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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Wrap your willy...
« on: May 12, 2012, 07:26:14 AM »
After looking at the photo, let me rephrase it to 'Relatively' blemish free.

I have a tough time growing papaya as I can't keep enough water on them.  But, this one I decided I was going to keep watered and it was advertised as a dwarf which as you can see produced fruit at around 6 feet (~2m) height.  I really don't like papaya unless it is perfect ripe/variety.  The one I picked two weeks ago was underripe and inedible due to the grubs grossing me out. Yes, I know the grub is added protein in the fruit diet, but it was a little bit of a turn off for me...LOL...my friend had no problems eating around them though.  LOL...Not kidding.... 

How do I know when papaya are ready to pick?  Does this one need to go back in the bag and incubate a little more?  Thanks for any advice.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Wrap your willy...
« on: May 12, 2012, 07:19:24 AM »
If I want any papaya I have to wrap it with paper.  Otherwise as most fruit growers know, out in the open and papaya gets attacked by every living creature.








Blemish free.  I left another papaya unbagged next to this one and it was full of grubs when I cut into it. Another one was taken by roof rats.  Hopefully this one will be good. 

How do you know when papaya are ready to pick? 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help Identifying My Mango Tree!
« on: May 12, 2012, 06:50:55 AM »
I'm just guessing here, but maybe a Glenn

Here is a photo of a glenn from my tree:


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Your least favorite mango
« on: May 11, 2012, 10:33:26 PM »
I think Madamme Frances is the worst one of the available mango.  Also, any mango shipped from Mexico into Florida absolutely suck.   

Also, don't judge a mango from one taste.  I've eaten horrible hadens in florida to swearing it was the best one I have ever had in Costa Rica. Mango have off years and in other places can taste different.  I have seen two trees of the same variety growing next to each other and one taste good and the other bad.  The following year the tasting difference was swapped. 

For the Madamme frances I'm only judging it on one tree I had. I gave it three years and every year the fruit was horrible. Heavy fiber and poor taste.   So, maybe it was just that one tree and I got unlucky with it.

Also, another "least favorite" would be when someone finds out that I like mango and is from the Islands.   They rant and rave about their mango back home and nothing is better.  Then one day they come up and say their mother-n-law smuggled in some fruit and they give me one.  I get home and try it and it is nasty stringy and fiberish.  They obviously are oblivous of the finer Florida variety that we have!


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LOL.  I love dark sarcasm. That is a good one...as sad as it is.  I also love a good irony.

That hillside definitely looks like it is suffering from erosion and land slides due to land clearing.


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LOL...found this jaboticaba in it's natural habitat (while googlin').

  Does it need to be pruned?   LOL






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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Climate and Definitions
« on: May 11, 2012, 09:57:02 PM »
I'm no expert but I think the US zones are based on minimal average low temps.   

The maps just recently changed last year for the U.S.

Zone 11 is tropical which for Florida are the Southern Keys. 

Then 10a and 10b are South Florida (Miami) and up the East and West Coast with the inner part of the State being Zone 9.   

Ultratropical for plants are typically plants that kick the bucket under 45F degrees. 

Tropical plants around 32F-35F.

Sub-tropical can typically drop below the freezing mark of 32F but not lower than 25-28F.   


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Post pics of Pitombas!
« on: May 11, 2012, 09:49:43 PM »
Will it fruit in partial shade?   

 Yes, the freezes knocked it back some, but has recovered and I'm surprised it is still alive.   But, hearing 26F then I'm not worried about it anymore.    The 09/2010 winter low was 29F, but the duration of course was way longer than any other winter.   I just planted it as a novelty.  If I get fruit then that is icing on the cake!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Post pics of Pitombas!
« on: May 11, 2012, 09:32:20 PM »
If it was neglected it would be dead by now!   

The Pitomba isn't going to thrive without water that is for sure.   I only use rain water for this plant. It is well fed also.  3 years is a good guess.  Probably is around 3.     It gets a lot of sun in the winter but it wouldn't survive in a freeze so the option for me is to grow it as an understory and on the South side of the house.   I'm a minilimist when it comes to gardening (if you can believe that), so I'm not going to grow it in a container as that would be more work.   

It survived the 2010 winter with a little burnage outside uncovered. It saw a low of 29F degrees in my yard with the bird baths freezing over a couple mornings in a row. 

 Anyone know what the cold tolerance of it is? 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Post pics of Pitombas!
« on: May 11, 2012, 09:05:46 PM »
Thanks for the photos.   I have one that has been in the ground for a few years and have been curious on what the fruit looks like.  Its a slow grower for me, but I have it in partial shade. 

beer bottle for scale.  I think it will be a long time before this fruits, if ever.



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mangos of Merritt Island
« on: May 11, 2012, 08:55:22 PM »
That small mango is the turpentine variety.  Can you believe it?  The turpentine made the cover of Florida Gardening Mag!?!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mallika mango question
« on: May 11, 2012, 08:09:01 PM »
The best way I have found to see if they are ripe is a few ways. 

Know the variety and the season.

Squirrels will start scratching the fruit two weeks before they are ready.  They test them also.

Grab the fruit gently and tilt it 45 degrees. If it snaps off easy then it is ready and also if it bleeds white or clear shows.  If it is white sap flowing it is too early (but still will ripen). If it is clear sap then it was ready to pick.   

For Mallika I let them sit on the tree as long as possible.  There is a very fine line with Mallika as if it is picked too early it can be nasty.  Of course, in my opinion, mango is best ripened on the tree and picked the day you eat it.  However, that is difficult to do with rodents/birds.   Thus, picking it hard green has advantage.   

I really like Mallika.  It has a silky complex flavor.  Indian mango are typically like this.   Not everyone likes it however, unless it is perfectly ripe. 

Where the horse dung rumor came in is kind of funny.  I imagine if you ripen green mango in a bag with horseshit it would ripen quickly and install a particular earthy flavor to it....LOL...

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That Grimal is a pretty tree. Thanks for the photos...and the U-tube vids and info!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mangos of Merritt Island
« on: May 11, 2012, 07:21:57 AM »
"TINY many under "LADY"?"

I'm sorry, I don't understand what you are asking.  Come again.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mangos of Merritt Island
« on: May 10, 2012, 10:36:50 PM »
I wrote this back in 1999 on Merritt Island Mango:

http://centralfloridapalms.com/archived/sep2003/mimango.htm


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Thanks for the photos and info.  I have a tree that is around 6 feet tall and not even as healthy looking as the photos. It also has never flowered.

Pine Island Nursery is selling a 'chicken tongue' wampee and Eric was raving about it at the Brevard Rare fruit sale last month.   I don't have any more info than that.

My wampee has grown while being severly neglected...Hey, maybe that is why it has never flourished or flowered!  I planted it around ten years ago.  Since I've planted a couple tangerines nearby so maybe it can suck some nutrients from them as I fertilize.   


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mangos of Merritt Island
« on: May 09, 2012, 08:48:37 PM »
Also, May is way too early for mango.   

I did pick my first rosigold, which is an early mango. But, it is not ripe yet. 

I'll keep an eye open for the South Tropical Trail road side stands and let you guys know when they open.  Typically, they don't open until late June. 


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mangos of Merritt Island
« on: May 09, 2012, 08:46:05 PM »

Here is my largest mango on Merritt Island. It is a Glenn.  As you can see it is sparse with fruit this year.  However, last year and the year before it was extremely loaded so I guess it is taking this year off.  It is getting hacked back this summer as it is nearing the power lines.



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself
« on: May 09, 2012, 08:06:29 AM »
Hey People, I found this site through googlin'.  Never liked the gardenweb site as it was too cluttered and slow so never joined, but always found it through googlin'.

I'm Dave (duh) and live in Brevard County, Florida as well. 

I've been a member of the Brevard Rare Fruit Council, now Brevard Tropical Fruit Club since 1995.  Also, for websites this one reminds me of the very first tropical fruit forum back in the 90s that was ran by Bruce Livingston or handle Santol.  Anyone remember that one?  It has since closed down (like a decade ago).  I also run a gardening forum at 2ndlight.com along with the website in general. My day job is a Computer Engineer and am a  keyboard jockey in a tiny cubicle all day long.  (it pays the bills and keeps me off the streets). 

I'm also current President of the Central Florida Palm and Cycad Society.   I grow a lot of different types of fruits and like to collect palms, croton, cordyline, bromeliads, and any other plants.

For fruits, I have numerous mango, lychee, jaboticaba, citrus, longan, etc etc etc.    My main problem is that all my trees have now crowded each other out and shading each other so my fruit production has gone down.  But, as a home hobbyist I get just enough fruit to keep me going! 

I also like gardening photography and since the digital age probably have taking over 100,000 photos.  Give or take 10,000 or so.  LOL. 

Nice forum and I hope I have the time to contribute and/or just lurk around. 


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