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Raul, remember you promise: do not forget to investigate about Annona globiflora. It must be there somewhere!!! Almost the same habitat of A.purpurea...

all the best,

Giampaolo

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Hi Micah!

For the plants with Cerrado origins (A.cornifolia, A.sp.rollinia, A.sp.squamosa) as well as for those with African origins like A.stenophylla or the one close to Paraguay (A.nutans), you should bear in mind what I found in Wikipedia, that I agree with:

"The Cerrado's climate is typical of the rather moister savanna regions of the world, with a semi-humid tropical climate. The Cerrado is limited to two dominant seasons throughout the year, wet and dry. Annual temperatures for the Cerrado average between 22 and 27 °C and average precipitation between 800–2000 mm for over 90% of the area.[5] This ecoregion has a very strong dry season during the southern winter (approx. April– September)"

So, my suggestion is: put these plants in full sun, and at least for 6 months, if the plants are planted in the ground, I would water much less than the rest of the plants you have, profiting from your dry season. So, be careful to not rot the roots with too much water when the plants are static! Especially for A.stenophylla which has at the base a tuberous root which cumulate water for the dry season every year!
By the way, if A.stenophylla start drying in the aereal part at the end of season, don't be afraid!!! It's normal, every year do like this, and restart growing from the tuber the following season, usually with new flowers!!

The rest of the plants, things are much easier, since A.bahiensis, A.parviflora, A.neolaurifolia and A.ubatubensis are much flexible. It worth to mention that I found in my bonsai collection that A.bahiensis and A.neolaurifolia are much more cold resistant but my advice is: do not rely too much on that, since I also found they react muuuuuch better if they are exposed to half shade/sun during the hot season days and protected by the cold wind during the night also in cold season. You recognize that immediately when they are in the flowering dress: they feel stonger if they were protected!

Another interesting tip is the manure: for all Cerrado type, they like organic manure, but do NOT exaggerate with it! The Cerrado ground like the African savannah are very poor soil!!! Too much manure can burn the roots easily. Do it carefully only few days before the seasonal new growths.
For the other annonaceae, they can tolerate much more flexibility in term of quantity and percentage of components, but do not exceed to acid PH.

Last but not least: be careful about the wind: these annonaceae are quite resistant, but I recognized that they prefer protected places from the cold winds. I mean, they don't like still places without wind, but not too windy! This is because still humidity can lead to mold in the leaves and that's really not good! If you have a place in the third line of the beachfront that's could be the best.

Ok, that's enough for the moment, for any other question you may have, just ask!

hugs from Italy,

Giampaolo



Aloha brethren,
In the nursery should they be in full sun or partial?
As far as watering goes? Is it ok to water every day like our other plants? Or should I set aside an annona cerrado zone that gets less watering?  They look like they are quite hardy.
You get royal carpet treatment when you visit Hawaii from me.
Mahalo!

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Great Micah,

many thanks for your kind words!!

one day I will visit you in Hawaii... still in my dreams,,,

By the way, in the meanwhile do not hesitate to ask me whatever you may need for best results with these treasures. Next year I will have the rarest of the rarest annonaceae... you will be up in my list!


hugs from Italy,

Giampaolo


Aloha Giampaolo!
Mahalo Nui Loa for sharing these amazing Annonas.
The plants look great!  No jet lag
Please keep me on the list for next available 🌱.
I repotted them and have them in full sun.  So far they look happy .
Blessings

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Thank you so much Sune,

I have in pipeline many ultra-rare annonaceae for conosseurs for sale for the next year. I will give priority to all friends who were so enthusiastic like you.

Hope you will keep safe and fruitful your Annonas for the next years, and they will reward you!!!

For any cultivation tip you may need just ask!

All the best,

Giampaolo


This weekend I received the last annona plants from this season - and the first in my annona adventure that will, hopefully, last many years to come. The plants look healthy and were packed well. There was no damage from their journey from Italy to Denmark. Overall, very satisfied and excited by this chance to getting started in the Annonaceae sphere. Thank you Giampaolo, I will look forward to seeing what jewels you have in stock next year  ;)!

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Many thanks Raul, I know for sure the fruit worth the troubles!
It's not that big but the texture and flavour is ok.


Many thanks and keep me update on that if you can,

All the best,

Giampaolo



Hola Raul,

by the way, did you have the chance to find Annona globiflora seeds somewhere????!!!! is endemic to Mexico!

All the best,

Giampaolo


Hi Gianpaolo, never seen or heard off, but will try to investigate and look for it and región whre it grows country is very big and with different climates regards!

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Hola Raul,

by the way, did you have the chance to find Annona globiflora seeds somewhere????!!!! is endemic to Mexico!

All the best,

Giampaolo



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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Last Annonaceae sales for this season
« on: September 29, 2017, 05:26:04 PM »
The plants arrived in perfect condition. Overal, the service was very professional and the plants were carefully packed!

Many thanks Tiago!!!!!

Next year will have more jewels for you!!

cheers,

Giampaolo

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Last Annonaceae sales for this season
« on: September 29, 2017, 04:20:06 AM »
Thanks Joao!!

All the best,

Giampaolo

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Hi Raul, I sent a PM to you...

All the best,

Giampaolo

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Last Annonaceae sales for this season
« on: September 26, 2017, 05:44:33 PM »
Hi I resent a PM to you... did you get it?

thanks,

Giampaolo

I am sorry - but I haven't got any PM yet. I am still interested in annonaceae - hope some still left  ;)
Brd Sune

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Last Annonaceae sales for this season
« on: September 25, 2017, 10:26:41 AM »
Dear Sune, I sent you a PM, please check!

Thanks,

Giampaolo

I am insterested in annona muricata and annona cornifolia, if you still got some  ;)?

Brd
Sune

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Last Annonaceae sales for this season
« on: September 22, 2017, 08:44:15 AM »

Many thanks Tong,

the box size was only to preserve the leaves and health of the plants: I had bad experiences in the past recieving damaged plants because shipped with too small boxes. Fortunately, the box weight didn't affect the shipping price, while on the other hand the extra plants I put in it did, and I had to pay by my side the difference. Anyway, I was truly happy to deliver to you these treasures!!! They are in good hands now again.

Take care of them, will be great!

Giampaolo


i got the plant already. all the seedlings are in very good condition.
only one thing problem, you used too big box for sending the plant to oversea. the box was very big cause a lot of shipping fee and catched the custom eye.
 my plant got confiscated but i went to negotiate and pay extra money. finally i got them back with me.
but i love your plant

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Good luck Raul!!! Once you get something interesting with good prices, let's share!

All the best,

Giampaolo

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Last Annonaceae sales for this season
« on: September 18, 2017, 05:40:36 PM »

TO ALL PEOPLE: THE SALE BELOW IS SOLD OUT SINCE 2 MONTHS AGO. THANKS!!!

For all friends annonaholic collectors that have not been able to buy some species in my last sale:

This is your lucky day!

I saved some plants now available for sale, it's a good chance to get very rare fruits for your collection. Most of those were originally planned for my garden.

All are not difficult to cultivate and are already acclimatized outdoor (not in greenhouse). My summer was great and they grew further. Here you can find the previous photos in my last post: http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=24867.msg291978#msg291978

I shipped everywhere in the world. Below you have the N° of plants available and prices: for orders with more than 4 plants, you get 20% discount.

Species   N° plants   Price in Euro   
Annona cornifolia   2   15   (flowering size, see attached photo)
Annona Sp. (squamosa)   1   15   
Annona Sp. (rollinia)   1   15   
Annona bahiensis   4   30   
Annona nutans   2   30   
Annona stenophylla   2   30   
Annona parviflora   8   25   
Duguetia confinis   1   30   
Annona neolaurifolia   3   25   
Annona ubatubensis   2   30   
Anonidium mannii   1   40   
Annona muricata   3   15   
Annona squamosa   1   15   

Feel free to contact me for any enquiry you may have!

All the best,

Giampaolo



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Hi, yes we have some remained but they are not that fresh at the moment. The fruiting season is gone!

cheers,

Giampaolo

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: 2nd big Annonaceae sale!
« on: August 03, 2017, 06:53:26 AM »
Is there shipping to the United States?

Sure! I already sent to USA the last year. Quick and lucky!

Pm to me!  8)

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: 2nd big Annonaceae sale!
« on: August 02, 2017, 03:18:33 PM »
All photo updated for you!!!

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / 2nd big Annonaceae sale!
« on: July 27, 2017, 06:16:14 PM »
Dear friends,

the last year, where all have been sold out in just one week, I promised to all people interested to sell the next surplus of my collection here. This thread is just to advance the plants I'm going to sell starting from the fourth week of August, it's a sort of pre-sale where you can book the plants.

50% of the value must be paid in advance by paypal. The rest once I prepare the boxes to be sent.
The postal cost as well as packaging and paypal fees will be agreed later before preparing the boxes depending on the destination country.

Here it is the list, in the next days will follow the photos of each plant:



In case you are interested, PM to me in advance.


All the best,

Giampaolo


Here are the photos. For orders, please send me the name of the photo and I'll be back to you if the plants are still available for sale or have already been sold.

Annona bahiensis:
fruit photo: https://www.facebook.com/groups/455745377849748/permalink/1220197334737878/













Annona cornifolia:
fruit photo: http://www.colecionandofrutas.org/annocorni.htm





Annona muricata:
fruit photo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ie1TUtJGa7U&feature=youtu.be







Annona neolaurifolia:
fruit photo: http://www.colecionandofrutas.org/annonaneolaurifolia.htm







Annona nutans:
fruit photo: http://www.pybio.org/3145/annonaceae/









Annona parviflora:
fruit photo: http://www.colecionandofrutas.org/annonaparviflora.htm























Annona sp. (rollinia)
Fruit photo: very rare cross from Cerrado











Annona sp. (squamosa):
Fruti photo: another very rare cross form Cerrado





Annona squamosa red (Shrikaya merah):
fruit photo:  http://www.pohonbuahnursery.com/2013/02/srikaya-merah.html



Annona stenophylla:
fruit photo: http://www.centralafricanplants.senckenberg.de/root/index.php?page_id=34&id=7520





Annona ubatubensis:
fruit photo: http://www.colecionandofrutas.org/annonaubatubensis.htm





Anonidium mannii:
fruit photo: http://www.nzenzeflowerspauwels.be/AnonMann3.jpg





Duguetia confinis:
fruit photo: http://annonaceae.myspecies.info/gallery?f%5B0%5D=im_field_taxonomic_name%3A507













Stelechocarpus burahol:
fruit photo: https://www.facebook.com/hanif83/posts/10202327036697083







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Joe, I got the feedback by now. Sorry if it's in brasilian, but my friend only speaks that language. Here it is the conversation:

I asked him if there was any error related to mixing the seeds, and that was the answer:

"Impossível qualquer mistura de sementes. Resta saber se quem recebeu mais de uma qualidade nao as misturou ao semear. O que acho improvável,  visto que vão embaladas e denominadas. Como vc mesmo as recebeu."

So that seems it's not the cause, nor mixing of your seeds since they were all labeled and, to be sincere, this guy never gave me wrong, false or mixed seeds in more than 5 years. Furthermore, he added:

"Mas de imediato posso dizer duas possibilidades. Polinização cruzada ou sexualidade.  Como tenho certeza da procedência das sementes vale um estudo mais profundo.  Para isso tenho os departamentos das universidades para uma analise mais científica."

So it could be that there has been for strange reason a crossed pollination between varieties! Very rare, but it also happened in the past to him. He owns one of the biggest farm in Cerrado with a lot of fruits cultivars. So it could be..

When I asked to him why some seeds were with different colours of the same specie, that's was the answer:

"Sim,  coloração é normal. Todas,  inclusive marolo tem essas variações. Dependem do ponto de maturação do fruto, da secagem,  do tratamento e outras variáveis m Marolo por exemplo tem infinitas colorações . Desde a casca do fruto, polpa e sementes.  Mesmo sendo da mesma matroz vemos variações"

Until the seedlings are more bigger and the leaves are in their right shape and consistency I think is difficult to say they are not A.coriacea. But the fruit is the truth: I will ask him to contact his friends in university to have a feedback from them as well. If the answer is not satifying you I can arrange your payback to what you received. By my side, I will keep mine since they could be a very rare variety I wouldn't miss.

The nature is very strange sometimes!

hope it clears for the moment,

Giampaolo

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Hi Joe, sorry if I've checked only now your post, I was very busy in the last weeks.
Regarding to coriacea seeds I had the same surprise, that's why today I forwarded your questions to my friend in Brasil.

I expect his feedback asap, and I 'l be back to you as well.

Thanks,

Giampaolo

I have good news and bad news about these seeds. The good news is my ordered arrived quickly, the seeds were in good shape and some germinated quickly. The bad news... well, I'll get to that in a moment.

Annona coriacea:


Annona crassiflora:


Duguetia lanceolata:


I grew each of the three species in three separate tubs. The Duguetia and Crassiflora seeds have not yet germinated, but the tub of Coriacea seeds came up very quickly. As the seedlings grew I was surprised to see two very different looking plants in that tub. I asked some friends who have grown Annona coriacea before, and they said neither one of these look like Coriacea. Perhaps they are Annona squamosa, Annona montana, or some other common Annonas.

I don't think Giampaolo is dishonest, but his friend in Brazil is either a scammer or just very sloppy.







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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Acre.Amazonian. Seeds Of Brazil
« on: March 21, 2017, 07:39:44 AM »
Gustavo, I already sent PM but no answer from you!!!

where have you been?

cheers,

Giampaolo

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Cristiano, puoi provare, ma salvo tu abbia una serra, ad Ancona non c'è umidità e temperatura per molte specie di pouteria.

in bocca al lupo!

Giampaolo

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Annonidium mannii
« on: March 18, 2017, 12:51:49 PM »
Does anyone have any seeds or plants?
Looking for a long time.

It's very rare by now. I have two plants in perfect shape of good quality fruit. I will open an auction in June: stay tuned.

All the best,

Giampaolo

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Dada, I found out: it Naucleopsis glabra. So it's not an annonacea.

Take a look: http://www.nybg.org/science/amazon-program.php

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di dove sei?

Ciao

Giampaolo

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