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Thank you all for the info!

I've come across "Robert Is Here" before so we might visit when we go to the Fruit&Spice park.

Anyone knows any good farmers markets in Ft. Lauderdale or Miami Beach?

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I'll be going to the US for the first time this December and I'm pretty stoked to finally get to see the other side of the Atlantic ocean ;D

Anyhow, I know it definitely isn't the best time for tropical fruit but I'd like to get my hands on whatever is available.
I guess it's peak citrus season but what else should be available that time of the year? I haven't had black sapote yet, they should be ready by December, right? 

I'd also appreciate some suggestions on where to get some good fruit (any place between Cape Canaveral and Key West is okay).

We'll be going to the Fruit & Spice Park in Homestead, is there any other fruit-related place to visit while in SE FL?

Thank you,
Marcus



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: growing mangoes on the Hamakua coast
« on: November 28, 2015, 09:18:00 AM »

Just not sure if the 100% humidity level in the air would on it's own be enough to initiate the anthracnose? So copper spraying might still be occasionally necessary even under tented trees?

High humidity would still encourage anthracnose but the spread from leaf to leaf would lessen so it might be much easier to control with fungicid. I don’t know about dewpoints in Hawaii though, if by night there’s condensention on the leafs the spores would still spread via droplets. I know some uses tree injections of systemic fungicid against anthracnose but I don’t know if that’s applicable to mangoes or if it’s to poisonous for edible crops.

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Just a word of caution. Cold tolerance isn’t just dependent upon minimum temperature but rather a whole array of factors that interact with each other and gives hardiness. Two identical specimens might behave dramatically different given e.g. 20F temps, one might die the other might not show signs of cold stress at all. 

Acclimatization, I would consider to be the most important aspect of hardiness. With the right acclimatization hardiness rises dramatically. Thins like accumulated assimilate during summer, general nutrition etc. also affects hardiness.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« on: November 16, 2015, 12:29:17 PM »

The fruit has a transparent pulp, like glazoviana Myrciaria, however has greater amount of pulp and very sweet. When you bite into the fruit it explodes in your mouth.






it's supposed to be just like strigipes, and glazioviana....but has more edible portion than glazioviana.

once you collect glazioviana, strigipes, and guaquiea...the next step is to find the true Myrciaria glomerata!

it's very rare...looks just like the others in this species complex, but it has red fruits!


Very sweet, better seed:pulp ratio than glazioviana and precocious, sound like it could be a real winner.

Btw nelsedulis all your trees look crazy good, growing plants in their native soil/climate must be such a thrill. Which one of glazioviana and guaquiea do you prefer? Which one seems the most productive?


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« on: November 16, 2015, 11:33:32 AM »
I really like the behavior of the M.guaquiea, upright and "robust" (yeah, not really but in comparison to red jabo who struggles to bear its leaf without bending to the ground) , and not that slow-growing either. Too bad there isn't much info on it, only place I've found anything is in "Brazilian Trees vol.3". Anyone here who've tasted the fruit?

How old is your Luis?

Mine is probably 8-10 months by now.





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Interesting.  I wonder if pouring coconut milk or coconut water on Garcinias would have the desired effect, then.

I don't know for sure but I'm guessing the concentration would be to low for any measurable effects. However, I know for sure coconut milk was used frequently in the TC media before it got replaced by the isolated auxins and cytokinin (if I remember correctly some still use it but to a lesser extent).


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Must-have Loquats
« on: November 15, 2015, 11:33:57 AM »
I've never tried MacBeth. My experience with loquat is pretty limited. I have avri from Adam, sone local white seedlings, and a couple of pretty nice whites from Jim Neitzel. Avri is probably the largest fruit of them.

Did u taste Avri yet?
I'm hoping to see some signs of flower buds from the branches right now. Several other branches are showing bids but not blooming yet. Is there any way to induce flowering?
Don't know specifically how loquat would react but gibberellic acid (primarily GA3) and ethephon (ethylene gas in liquid form) could work.

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I've made an interesting observation that this plant seems to respond well to cytokine treatment. I made an experiment with 4 plants were of 2 were treated with a 30ppm solution of Zeatin with teh hopes that I could stimulate the rate of cell division in the apical meristem. One month later I'm seeing these results:



We'll see what happens in the future but I'm planning on letting the new leafs harden of then applying a second dose of 20ppm. I'll have to experiment more but maybe Garcinas have adapted to produce low amounts of plant hormones and that application on seedlings could speed up initial growth. Would be interesting to see results with GA3 and IAA too.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: E.uniflora - First flowering, at what size?
« on: November 15, 2015, 08:01:36 AM »
I'm pruning my specimen continually to break apical dominance and induce lateral growth. I'm considering experimenting with cytokine instead of pruning to gain bushiness and stem thickening but as of now it's my only E.uniflora so I'm careful atm.

So unpruned at 4ft or if kept low 1" stem seem reasonable.

Adam, keep us updated on the preta, based on the Portuguese I guess its from Brazil? Which one of 'Black Star' and 'Zill Dark' do you prefer?

BTW, I'm taking a class in micro-propagation so it got me thinking of the possibility to tissue culture Eugenia spp. just for fun, anyone know of previous experiments?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: E.uniflora - First flowering, at what size?
« on: November 14, 2015, 12:11:31 PM »
Hi!

My old red surinam cherry tree at age of 4 flowered. She was 1,5 m tall.  I think it does not depend on the size, but also on the age. First the fruits had horrible taste. But it got better year after year.

Sure age is definitely important but I find it quite unreliable given that most of those numbers are conducted from experience growing the species in a native or near-native climate. When the plant’s grown under drastically different conditions it, from my experience, seems to behave differently. I’ve had plants flower way before and ways after the general timeline and it seems to me that there’s a correlation with its size.

I’m not really familiar with the underlying factors of plant senescence but it seems I’ll have to read up on it!

Also what you mention about taste improving with age is quite common with fruit and has to do with improved capacity to produce assimilate.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Wanted: Ultra Dwarf Ambarella
« on: November 14, 2015, 10:39:40 AM »
I had some fruiting trees but sold them all.

The species is spondias dulcis

One of the easiest trees to fruit in a pot...but also one of the least enjoyable to eat.

Don't know when they are in season in Australia (or elsewhere) but I'd very much appreciate to buy a few seeds when they are.

Also, is UD ambarella a variety of Spondias dulcis or is it a different species altogether?

Thank you,
Marcus

Haha, are they really that bad? I'd figure I would like to grow something that fruits extremely fast, just to keep the spirit up until some of my Myrtaceaes start to fruit in a year or two  ;)

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Wanted: Ultra Dwarf Ambarella
« on: November 14, 2015, 10:25:46 AM »
Don't know when they are in season in Australia (or elsewhere) but I'd very much appreciate to buy a few seeds when they are.

Also, is UD ambarella a variety of Spondias dulcis or is it a different species altogether?

Thank you,
Marcus

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / E.uniflora - First flowering, at what size?
« on: November 14, 2015, 08:12:16 AM »
So my 1.5 y.o E.uniflora is finally starting to show a somewhat pleasing rate of growth. Reading up on literature it seems the normal timeframe for first flowering is 2-5 years but being in a northern temperate climate applying these numbers doesn't make much sense. I find it much more applicable to talk about plant size or no. of leafs. So what are your experiences? How large does the plant have to be?

My red E.uniflora seedling from mother plant with pleasant characteristics.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Eugenia itaguahiensis (dwarf grumixama)
« on: October 21, 2015, 04:34:05 PM »
Any updates, how did it perform through summer?

I'd be intreseted in getting this one growing, so let me know if someone have some seeds ;D

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Hovenia dulcis
« on: October 20, 2015, 01:44:45 PM »
Indeed it’s quite a curious tree. I've seen a few decent specimens in Sweden, so it's really hardy too. However, the pseudo-fruit rarely ripens before the first freeze. I'd say it has a “pearish” date taste, but milder. Not something I'd stuff myself with but it's a good snack to grab when walking by. I believe the Japanese make some sort of syrup out of the sap.

 A lot of European online nurseries carries it.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango in pot.
« on: September 10, 2015, 08:51:25 AM »
It sure is possible, with the right care you could grow pretty much anything in a container, but it requires a lot of regular/root pruning - especially in plastic or clay pots. Look at the Japanese, they grow them in 100L fabric containers with pretty amazing results.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Azores - Pictures from my travels
« on: September 05, 2015, 10:15:24 AM »
Well done jackedfruit!
I am glad you enjoyed São Miguel, I hope my advices were useful. Next time come to Pico and I will give you a guided tour! ;)


Thanks Tiago, there's a lot to see and you're advices were most helpful in the selection process of what places to prioritize. Could probably have stayed for a lot longer without ever running out of things to explore!

Please do post some pictures, "one day"  ;), it'd be fun to see what you've got going in-ground on Pico!

In an indefinite future, when I return, I might take you up on that offer!

Keep growing,
Marcus

ADD: Oh, I almost forgot. Do you know what variety of figs it is in the pictures? Brought home a few cuttings so would be nice to know :)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Molix sapodilla
« on: September 05, 2015, 09:48:24 AM »
buddyguygreen, you might find this pdf interesting http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/pdffiles/MG/MG05700.pdf

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Azores - Pictures from my travels
« on: September 05, 2015, 06:01:16 AM »
more...
https://video-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/h...=20fbe90afae88f476afc00b16268e4d6&oe=55E9DDC3

Wow, it seems to be pretty bad. Let's hope there's not to much of an economic damage, the island definitely won't need that!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Azores - Pictures from my travels
« on: September 05, 2015, 05:55:19 AM »
Azores are the only ones in Europe with a commercial production of pineapple

That is not correct. Pineapples are also commercially grown in Canary Islands ;)

Cool pics, thanks for sharing :)


Thanks for the correction Felipe; I did not know there’s a commercialized production in the Canary Islands. You do have a drier (maybe except for La Gomera) and warmer climate there - so are you able to grow them outdoors or is the production in greenhouses there too?

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Temperate Fruit Buy, Sell, & Trade / Re: LF Fig cuttings
« on: September 03, 2015, 02:47:47 PM »
Wanted to update that I am still looking for Fig cuttings but I will consider any named variety you have/are willing to take cuttings from.  Please message or email me if you have any.  Thanks

Now is not the best time for fig cuttings, they are most easily propagated (and the most acessible) during the winter months when the trees are dormant. So check back in January-February and you'll be able to get most of the varieties you mentioned in you first post.

Regarding rooting, it's a no-brainer. Search youtube for "rooting fig cuttings" and you'll be amazed of how small an effort is needed from you  :)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Azores - Pictures from my travels
« on: September 03, 2015, 02:14:01 PM »
jackedfruit - so....would mango do well in the Azores, do you think?

Gary

Gary,

I know forum member "azorean" grows mangoes there but he's on a different island (climates between the nine islands differ quite dramatically). With that said, given a sheltered position, kept low and controlled for anthracnose I'm pretty sure there're varieties that would do well there.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Azores - Pictures from my travels
« on: September 03, 2015, 02:05:29 PM »
Wow, hope you have more pics of your trip, that was a tease :). The Azores is a bucket list trip of mine. I have always wanted to visit many of the Atlantic islands, Bermuda, the Canaries, the Azores, Falklands, and Ascension...one day.


Took a few hundred pics, there's a lot of things and places to immortalize there! In particular, if you ever get there (I'm sure you will), I'd recommend you to visit the Terra Nostra garden in Furnas, the tree fern forest there is quite breath-taking.



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Azores - Pictures from my travels
« on: August 30, 2015, 12:30:22 PM »
Thanks for sharing, even if not plenty of rare fruits.

No opportunity to see the Madeira Blueberry? Vacciinium padifolium?

Is really beautiful. I tried to grow it a few years ago with no success. Looking for seeds :)


http://inaturalist.ca/taxa/342121-Vaccinium-padifolium

Cheers

C


Nope, think that one's endemic to Madeira but Azores have their own endemic Ericaceae,  Vacciunium cylindraceum. They are pretty similar so you could try to grow it and see if you have better success, but it will probably be even harder to get seeds from that one.

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