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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Tree identification - Tree with red fruits
« on: September 28, 2019, 07:51:57 PM »
Crataegus,hawthorn.The fruit is edible but really mild and its mostly groen as decorative tree of wild.
I have 2 on my property wich i protect them so the birds can eat the fruit during winter.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Growing Ice Cream Beans in Containers?
« on: September 28, 2019, 07:48:24 PM »
Honestly the fruit isn't worth extensive effort growing way out of zone unless you are just looking for a challenge.
In a pot you will be lucky to get a pound of fruit after years of effort.
Try buying a few pounds of fruit and eating it. I bought 10 pounds and after eating about 5 pounds to get viable seeds I planted 120 trees as a nitrogen fixing tree to pollard and produce biomass.
It depends on the specie.Somme are better tasting than otthers.
I got an unidentified specie from Costa Rica ( there 60 different sp of Inga growing there).

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Growing Ice Cream Beans in Containers?
« on: September 26, 2019, 07:53:50 PM »
This post interested me enough I just ordered some seeds.  I'm going to try growing one in a large container in my greenhouse.
Il plant them in the greenhouse but in the ground not in pots.
They like water a lot.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Sell guamuchil fresh seeds
« on: September 25, 2019, 07:56:49 PM »
These are verry easy to germinate and grow.
I have a few seedlings of the variety with red flesh.

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Peat moss ,if it gets dry,then it will repell water.I used it as a mulch and got dry ,now it repels water.
Compost i think its a good option ,but depends on the ph of your soil.Sandy silt soil usually has low ph allready and the peat moss is used mostly to lower soil ph for acid loving plants.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Any hardy Proteaceae nut trees?
« on: September 18, 2019, 03:59:57 PM »
Tried Gevuina here in Florida a couple times, and even in somewhat cool shaded locations they died.
It needs acid soil.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: It's National Iguana Awareness Day!
« on: September 16, 2019, 03:44:27 PM »
LMAO!

Imaging a new Jurassic Park movie, and as they are running for their lives, Jeff Goldblum informs everyone "..actually, T-Rex and the Raptors are the original natives of North America (or wherever they happen to be), you should just get used to it".
The fossils iguanas found in Florida are of a more recent age than dinosaurs.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherimoya Fruit Shape
« on: September 15, 2019, 08:20:35 PM »
I think the different shapes of the fruits might be because there are different annona cherimoya subspecies.
The first ones look like pond apple fruit ( annona glabra) ,the middle ones look like annona squamosa( sugar apple) and the last ones look like soursop in shape.
They could also be hybrids not necesarely subspecies or could it be that the fruits take these shapes because of the climate.Pond apple ( annona glabra ) its more cold hardy and likes wet soil,annona squamosa and soursop are more tropical and like drought.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: It's National Iguana Awareness Day!
« on: September 15, 2019, 07:18:58 PM »
I had no idea iguanas are such bad news. Good to know and share with others. 11 in one summer? I would have a gun just to shoot them.

Be carefull not to win a Darwin award  :D

These guys have found iguana fossils in Florida .They were living there long before first people arrived so its wrong to consider them invasive.They are native animals to Florida.
http://www.fipr.state.fl.us/about-us/phosphate-primer/fossils-what-they-tell-us-about-floridas-natural-history/

Possibly true that some iguana may have been in florida in its distant past, but not now.
I am sure that camels are also not native to Florida, and they found camel fossils too (but not the same camels found in the sahara.)

If you look it up, the types of Iguanas (green Iguana) that are a nuisance here now are believed to be non native invasives.  See the link below.
https://myfwc.com/wildlifehabitats/profiles/reptiles/green-iguana/

The comparison with the camels isnt good ,because the camels are from Africa but iguanas native ranges are really cloose to Florida.They are native to the Carribean so its not too far fetched to find fossils of these exact species of iguanas in Florida.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: It's National Iguana Awareness Day!
« on: September 15, 2019, 04:12:11 PM »
I had no idea iguanas are such bad news. Good to know and share with others. 11 in one summer? I would have a gun just to shoot them.

Be carefull not to win a Darwin award  :D

These guys have found iguana fossils in Florida .They were living there long before first people arrived so its wrong to consider them invasive.They are native animals to Florida.
http://www.fipr.state.fl.us/about-us/phosphate-primer/fossils-what-they-tell-us-about-floridas-natural-history/

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Insect Free Tree
« on: September 14, 2019, 09:53:44 PM »
Bowmand has left the building.
Only from that? I wasnt even give the reply to you because ive read your a woman,you like pesticides as much as possible and politics..
I apologise if i somehow offended you but dont be such a drama queen since this is a fruit forum.
Note,i dont wash the lemons in oil to remouve the wax,that was just a sugestion about a cleaning practice that works.
I have experience in cleaning wax/ parrafine because i am a beekeeper and i also boil my wood beehives in wax instead of just painting them.
Ive just ate a rare fruit that nobody on the whoole continent eats it ,without fear,im not too much affraid of pesticides,like normal people but if it says on the label ,, do not eat the peel,, i think its reasonable to follow that.
I am not trying to open the can of worms here and say lemons are poisonous just that i have an opinion- if you have 2-3 lemons,better keep them bio ,as natural as possible with the least possible pesticides treatments.
Id use ladybugs instead of somme chemical poison to treat my trees.

@Millet,im really not overly cautious,just reasonable.Immagine somewhone making jams from the peel of those lemons that have ,,do not eat the skin,, on the label.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Nitraria Schoberi
« on: September 14, 2019, 08:33:12 PM »
cool stuff.  What's the annual rainfall?  Is there fog, dew  or other water source?  Wonder what would happen to these on  a beach in the tropics.
Acording to a source il post at the end of the comment,a related specie,Nitraria Retusa ,is used under trial in Israel with seawater irigation to stabilise the sand.
The weather there in that small desert land its regular zone 6 weather,frost for a few months a year ,high heat in the summer and the eater is saltwater plus oil ( petrol) that floats on the surface of the mud volcanoes- the darker color floating on the mud ,you can see in the pics.
The soil thogh might be warmer from the volcanoes thogh,making the area a milder microclimate than zone 6 .The mud is cold to touch but doesnt freeze that easy in the winter.
Also,the small volcanoes release methane gas and there are even somme ,,live fires,, in the same geologis system.Fires that butn continuously and were lighted by lightning,methane gas,Its really an alien looking place.
https://books.google.ro/books?id=10IMFSavIMsC&pg=PA1116&lpg=PA1116&dq=israel+nitraria+schoberi+seawater&source=bl&ots=7HhTu_K-9S&sig=ACfU3U3LP8iPS2ZZoPNCv5eJpQgyTRrLNw&hl=ro&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwihiPiixtHkAhWtxIsKHZ_oBooQ6AEwC3oECAoQAQ#v=onepage&q=israel%20nitraria%20schoberi%20seawater&f=false
This are the related ,,live fires,, or ,,focul viu,, , where the methane gas got lighted by a lightning.
Where the volcanoes are,there is no fire thogh because the methane gas doesnt have a continuous flow.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Insect Free Tree
« on: September 14, 2019, 07:35:42 PM »
SeaWalnut, the label is not referring to an insecticide, but the caution is because the fruit is washed in a fungicide bath.  Eating the fruit, or using its juice will not harm you in the least.  In my opinion you are being way over cautious. Actually just about all citrus varieties are washed in a fungicide bath, and have a wax coating applied to them, at least in the USA.  By simply washing the fruit in warm water should take care of the situation. However, do what you wish.
Did you see the label ive posted above ,where the producer says ,,do not eat the skin,,.
And your wrong in your statement that you can wash them well because the wax coating used to protect the surface prevents you from washing them even if you would use detergent.
To clean the wax coating you would have to wash the fruits in oil like a regular edible oil to remouve the wax first and after that you can use dishwashing detergent to eash the oil.
Using water to wash the wax thats mixed and covered the poisons would not work because wax and water do not mix,cant be washed.

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Ugni Molinae, i have them in a 60 litters container.

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I highly recommend “Flavor grenade” pluot; my best tasting stone fruits (4) that I grow...
Plum X Apricot hybrids i also consider them the best of stone fruits and on par with Mango.
I have one real big such hybrid eich makes lots of fruit but i only got to eat just 2 fruits this year ,because family was faster than me.

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Manny stone fruits are alternate bearers,making fruits one year and not the next year.This happens in the perfect enviroment for them with enough chill hours.
This year i barely found a hand full of sour cherryes in my little sour cherry forest.But next year year they will have a heavy crop like usual.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Insect Free Tree
« on: September 13, 2019, 03:45:20 PM »
This time i tryed to buy limes from supermarket,instead of lemons.I put them in a bag and right before leaving the fruit sector i see under the limes price tag ,the warning ,,is not recomended to eat the skin,,.
From ,,do not eat the skin,, to ,,its not recomended to eat the skin,, its a short way and probably a marketing trick used to sell their poisonous lemons and limes.
So i got back to the limes box and decided not to buy them since i wanted to use these for cooking trout in aluminum foil and i use the whoole lemon/ limes to flavour the meat.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Nitraria Schoberi
« on: September 13, 2019, 02:59:24 PM »
The seeds look like small alien heads.
They are a funny find, to eat a berry and find such seeds right in that enviroment wich looks and gives you the feeling that you are on another planet.
Add to that the feeling that im the only person on the whoole continent that ate these fruits in present time and i think ive just made the fruit hunting of my life.

I also made liquour from the berryes and it got really good,better than sour cherry liquour.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: red love apples
« on: September 13, 2019, 02:05:33 AM »
I have one red love era apple,the first red love apple made by Markus Kobelt.
Last winter was verry mild and probably because of that it didnt flowered and made fruit this year altough a year before had made a few apples.
Better ask the inventor about low chill of these apples.
I also have a pear with pink flesh.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit Youtube Channel Recommendations
« on: September 12, 2019, 09:52:02 PM »
BushTucker Man series. https://youtu.be/LRcn_uj0ySw

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Annona cherimoya flowering question
« on: September 11, 2019, 02:08:16 PM »
You have to polinate them by hand.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Nitraria Schoberi
« on: September 09, 2019, 09:24:40 AM »
I found and ate the Nitraria Schoberi.
They were overripe and dryed and probably taste better when they are red not black.
They are sweet like an apple ,verry slightly sour almost not noticeable,somme are indeed salty and at the end they are slightly bitter.The bitterness is in the skin but i hope when they are not overripe they wont have it.
In this dryed state they have an aroma of smoked plum jam.The smoke is also slightly bitter.

Didnt found any scorpions but still had fun and i let the pictures speak for themselves.








Look at the roots how they stabilise the soil.The pool of mud is a mud volcanoe,like a small gheiser.














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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Do worms eat rice?
« on: September 08, 2019, 05:39:29 PM »
Rice is what they like the most.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Nitraria Schoberi
« on: September 08, 2019, 05:34:48 PM »
The results of somme research on Nitraria fruits and leaves compounds.Seems like it is a verry healthy fruit.https://www.spandidos-publications.com/10.3892/mmr.2014.2677

And here i finally found info about when the fruits get ripe.
Because its such a rare and forgotten fruit,it was hard to find even such basic information ,that they fruit rippens in August-September.
,,Ecological, biological and phytocoenological peculiarities. Grows in lower mountain belt, at the altitude of 700–800 meters above sea level, mostly in moist saline soils. Flowering from May to July, fruiting from August to September.,,

Tomorrow i plan to go and see if i find any fruit.

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These are 2 different mango trees.One of them is the exact copy of the mother tree and its just like having a grafted tree that will make the same fruit identical.
Its called polyembrionic seed.
Wich is wich i dont know,but i would try to separate and grow both .

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