C'mon fruitlover  we pay the pollies truffles and we get pigs.Borneo is just a hangover from the peninsula and part of 'sunda'.Have a look at that definitive Am. Journ. of Bot. 2009 paper and follow the references and all will be revealed.

That is kinda true fruitlover but the initial statement and logic had a few holes and the figures were unsupportive so it was open for bending towards my opinion.It would be interesting to look at a few scientific papers and resolve and the origin and diversity question.

Fruitlover the supermarkets and roadside markets selling sala usually are flogging sala moh and sala sane'.While they can look similar to the real deal, with loose skin and even a bit of a point these pretenders are higher in acid.i would put them on par with the lowland bali 'pineapple core' types.

Tropicdude you are right and mango trees are on every street and in every yard.I kinda forgot the point of the discussion.Even if the species was domesticated in northern thailand,the malay peninsula is the centre of diversity and thailand has more consumption per capita......so what.It all proabaly happened at the same time in India and they are just as important there.They are the national fruit of the phillipines also and important all over the tropics.There can't be too many fruits as important or enjoyed in the world.

BMc You only have to hold off the farmer and guard dogs for 30 seconds while I secure the specimens and make my getaway.

Thanks for the info pepe.That is  longer than a soursop or sugar apple would take.

If you're loaded with clays,mulch and humus and have a colloidal disneyland and it is applied way beyond the dripline it is pretty forgiving.

Volume my be a truer indicator and India produces 9x more for 20 x more people so it still is less than half as popular per capita than Thailand.

I have a great idea.If BMc drives 500 miles north and I drive 500 miles south we could meet at the farm that has erdon lee.If we hurdle the fence together an he distracts the guard dogs I could snatch a few snippets and make my escape.Later we could meet up and share the bounty.

BMc that is outrageous and I refused to even give the seedlings away because I didn't want to inflict disappointment on others..To think I put them on a fast development track and lavished the finest fertilsers and nutrients on them and they turned on me at fruiting time.I don't think there ever been a greater disparity between reality and the descriptions of a fruits' quality.

Good shot fruitlovers and it wasn't just an airswing.The growers and industry have known for decades they should be growing other varieties and some planted big areas of other types.Because kent,keitt,brooks,palmer and a few others flopped so badly as blind freddie could have seen, it was back to KP.New local types,calypso,r2e2 have been planted and are doing alright.Just a few with insight planted nam dok mai,ok rung,keow sawaoy,sam ru du and are now reaping rewards commensurate with these better types.
I tried about 20 of the most popular indian selections at the research station I spoke of earlier and some were quite ok but they did not meet with favour in the farming community.Private enthusiasts have long had bigger selections.

I am sure you are correct fruitlovers but mangoes per capita might be a different story.I think thailand has alot of expertise in fruit breeding and has developed mangoes to suit their tastes.It could be coincidental that my tastes mirror those of the thais with respect to mangoes rather than the indian's.

Apply Zn with Mn but don't imbalance phosphorous and iron.