 06:37:38 PM »
It is 3.5 years old and had a generous regime of fertiliser application with lots of micros and potash as it is on the Salleras farm. I have not seen the tree in fruit was told they are a little larger than achachairus and a little sweeter. The photo makes it look smaller than that species. I recall receiving a selection of this species which allegedly was sweeter than most.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mystery Garcinia from southern Brazil
« on: November 13, 2017, 08:08:41 AM »
It just dawned on me that bucupari is G.gardneriana.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Mystery Garcinia from southern Brazil
« on: November 13, 2017, 08:06:14 AM »
Between 2 and 4 years ago I received many Brazilian Garcinias which I spread around and surprisingly some are starting to fruit already.The label of this one was transposed incorrectly and its identity is unknown.It is larger than achachairu and sweeter and from what I am told it is better quality.Can anyone positively identify it?


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I see Achronychias in the bush around my place at times and they are common on the adjacent tablelands. The citrus smell and taste is a bit over the top and Backhousias  are pretty strong as well.There should be no problem sending seeds overseas.There are about 40 or 50 local Syzygiums and cormiflora is one that gets festooned on the trunk. Some have big fruit and the lady apple S.suborbiculare is pretty good to eat but most are sour.Look at the pics of S.erythrocalyx I posted previously but they are sour.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: On a unknown fruit pursuit! 😄
« on: November 12, 2017, 09:59:19 PM »
You would know pandanus and there are 10 or 11 species in my area and they all have the pineapple top on a big scale.Their relatives like freycinetia are mostly scrambling vines with red fruit.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Pomelo - citrus maxima strange leaves
« on: November 12, 2017, 07:35:42 PM »
They have a long season in my climate and the flower show can be impressive. The size is not well reflected in the pictures. My tree struggled with twisted leaves and being root bound from being too long in the pot just as the subject of this thread indicates. My message is hang in there and it may come good.

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There are only a few confirmed trees of each and no plans for wider production. They are heavy bearers with the juicy pearl being a small tree and the other two being standard large starapple trees. Alva and DPI Gold are as good as each other in quality with low latex and high quality. Juicy pearl is just different but nice but is quite milky and the latex is not tenacious. Most juicy pearls are 150g to 250g with some more than 350g and they are flattened on the poles.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: On a unknown fruit pursuit! 😄
« on: November 12, 2017, 01:50:29 AM »
Good luck with the fruit safari and the hombres amigo. Hopefully you'll be riding high in the saddle with a full bounty coming home.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Pomelo - citrus maxima strange leaves
« on: November 12, 2017, 01:30:35 AM »



My Carters Red was root bound and struggling at first after being in a pot too long. Here are some fruit on it one hour ago. They are such vigorous trees and can grow through it. I fertilised mine from a young age with mg,zn and bo as well as NPK and it responded immediately.

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Another season passes and once again I am eating a few starapples. Just as a reminder the DPI Gold and Alva are known as gold or pink  starapples which are much rarer thgan the purples and greens as well as being larger and sweeter. Sometimes they reach 1kg.




The juicy pearls have a single seed are apparently the same species and perhaps subspecies as what Oscar has in Hawaii and are lovely to eat. They appear to be Chrysophyllum argenteum subsp. auratum.
 



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I am prett6 sure E.calycina is it.Have a look at the fruit on my pyriformis x lutescens.


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Heya Starling it has been a while and yes it is a large one alright and better to show the cream of the crop than a brumby.Ethan is has been a while since we chatted also.Ok prickly one the sabara and grimal are really good and that is why they are popular. Grimal are much bigger but not as sweet as sabara.The fruit of escarletter is sweeter than all others and intermediate between sabara and grimal in size and thinner skinned than both. The red hybrid has sabara sized fruit equally as sweet bit a different taste.Escarlette wins a face off on fruit quality in my eyes and the other 3 are close to equivalent but it is subjective. The two dwarfs fruiting at under 3 years old and 3 feet high are more prized in my eyes.

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Thanks for a go at identifying it.I didn't receive E.calycina unless the seeds were mislabelled and maybe I missed up the tags myself as unlikely as that seems. A goose incident a few years ago where the bird got into the forbidden zone and pulled all the tags out of pots could have been the event that resulted in the present confusion. That goose volunteered for K.P. that year.

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I probably should have mentioned that my Eugenia pitanga has fruit that will be ripe soon and my pyriformis x lutescens has fruit set also. I am optimistic about their quality as the solitary lutescens fruit I tried was the best Eugenia I have ever eaten and better than candolleana which also has flowers by the way.

Whaile it is not a Myrtaceae and since we are talking Brazil I thought you might like a sticky beak at the Pandora passionfruit which was bred from panama red and no doubt represents the pinnacle of passionfruit improvement and development being supersweet and richly flavoured. Even the misty gem edulis pales next to the finest flavicarpas and this one eclipses panama yellow and even African gold in the quality stakes.



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Pitangatubas are producing well at the moment and my orange E.uniflora (not standard) are also producing. The jaboticabas are a mix of escarlette  and red dwarf hybrid (thanks Oscar).


Now that I have your attention the real reason for this thread is to find out the identity of the fruit below.It was labelled as Campomanesia pubescens but this doesn't seem right.I gave it to my brother and it is a small plant. My Cherries of rio grande got chopped down in my yard as they were too big and unproductive.I figure my climate is too warm for them to bear. My Eugenia cerejas suffered a similar fate in my yard as they grew too big and crowded out other plants without fruiting. It is neither of these.



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Any information on soncoya???
« on: November 05, 2017, 03:13:41 AM »
Friends of mine who tried a few while tripping in central America were of the view that they were not as good as ilama and the flesh yield was low. I don't know how good quality the ones they tried were.

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Only Bali is a mono and it is not even an official subspecies of S.zalacca which is one of over 20 species. Sometimes published as one with the 20 or so names types of Balis as subordinate variety names. S.affinis is sweet sour and the 3rd best species and is certainly better than quite a few varieties of wallichiana and zalacca. To re-iterate, there is no such thing as S.edulis and it seems to be a phantom name.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jackfruit weird leaves shape
« on: November 01, 2017, 11:43:54 PM »
Looks quite heterophyllous.

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Yes they are tillering palms but can be kept upright with staking. Removing suckers is best as a gradual process with a separation cut some time before the final digging out.

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Sunny taste is subjective and there are a few that are agreeable to my palate.I meant gula pasir with brown sugar qualities is best, boni with red streaks through the flesh deserves an honourable mention and nana is good. I meant one other besides the two I mentioned.
Sahail yes the fruit from mine is as good.

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Let me tell you an abridged version of my salak adventure. I went to Thailand and researched the sala visited the farms and ate salas until they came out of my ears, until I was spray painting porcelain. Yes I thought I need to grow sumalee and a few nern wong and I dutifully collected 100s of seeds from 3 loculed fruit to make sure I got more females. The multi kilo seed booty got seized when I came back to Australia even though they were permitted entry. That is a whole other tale of incompetence colliding with laziness(not mine) and my seeds being the casualties.
Friends visiting Thailand collected more seeds for me in subsequent years but my pre trip lecture about the 3 locules and varieties took the sting out of their enthusiasm. I grew 14 salas from these in my yard, about 8 sumalee,5 noen wong and 1 moh.13 have turned into massive males that I am hacking out and my one female sumalee has had fruit a few times.I will leave one male.
I have tried a few zalaccas and quite a few balis in particular and read all the info I could get. Have a look at the thesis John from Hawaii posted in the library in this forum on bali salak varieties. Pondoh doesn't impress me so planted gula pasir and boni (thanks Micah) and they are too young to fruit yet. I know there is another good Bali out of the 20 or so but we wont get into that.
I am sure there is a moral to tis story but it eludes me. 

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In the book stores there are small soft handbooks for farmers on durian, longkong etc including salaks and they go into detail of how to propagate, varieties,growing them and more. Find those and you will be surprised how much good information is in them.
I tried them all and came to my own conclusions and visited a couple of farms also.

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Real sumalee are not usually smaller nern wong from my recollection.

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S.affinis is from the Malay peninsula and yes fruit are elongate red and smooth. They are sourer with less flesh than sala.I doubt you will see them much in Thailand.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: More Maui progress with Luc's garcinia
« on: October 29, 2017, 08:29:59 AM »
My 8 foot 5 year old tree has not flowered. In contrast my 3 foot 3 year old one produced flowers a few months ago but none set.It looked way too small to open its account.

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