Sure, I've seen sprouted coconuts sold in IKEA before. They'll survive until someone buys them.

I'm guessing you meant in CA without a heated greenhouse?

Avri to me seems like a low-acid variety. I tasted it under ripe and it was not very tart. I think Big Jims is like this.

The thing about Jim's varieties is that they can be super tart if they're not ripe. I'm thinking the acid plays a major role in their flavor being better than the normal varieties. I remember him bringing fruits to a cherimoya grafting workshop at Jim Bathgate's house one year. There were 6 varieties and all of them were really tart and I didn't like any of them. Then years later I asked for some scions and he gave me some fruits along with the scions and those were very sweet and flavorful. After several years of trying I managed to get a couple of them to stick on my tree.

I've tried one of the huge loquats in China and it's pretty bland. I don't know if it's natural or what the grower had to do to push the fruit to that size. It probably caused the blandness.

I think you pretty much have to graft your own Avri, unless you live close enough to get one from Adam.

It's probably said in the video, the trees will be okay for some time and then will need to be retreated.

I finally crudely dug it up one day and put it in a pot with from fresh soil and coffee grounds (fresh, not used) just to see what would happen. After a year or so now it's bright green and doubled in size, but no fruit yet.

Wouldn't the caffeine in the coffee inhibit the plant? I know there are nutrients in coffee, but there's also caffeine. I saw a comparison with coffee and tomato plants and the one in coffee ended up small. Just wondering if you have more insight into this.

Great post and worth the read! For people in a hurry, I highlighted the recommended plants.

They include California poppies, ceanothus, sage and St.Catherine’s lace buckwheat (Erigonium giganteum).
“It’s especially good to plant flowering plants that are composites or from the Asteraceae family, which have shallow flowers that most natural enemies can feed from,”

The various varieties of California buckwheat, goldfields and tidy tips are good examples of flowering plants to attract beneficial predators. Another that Irvin mentioned is California poppies, because this heavy pollen producer attracts ladybugs, lacewings and hoverflies. Plus, they reseed and come back year after year. Sweet alyssum and common buckwheat also work well if you prefer non-native annuals.

Irvin also recommends letting herbs go to flower, such as coriander and dill, because they attract a lot of beneficial insects.

Okay, you get 12 inches there, we get 18 inches in LA.
I did buy RO filtered water from the water machines for a few years to water my miracle fruit. It was about a gallon a week.

Just grow them like normal plants. You might need to slowly harden them off to the environment.

Dragonfruit? Pineapple?

I don't remember how it tasted. I heard that people liked it at some later Irvine tastings. Mine hasn't fruited yet.

Quote from: fyliu on October 25, 2017, 01:58:13 PM

Quote from: JF on October 25, 2017, 01:52:16 PM

Cherimoya killer

That's just the cherimoya genetics showing through, haha.

Wrooong! 80% sugar apple

Then I think this is the annona for people in the tropics.

Best to grow many seeds for better odds. Hopefully it tastes good. Still a win if it doesn't require manual pollination.

For flavor, cherimoya.

Here are some reasons for liking atemoya:
1. Can't grow cherimoya
2. Cultural (Vietnamese, Taiwanese, others?)
3. Larger size

ExpertPruning.com, you can find atemoya fruits in Vietnamese shops in Little Saigon in Orange County.