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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What is causing annona fruit to split?
« on: December 25, 2017, 02:41:05 PM »
Yes Bhk; I am planning on picking them earlier than I wanted to, thanks! My thinking is to wait as long as possible, cause they seem to be getting bigger, still...

Prior to posting this, I went out and found 1 more split fruit, with a low of about 45F!  Simon, I fertilize with  "Osmocote Plus" mixed with the regular 15/15/15 NPK at 4:1 ratio, so most of the minors you mentioned are in the package, except Calcium; for this I also added "Citrus Tone" fertilizer starting last Spring, which contains Calcium and some "Biotone microbes".
I didn't measure how much I give fertilizers on my trees (my bad?), I just approximate it and feed them 3 to 4 times /year. I skipped fertilizing the annonas for this Winter season.

I don't know if the important ingredients in those 2 fertilizers are sufficient or not, I hope so. The leaves and all else look normal/healthy to me. Thanks for your response, Simon!

Another split fruit:


Most remaining fruits:

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What is causing annona fruit to split?
« on: December 24, 2017, 04:28:21 PM »
Update:
This year 2017; my African pride tree produces about 25 fruits. But the splitting of fruits continue. This morning I was surprised to notice that 1 was badly cracked (the first one so far this year: bottom photo); so I picked that and 2 more that are already showing some splitting.



My watering: constant with auto timer, no rainfall all Summer, no additional hand watering given. So, sudden increase of watering may not be the culprit in my case.

Cold night: Well, I notice the lows were 42, 41 on Dec 21, 22 (the lowest this winter for my area) while the previous week's lows were in high 40s. (Wunderground.com).

So, those 2 nights' season lows may have been enough to cause the fruits to crack??
If so, then we better keep an eye on those night's low for your area annona growers; start picking them earlier might be a good advice...Thanks to Rob, Frank and Gozp for all the inputs!

Rain and cold night causes Anonas to crack. My crop has been devastated by birds and squirrels. The atemoyas have been splitting in the last two weeks

Cant tell from the picture but is it possi le it was ripe and just left on the tree too long?

I have only seen sugar apples split when left on the tree too long.  They should be picked when the sections separate and show a lighter color between the sections.  They will tben soften up when ready to eat.  Ilamas should be left on the tree until they split...sugar apples,  atemoya and custard apples (and 'Moyas from all I have seen) should be picked firm ripe and let them finish off the tree.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Hello all! Crambola suggestion please
« on: December 21, 2017, 11:50:58 PM »
If you meant Carambola (starfruit), there's currently a thread going entitled "Carambola":

http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=26291.0

Seems like the favorites are Kari and Bell.
Welcome to the forum!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Idiot-proof grafting tool?
« on: December 21, 2017, 10:07:00 PM »
You want clean lengthwise cuts. Just like sharpening pencil, you will do better than these tools.

Agreed!. Just watch a few youtube's video, then practice a dozen or so times, you'll get
the hang of it pretty quick...

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: HLB Getting Worse in California
« on: December 20, 2017, 01:51:46 AM »
Oh boy! The paper listed they found and removed infected trees from the cities of Anaheim and Garden Grove too, they are only 9-10 miles away from me, so looks like all my 7-8 citrus trees are in real danger??
I haven't even tasted my precious Pummelo, Cara cara, Golden Nugget (and few more) yet!!

Anyone knows how to prevent this pest from attacking the citrus trees?

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Indeed!  Though I'm not personally a durian fan, I know growing durian is a must.  The asian food stores here sell frozen durians for about $25-$30 each; it's a no brainer to have at least one tree when you have such a large greenhouse space.  Just hope the ventilation system would prevent the smell from getting too bad, given that it's an enclosed space  ;)

I am wondering if durian's smell is prominent or even detectable while the fruits are still hanging on the tree, someone who's been near the durian trees or grow them can tell you this for sure. If so, well, that may call for special enclosure, a large one I suppose...

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I can understand how you are excited about this project.
Wish you luck in participating in it, who knows, maybe someday
I'll have option to go to Reykjavík when fresh durian craving hit me,
instead of heading to Hilo... ;D

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado thread
« on: December 18, 2017, 10:39:49 PM »
I think what you need to observe is whether it has a "graft line", usually about few inches above the soil surface. If that's positive, then you know it's grafted tree, and with the seed showing, this is what you want, because you'll have s tap root growing under that seed; resulting in generally faster and stronger growing tree.  (As compared to air layered tree without a tap root).

I am surprise if Home Depot is selling seedling avocado or cherimoya. But on mango, I read that they sell Manila seedlings from Lavern's nursery...

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Will this cracked ppc ripe?
« on: December 18, 2017, 03:11:40 AM »
I had just a single fruit from my 1st time fruiting African pride tree in 2015, again a single fruit harvest in 2016, and the fruits cracked both times!

From what I read, inconsistent watering was commonly the blame, if so, then maybe I was not paying attention on adjusting the watering in rainy/cloudy days during the previous 2 years when the fruit was developing.

This Summer I upgraded my irrigation timer to "Rain machine" which automatically adjust (reduce) watering base on weather/rain condition, (it also has the convenience of having WIFI remote control) so beside saving water effortlessly, hopefully it helps water the trees more consistently. This year, my African pride has about 25 sizing up fruits hanging, and I don't see any crack fruit yet; ... "knock on wood".

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cutting or Air layering on Sapodilla advice
« on: December 18, 2017, 01:27:57 AM »
Don't know about air layering or cutting as a propagation method for Sapodilla. But last June I grafted one Silas wood scion unto a 1 foot seedling (seed from store bought fruit)  and it's now planted in the ground:



By the way, "Makok" is another common variety of Sapodilla...

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Overmulching?
« on: December 17, 2017, 10:30:24 AM »
Just keep it away from the base and trunk of the trees. Use those empty plastic pots and cut the bottoms off and cut vertically, and place them around the base of the tree to keep mulch away from the trunks.

Interestingly, after reading about this trunk rot danger few years ago, that's exactly what I've been doing to my trees; no trunk rot so far...

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado thread
« on: December 07, 2017, 01:44:37 PM »
Wow, you Spaugh and Mark got very desirable collection of Avocado varieties!
Congratulations on successfully growing and nursing them;
I see lots of guacamole there... :D
Meanwhile, my Sir prize fruit is also darkening maybe about 70%
as of last week, so you guys will be ahead of me...


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherimoya prices skyrocketing
« on: December 04, 2017, 05:15:48 PM »
I also paid $9/lb at fruit specialty store in Westminster, CA.
She said it’s locally grown, it tasted ok; my own Dr. White and Honey heart
are a lot better...
By the way, some members here saying that Cherimoya from Chili
are really bad, and I agree, I wouldn’t buy those again, having
bought some of those myself in the past...

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado thread
« on: November 25, 2017, 10:42:04 AM »
I don't think the young tree was dead when they shipped it, but possibly unhealthy
when it arrived due to heat (Summer time) inside the box..., and I wasn't able to
rejuvenate the tree to recover from it...

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado thread
« on: November 24, 2017, 01:16:10 PM »
Thanks for the heads up Mark! I’ve had bought a few trees
from Toptropicals, my experience with them has been good -so far-
one time they sent a replacement tree for a  dead one even
after a few days in my possession...



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado thread
« on: November 23, 2017, 11:27:14 AM »
Check this video out.
https://youtu.be/BY6CNEkXYGE

Oh boy, if it aint Chris from Growquest, hah!  That video was shot in 2013.  I wonder if he's out of jail yet, or still living considering how many he's ripped off?

Also, it's Hass aka H-ASS, not Hoz!

I was one of his victims, $75 for a Holiday avocado tree he promoted in Youtube but that he never deliver, only promises...! Glad to know he was jailed, he deserved it!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What Is Eating My Papayas?
« on: November 16, 2017, 02:07:41 PM »
Glad to see you caught the culprit!
I am also still keeping my Rat Zapper, just in case it will be needed...

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Spend some time to read and learn how to grow mango in Southern California
post by Simon, here:

http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=23124.0

Lots of useful info there...

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What Is Eating My Papayas?
« on: November 15, 2017, 08:30:25 PM »
Yes, I would guess it’s a bird; looks more like long beak markings
instead of rodent’s teeth to me...
Thanks Jeff, this just reminded me to pick my one yellowing papaya now...

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My first taste of Dr. White cherimoya
« on: November 09, 2017, 02:55:20 PM »
Thanks for the compliments guys, and for the heads up Bob, never been to any tasting event, I'll see if I am up to it in January!

You're right Simon, my Dr. White branches are still small, the biggest maybe about the size of my thumb (grafted from your pencil size scion in Spring 2015), it only has 3 fruits on it, the second one just dropped yesterday, thus reminding me to write up this thread.
So, yeah, this would be even better in years ahead if they can reach 2 lb!  :)


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / My first taste of Dr. White cherimoya
« on: November 09, 2017, 01:37:02 AM »
Just want to share my first time tasting experience of this variety: Dr. White. (Thanks again to Simon for his generous gift of the scion). This variety didn't win any best tasting award that I can tell from reading this forum.

But, oh my, when I tasted this fruit for the first time about a month ago, it overwhelmed me: smooth "flesh" with very desirable (to me) slight chewiness..., just the right amount of sweetness, and low seed count to top it off.

The best that I ever had of cherimoya fruits, albeit my limited tasting experience of just a few varieties so far. Hmm, I am looking forward with much anticipation of what the other favorite annona varieties taste like...

Here's couple of photo of the fruit:




 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Top these cherimoyas?
« on: October 29, 2017, 08:55:10 PM »
Hey its never to late to pug it and start over.  I know at some point it becomes too painful to do that. 
Spaugh is absolutely correct. You can chop it down to knee level around April/May and it will sprout many new branches as long as the tree is healthy.
Simon

Hey, since I got 5 grown up cherimoya trees now, I might just do that on 1 or 2!
Got to preserve (transplant) a couple of the favorite scions ahead of time, though...
Never thought of being able to "redesign" a tree before! ;D
Thanks to a lot of you in this forum...

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Top these cherimoyas?
« on: October 29, 2017, 05:05:36 PM »
Compact, bushy and healthy looking cherimoya tree;
Wished I read this thread before I planted mine;
Good job, Spaugh!  :)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado thread
« on: October 27, 2017, 05:58:24 PM »
Hi, thanks for that chart, Mark! Your scribbling on it actually made that an even more valuable one!  :D  Looks like Reed and Pinkerton are good choices for us home growers, huh? Okay, I'll be hunting for some more cado scions come Jan/Feb !

Spaugh, yeah, I read somewhere that one can attempt to "guide" the tree so that it won't go to the alternate bearing mode, but I forgot how or what the successful rate would be; so I will try your suggested thinning method and see what happens...

Hi Raiders, yes., it's fast upright growers,  -as Mark's chart and my tree indicates- .
On fruiting "year", you  may want to do lots of thinning and/or give extra limb support, as I recall Frank's large tree limb broke due to abundant of fruits weight about 2 years ago.

So, if this is ok, along with alternate bearing tendency of this Sir prize, then that's fine. But, I prefer to have a consistent yearly fruiting one, so I'll probably do a partial top worked on mine, keeping just a couple of Sir prize's at the lower branches...


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado thread
« on: October 27, 2017, 01:10:41 AM »
Well, upon rereading this thread again, there on page 2:reply no. 49; JF already said that this "Sir prize is excellent ridiculous producer but every other year."

Something to think about folks, when planting this variety.

Now, I need to go back to my drawing board, maintaining some of the Sir prize main trunk, and adding/combining with more varieties on this same tree...hope this will work!


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