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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Dream atemoya aka dream cherimoya
« on: August 10, 2017, 02:53:18 AM »
For real?  I never knew that cherimoya are better than atemoya?  I'm trying to find the best atemoya or annonas to plant in my garden when it is still young.  I don't want to plant something and then remove it because it wasn't good..

You are in an area where you can grow amazing moyas.  Just be very selective with choosing the best varieties.   There is not an atemoya I know of that can compete with the better moyas.

May want to look into planting some atone fruit too.  The beat white nectarines will knock your socks off.  There are some interspecific varieties that I would give up my mangoes to be able to grow.

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Honey Hart is a good commercial type variety but a notch below the top tier varieties.

I can honestly say I have nevwr had a Pierce that was not an award winner and exceptional quality.  Maybe the grower plays a re but I guess that is where I am spoiled...

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They have knight cherimoya and bumpos at walter andersons in poway.  The trees are hidden behind the bananas.  They are more expensive there but they have some top grafted trees.  You can probably find some up in vista also maybe atkins or clausons.

Walter Anderson down in Point Loma have these weird Vietnamese hybrid from Lavine and they can't seem to explain to me what is in the hybrid.  Bumpos seems like a nice cherimoya.

That would be Laverne and its a Dr. White...a bottom tier variety.  I would not waste time or space growing as a backyard variety...not one I would ever choose to eat.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Dream atemoya aka dream cherimoya
« on: August 10, 2017, 12:23:12 AM »
I am looking for dream atemoya or cherimoya plants, scions, seeds, or graft.  Is the seed true to the plant or does it need to be grafted?

Would need to be grafted.  You live in the land where the best moyas are available and the Dream cannot touch them.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Kauai sugarloaf pineapple... thumbs up
« on: August 10, 2017, 12:15:07 AM »
getting close to the end of our Hawaii trip. Picked up some sugarloaf pineapple at the local farmer's market. Delicious. Super sweet with low acidity. Does sugarloaf grow well in Florida?

Yes...bring dem tops back.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My first Cherimoya - how was yours
« on: August 09, 2017, 10:38:12 PM »
OK Point taken.  I have had store bought mango and it was a mess. 
I will hang on to a few of the seeds and some competition for my mangos.

If using the moya seeds for rootstock than ok, if growing them for the fruit, dont waate space, time or effort...

If you want to try the near impossible and want to see if you can fruit moyas here, get some top tier budwood (see my other post) and go all out.  No sense in wasting time on garbage.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My first Cherimoya - how was yours
« on: August 09, 2017, 10:21:21 PM »
Yup, based on imported store bought moyas, I would never want one again.  They are like eating a store bought Tommy Atkins compared to a home grown top Zill variety.  Once you taste a fresh harvested top varieties from California, you will understand what I am saying.

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Pierce, Campas, El Bumpo, Sabor, Fino, Santa Rosa...there are a few others I am waiting to try that might bump the variety on the bubble out.  Hopefully get to try a couple few new varieties this winter.

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Cherimoya, cherimoya, cherimoya,  cherimoya and cherimoya.  If you want to know a sixth, I would go with cherimoya.   Honorable mention, ilama.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sweet Tart Mango
« on: August 09, 2017, 07:38:22 PM »



Never thought of peeling a mango.  Do you use a paring knife or potato peeler?  I'll have more ST and some Lemon Zest to play with soon and as a newbie am still struggling as to how best to get the meat as whole, as one big cheek, as possible.

Mark, the flesh next to the skin of most mangos is absolutely delicious and peeling the mango makes it much more difficult to gnaw off the bits of flesh. Duncan is one mango that I do not like the flesh close to the skin because it tastes very bitter to me. Lemon Zest on the other hand has some of the strongest Citrus flavor concentrated around the flesh close to the skin.

When cutting up mangos for guests or kids, I usually peel my mangos to make it easier and less messy to eat.

Simon

Depends on what you like out of the mango.  Some despise the flavor if scraping the skin.  I just find it would be difficult to handle the fruit if peeled like this, versus cutting and "filleting" the flesh off the skin.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Not an Ice Cream banana?
« on: August 09, 2017, 07:35:14 PM »
In searching the internet I have found that it is extremely common for Namwah to be mislabeled as "Ice Cream" so I'm very confident I do not have a "Blue Java".

Really depends on the when, where and origin of the plant you have....

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: sweet tart rotting on the stem
« on: August 09, 2017, 03:29:06 PM »
After seeing your post a few days ago I went home and checked my sweet tart only to find the dreaded Bacterial Black Spot on my few sweet tarts that were left on the tree. It had just broke the skin so I cut the bad spot out and have my fingers crossed that the rest of the mango will ripen up ok on the counter.  I hope it doesn't spread to my other trees...

You should have taken pictures first.  I have seen a lot of what people thing is MBBS that turns out to be something else.  It will not ripen too well since you have cut into it.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Juciy Peach and Peach Cobbler Mango
« on: August 09, 2017, 03:25:54 PM »
I just plated my Peach Cobbler (not like I needed anymore mango trees) and justified pulling out a Hamlin Orange tree due to the citrus psyllid insect problem in Florida. Can anyone post a photo of the fruit when ripe? Can anyone describe the growth profile of this tree? Thanks in advance...

Will look for a picture but basically green.

Tree is vigorous and upright with a very slight spread

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Probably will get Black Mission and LSU from them. Anyone have success in south Florida with either one?

I have some run of the mill Ischia and Brown Turkey growing. They get watery and do not get much sweet like they would in a dry climate. I have fruits on it now.

Both will fruit here but much better varieties available locally.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lychee problem - please help
« on: August 09, 2017, 10:35:43 AM »


What kind of tree is it under?

I think it's a crape myrtle tree.

Ok, as long as it is not an oak.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lychee problem - please help
« on: August 09, 2017, 07:08:38 AM »
I used pro mix with mycorrhizae.  Got it from Lowes. 
I killed one of my container atemoya couple years ago from overwatering.  So I am a bit timid of giving too much water.  I water my container avocados twice daily cuz if I don't they would be piss (leaves curling down).  But this lychee doesn't have much leaves left and I cannot tell of any indication it demands more water.  Right now it's sitting under a large tree.  Completely shielded from wind and direct sun lights.  I have a layer of pine mulch on top and the soil feels moist underneath.  I will try to increase watering daily. 
I collected some rain water early in the year.  They didn't last 2 weeks once the sun came out  8) .  It's a challenge to find rain water this time of the year. 

I have some liquid kelp and Dyna Gro foliage fertilizer.  Should I use it or wait  til I see new growth?  Also should it be in full shade or give it some sun light?

What kind of tree is it under?

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i ordered figs and blueberry from them before. Have no idea if they were the variety they claimed as i never successfully fruited them beyond  a small handful of berries and figs before i got rid of them prior to a move, but they came promptly and were well packaged. Be aware they are very small plants, 1-2 inches in height with corresponding rootball.

1 - 2 inches ?

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I believe Excalibur has Praying Hands and Ice Cream.  Anogher option is getting them from Going Bananas.

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This one didn't smell like stinky ass.  ;D It was sweet and soft like persimmon, yummy. 




Soft like a ripe persimmon (astringent type)???  If so, that is not a good thing for a papaya.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lychee problem - please help
« on: August 07, 2017, 11:57:44 PM »
Try applying Spinosad every 10-14 days with a sprayer. It works well on sucking insects.

I am going to try that.  I heard lychee doesn't like chemical spray which is why I stopped all treatments and no fertilizer.

When they are stressed, their roots have trouble taking up anything, sometimes even water.  They do not like to be dried out.  It may take daily watering.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lychee problem - please help
« on: August 07, 2017, 08:47:53 PM »



I bought this 25 gal sweetheart lychee last summer.  It shed all of the leaves around November as the weather changed to cooler temperatures.  Shortly it sent out some new shoots and leaves.  The new leaves would curl alittle unlike previously flat.  Soon the leave would develop brown spots and new growths appeared to be torched.  I thought maybe it was getting too cold so I move ithe container next to a south facing wall.  It didnt make any difference but kept the tree alive through winter.  Spring came and it sent out new growth again.  Same issue.  I thought it was anthracnose so I sprayed it with copper.  Some of the leaves started to grow straight and I thought I got it.  Pretty soon all of the new growths appeared burned just like before.  Leaves would develop brown spots again.  I have trimmed off all dead branches and leaves.  Repotted with Pro Mix.  I move it under a large tree with nearly 70% shade.  It's been a month and I have not see any new growth.  What is my issue and how can I save this tree?   Thanks

How often and how much do you water?

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As Nighthawk has stated, Carlos stopped short on many of his recommendations. I'm wondering what the final decision was on the Oro Negro.

If I was living in Florida and had a pro like Carlos doing all the research and testing for me in my clime, I'd listen to him and follow his advice.

PIN recommended Brogdon and Oro Negro which I planted.  Couldn't stand Brogdon. It's just like these sorry "Tex-mex" trees (Fantastic, Joey, Wilma, etc.)  pushed by nurserymen here in Texas - has a thin skin which makes for messy processing and anthracnose pressures, big seed, fair taste and texture.  Chopped it down, grafted it to the Waldin it was on, and it's now a Frankencado of rich, high oil fruits.

One issue with that is Carlos is in an area of Miami-Dade that has a much different soil makeup than most ofher areas of SFla.  This can play a role in results of his observations and studies and how things would grow in areas with a mainly sand based soil makeup.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pim Seng Mun seedlings
« on: August 06, 2017, 08:20:57 PM »
Was your PSM a seedling? Did it ever fruit? The leaves on these seedlings just look paddle like to me and without the prominent veining present in other, elongated mango leaves (like my Nam Doc Mai seedlings). Thanks!


Sure looks normal to me (not for a PSM seedling but a seesling mango in general).  Just curious,  why are you growing a PSM seedling?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jackfruit - a second (or 3rd?) opinion
« on: August 06, 2017, 08:17:58 PM »
Your statement was only partially accurate when speaking of being confused by Jackfruit in your opening line. You sound like your confused about life with such stupid nonsense you spout off about.

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: GMO Papaya/Solo Papayas in Florida
« on: August 06, 2017, 03:25:28 PM »
Agreed, not all GMO is bad.  I am sure a number of people would love to have the opportunity to purchase and grow the GMO papaya from Hawaii.

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