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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Verry rare walnut
« on: January 04, 2020, 09:27:09 PM »
Usually first fruits are smaller.

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A really odd one would be Kadsura.
And another really odd and rare tree would be the walnuts that makes giant nuts.I made a blog abou them here.http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=31686.0

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Forget about the black walnut and choose carpathian walnut if you want to eat the nuts.If you want to plant a native to USA walnut type,then plant the butternut instead of the black walnut.
The butter nut ( juglans cinerea) fruits a lot faster than the black walnut,its threatened with extinction unlike the black walnut and its the tastyest walnut wirh second being the carpathian and the black walnuts are at the bottom of the list.
Loquat is a nice fruit tree.
Ugni( chilean guava) its fast growing and you can breed it easy .
Mini kivis are also nice .
Kaki and american persimmons plus the texas persimmon are well suited for your climate.
Pawpaw was allready mentioned.
You can also grow almonds,cherryes,plums,apricots,peaches.

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Seaweeds are like meat because algae are not plants but protists wich have all the ,,essential aminoacids,, found in meat and not found in plants.
Those aminoacids decompose into amines( cadaverine,putrescine,etc) wich give the algae a rotting smell just like meat .

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Seaweeds contain a lot of iodine.Also a lot of iron and heavy metals like arsenicum.
But i think its the iodine that ,,makes the citrus trees explode,, .

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I'm growing a 100 foot food/hedge 'Fedge' using an edible leaf plant called "Katuk" (Sauropus androgynus). The best edible part of the plant is the tender young tips so pruning and harvesting greens happens at the same time. These were planted from seedlings on 2 ft centers. They grow quickly but I have been cutting them back regularly to develop low branches. I'd like to get these to grow together and prune them tight beside the driveway. They do make small white seeds.





That an interesting plant and i wonder how does it tastes?
On wikipedia it also says it makes edible and palatable fruits but that the leaves and young shots taste better.
Im trying to grow Toona Sinensis for the leaves and shots but thats a big tree and altough verry exotic its temperate.
The leaves taste like fryed beans with a little pepper and roasted onions.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Affect of seeds on flavor in cherimoya
« on: January 01, 2020, 09:43:59 PM »
The claim that I heard, just once, is that developing seeds exude growth regulators that affect pulp quality.  I don't remember the source.
Thats exactly what happens to the hogh end pollination variant persimmons.The seeds exude a dark substance wich   makes the fruit good to eat when its not fully ripe( hard) and it also impart that walnuts like flavor to the fruit.
 It makes the pulp of the persimmon brown and the more seeds ,the more brown and more tasty it is.
Fruit from the same tree that has no seeds its totally different,has orange pulp not brown and cant be eaten when its not fully ripe,needs to become mushy.Also the taste its mild ,like cartboard with somme sugar on it  ;D.
Look pollination variant persimmons if your interested in this.
And if its true for persimmons,doesnt have to be true for annona .Different species differ a lot but i think there is something related to the seeds wich imparts a better taste to the majority of fruits.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: ID Please: Fruit, Nut, Weed?
« on: January 01, 2020, 09:34:28 PM »
I cut the it open and a big seed, as expected, but was surprised to see it juicy.  It's also relatively thick skinned.  I tasted it with the tip of my tongue and it was pleasantly acidic.  Not sour like a lemon and not sweet per se.

Here's a picture of it cut open, if that helps at all.


There is no way to be even closedly related to walnuts or anything in that genus.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Happy New Year.
« on: January 01, 2020, 01:03:27 AM »
Happy New Year ,health,good luck and great satisfaction from our nice nice hobby/job of working with plants!

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Blackberry (Rubus sp)
« on: December 31, 2019, 12:44:10 AM »
Yikes. Y’all are scaring me!
Well, I put 4 vines in the ground about 4 feet apart. They are relatively close to my muscadines.
If they produce good fruit I hope I will be willing to do what it takes to keep them in check.

I grow Passiflora incarnata which pops up all over the place. I just pull them up or mow them and it doesn’t seem to be an issue. Though they are not thorny :)

I actually received a bonus vine and planted in a another area far away. Will be interesting to see how it does.
After watching how well you take care of your garden i dont think youl have problems with blackberryes taking over your yard.
You will have to learn to prune them i think every spring.
For what delicious fruit they are ,its worth the maintenance.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: ID Please: Fruit, Nut, Weed?
« on: December 30, 2019, 05:51:44 PM »
Could be coffee?

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I think im lucky here in Romania because the post and customs cant handle the big ammount of packages and they dont usually inspect small packages wich they think are too cheap to worth calling the recipient( in case it doesnt say on the package that there are seeds there).

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Found these chinese copyes of russian pumps for just 30 dollars.For this incredibly low price  you get a brand new pump that beats the best Shurflo .
Its still worth buying it even as a chinese copy in case you want to replace the aluminum wire of the coils with copper wire.That way you get a pump that could last maybe 50 years.
The downside its the noize if its not under water and in a well and also its heavy and shakes a lot,could break concrete and plastic tubes over time.
https://m.aliexpress.com/item/32922553990.html?trace=wwwdetail2mobilesitedetail

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This one is solar and has good reviews in USA.https://www.ebay.com/itm/24-V-DC-Submersible-Deep-DC-Solar-Well-Water-Pump-Solar-Battery-Diaphragm-Pump/232111319302?epid=1364885535&hash=item360ae9a906:g:8fUAAOSwrx1cfizN
Its a diaphragm pump like the Shurflo submersible diaphragm pump wich costs 600 dollars.

I like it because its solar but both pumps,the chinese and Shurflo are just toys compared to the russian pump with no motor and no bearings.
Surprisingly,the russian pumps,real hardcore pumps with no motor and no bearings,heavy, made from thick metal ,cost less than even the chinese one.
Hard to buy them original because of the trade wars and such.

Check this link to see im not the only crazy that thinks this is the best diaphragm pump in the world.A man that got it broken and he took a lot of time and effort to remake the coil and fix it because couldnt find where to buy them .
Amazing,gave me idea to buy a chinese copy of the russian pump and replace the aluminum coil with copper wire.( ive tryed that before but i melted the pump aluminum casing trying to extract the coil wires.
https://lordovervolt.com/water-pump

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Affect of seeds on flavor in cherimoya
« on: December 28, 2019, 06:58:45 AM »
I do not know about cherimoya, but my personal saying is "No seeds=No flavor." If a fruit has seeds in it, I find that the vast majority of the time, it is more flavorful than a seedless variety of the same fruit. I would tend to agree with the "More seeds=More flavor" maxim, as well.

I had two pomelos recently, purchased from the grocery. The first one was seedless and tasted very good. The second one had almost thirty seeds, and it tasted excellent, with a strong flavor and a good mix of sweetness and acidity and without a single trace of bitterness.

And do not get me started on seedless watermelons! That is a perfect example of "No seeds=No flavor."
A good example are the polination variant kakis.
If they have seeds,they are tasty and brown and non astringent. But if they dont have seeds they dont get brown,stay orange and are astingent ,not verry tasty when fully ripe .

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Anti Fungal from weed teas
« on: December 27, 2019, 08:00:12 PM »
SeaWalnut, could you explain how you make your weak chamomile tea solution? I searched (admittedly briefly) online for using chamomile tea as a fungicide, and the one site that gave specifics said to steep it for 10 minutes, which doesn't sound weak to me. Thanks!
You make a cup of tea from one or 2 teabags ,let it set for 10 minutes then you can dilute that with up to 2 litters of water but i use just one litter of water per teabag.
It is clear almost like water,thats why i say a ,,weak solution,, but it beats copper at highest dose where you actually paint the plants or seeds blue.
Try the Chamomille tea,you wont regret and you will convince yourself its the best antifungal,the #1.
You can also drink it and its delicious and you can use normal strength tea for plants treatment as well.
It kills phytophora instant in one go.
Chamomille its an european plant ( 2 plants actually,bothe equally good) and its not much known in USA but here its the most famous tea since prehistory or ancient times,roman times,etc.
Basically ,here if you say you never drinked Chamomille tea its like saying that you never drinked tea in your life,thats how common it is.
Dentists use it instead of water for mouth wash when they work,hospitals use it extensively .Its serious stuff that you can drink 3 times a day just for the taste wich resembles the taste of honney.
Another good antifungic but a lot weaker and messy its cinnamon powder.Not worth to use it since Chamomille its cheaper,easyer to use and a lot stronger.
Neem oil its an insecticide not antifungal.
You can also buy a small dose of copper and a box of chamomille tea and test to see it yourself that chamomille its a better antifungic than copper.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Inga pollination question
« on: December 27, 2019, 07:49:46 PM »
My inga vulpima is self fertile. I got fruits this year with only one tree...
Thx Luis.I know your Inga Vulpina.Good to know is self fertile.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Inga pollination question
« on: December 27, 2019, 06:14:56 PM »
Im left only with one seedling and i wonder if they are selfpollinating or do they need another plant?
Its an unknown specie of Inga and i dont think i can get another one from the same specie.
Would they cross polinate with otther Inga species?

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Here’s a great video from Migro. Migro is a light seller so take his info with a grain of salt but he is amongst the most comprehensive indoor light reviewers. He clearly shows how he takes his light readings and he will not hide the fact that other lights have higher efficiency or PAR output than his own brand.

He also references research papers and interviews professionals in the industry like Erik Runkle of Michigan State University. This is a very general overview of plant lights.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oK8e5bgqgT8

Here’s another video with Bruce Bugbee
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=X1O3OD-dI20

Simon
The PAR itself its not acurate since a PAR meter measures blue and red light but it will not tell you how much blue and how much red for a given PAR value.
You can measure a blue light and that will give you a high PAR value but if you try to grow plants with only blue light ,no matter how high the PAR value,those plants wil die of light starvation.
An example of a bulb that has 50 % blue and 50 % red light  comparef to a 100% red light bulb,they will have the same PAR but the only red one will grow plants much better since plants use verry little blue and mostly red light.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Soil pH near house foundation
« on: December 26, 2019, 07:44:55 PM »
My trout pond its build from thick concrete and the water has 12 ph after more than 10 years.
I stopped using that water to water trees except almonds wich can handle high ph verry well.
The ammount of buffer thats in that water after sitting a year in the concrete basin its high.
But on the river bed near my house there are big cement( concrete) dams wich have low ph ,as low as 5 because they get washed away by rain water and there is acid loving flora and sphagnum moss growing on those concrete plates.
You can try to seal the concrete with liquid glass,sodium silicate and that should stop the leeching.
Its also an amazing substance that turns into real glass and cheap to buy if you can find it.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Greenhouse heating invention
« on: December 26, 2019, 06:46:16 PM »
 I made a tube feeder for wood wich failed ( not the one in the pictures,another one).
I filled it with wood kindling,all was working great and was selffeeding well,then i got to the shop to buy somme Coca Cola,let it to burn  not supervised and when i returned the dome greenhouse was full of smoke.
The tube got heated and the air on the exterior created a draft and it burned all the wood from the feeder indoor.
I was lucky that the greenhouse didnt caught on fire  ;D.
But thats it.Ive had enough with these kindling and branches feeders.Next il build an auger feeder and i will buy a small wood chipper so that i will heat with wood chips.
The stainless steel keg its too small to transfer the heat in time but chilled with the fan works really great and the exhaust its really at room temperature.
Now im working on a metal jacket from verry thin aluminum plates that will cover the barrel leaving a gap in wich the air will flow to chill the barrel.
The perlite and stainless steel rebar failed because of the high temp.The stainless steel rusted after 2 weeks and the perlite clay tube was so fragile and cracked that had to be replaced with an insulated stainless steel tube.
Ive ordered somme really nice refractory blanket for the riser tube.
The Ytong brick shrinked and cracked but otther than that its doing great and whitstands the high temperatures.

From these single use plates i build the metal jacket to guide the air flow similar to a forced air colled motor cylinder ( like a Trabant ;D).


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After i burned probably 15 pumps with my well,german pumps,expensive romanian pumps, cheap chinese pumps,i finally opted for a russian pump that has no motor and no bearings,no oil inside it that can leak in case of failure( expensive pumps have oil aroind the coils).
I made a blog about these pumps on Permies. https://permies.com/t/131308/Russian-diaphragm-pump-motor-bearings

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: To use GA3 for flower/retention.
« on: December 26, 2019, 11:04:52 AM »
Google somme studyes about the use of gibberellic acid for pollination for the particular plant specie you want to use it.
You will have to use a much weaker solution than that for germinating seeds and you will not get elongated shots.
Also the seeds in the fruit might be smaller and non developed from the use of gibberellic acid.

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In my case, I wasn't willing to have fan noise since this light set-up is inside my house. The quantum boards are effectively just a COB light with a different lay out - instead of the diodes circling around a stalk and being reflected downward by the housing, the LEDs are directly facing down on a big fat panel. This is also good for cooling, since they aren't stacked all around each other. They are mounted to an extruded, anodized aluminum heat sink that gets better light distribution and cooling. A lot of the COB rigs are really expensive if you're buying them commercially a la Timber. Homebrew like Brad is pretty decent pricing.

With the two 260w boards I have, the boards and the heatsink barely get warm - it's just the driver that runs even slightly hot. It's kind of a bummer actually cause I wanted some ambient heating in my house from them...

There are so many ways to do this. You can even just buy some cheap fluorescent bulbs from Home Depot and have a bunch of little work lamp housings, which is probably sufficient and cheapest. I plan to use my lights for other endeavours later on, so I wanted something higher end than that, and also didn't want some weird aesthetic in the corner of my house... Though I guess it's still weird since it glows like the gotdamn sun.  8)

The better LEDs will have some of the Infrared spectrum but from what I understand, it does not contain UV. The papers or videos I saw showed that T5, Metal Halide and HPS give off some UV but they are giving off UV A and the plants want more UV B. There was something being mentioned about a one to thirty ratio of UVB to UVA, respectively, that natural sunlight gives off but I don’t remember the exact figures.

A lot of the information regarding UV requirements out there is geared towards growing medicinal flowers and the UV light is supposed to increase THC levels. More research needs to be done to see what role UV light plays in the everyday life of tropical fruit trees grown under artificial lighting.

Simon
LEDs have UVA at the and of the UV spectrum but its harmless and reads zero on my pretty accurate UV meter with the ,,UV ,, led glued on the sensor.
On the otther hand,all light emitters that are made of glass,neon tubes,MH,HID and even the old incandescent lamp ,they all have quite a serious ammount of UVB and UVC.
Neon tubes are used in the brozing saloons for womens that have such a high output that it tans the human body.
Various UV sterilisers bulbs are also made from neon tubes or they have a glass bulb ,a HID or a MH,etc.
You will never see LED as UV sterilisers or in bronzing saloons because LEDS are made of plastic( somme parts are) and the UV light breaks down plastic fast.
There are a few exceptions of glass LEDs that cost 300 dollars one small one and that lasts only 1000 hours ,that are true UV LEDs.
But those are curiosityes not really good for practical use.
So any LED cant have more better spectrum than a HID.
The HID has UVB and UVC while the leds dont.
And the substances that are used to glow light are the same in LEDs and HIDs and T5,sodium for yellow,mercury for blue and various otthers.
I now use cob LEDs for grow lamps but they are inferior by far to a HID.
When i used to grow corals ( photosynthetic animals) at home i learned a lot about grow lamps and the strongest growth response to light ive seen was in MH lighted aquarium and second ( my friend) T5HO.
All reef aquariums with LEDs have good growth also but the most sensitive corals were grown with MH and T5HO incomparable better ( from another league).
My friend pays 200 dollars a month only on the electric current from the aquarium lamp and also has to change all the tubes at every 10 months.If Leds were soo good he would have switched to LEDs but he tryed and they failed.
This is the T5HO lamps aquarium. https://youtu.be/DbDCdHYT-Gw
Youl never find anything close to this that has grown on LED lamps.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Anti Fungal from weed teas
« on: December 26, 2019, 03:37:53 AM »
What can I use for peach leaf curl besides copper?

A weak Chamomille tea beats copper sulphate at maximum concentration allowed .
If you Chamomille tea as antifungic it is washed away by rain but so does the copper( copper sulphate with buffer= bordelaise juice).
Ive tested the Chamomille tea on various fungus types and molds from seeds and it really is the best.
You can spray a weak solution of this tea on any plant,tender seedling,seeds that got mold ,etc and its verry cheap.
In Europe its used in hospitals to breathe the tea vapors and cure the human body from Tuberculosis and otthe fungi caused diseases.
I wonder if i plant the Chamomille near the tree if it would have an antifungic affect on the tree near by.

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