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Sapodilla doesn't seem to have a large root system. It's one of the few seedlings I grow where the top is much larger than the container (pint). It's not getting root-bound.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: How common is this?
« on: October 03, 2017, 01:45:33 PM »
Are they just crown slips or actually multiple crowns that grew at the same time?

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Thanks for the tip, Patrick. The post office is making it really expensive to ship things around. That's even cheaper than domestic thick envelope.

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Why do you want the giant varieties? It's said to not be better than the small ones. I don't grow any giant variety. I'm just wondering.

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Thanks guys for your reply. I live in Canada unfortunately. So I wish somebody would not mind the hassle and mail me 10 fresh seeds.

Thanks
Do you know of any cheap shipping method from US to Canada? First class package is $9.50, and international flat rate is $25 for the smallest box. Ouch! Domestic package is only $2.67 for the first 4 ounces.

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Main season is normally around November for SoCal. The collection in Irvine (not part of UC Irvine) always has tastings in mid-January. Looks like it's doing that again for 2018. Fruit quality suffered there for the last 3 years.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Looking for Dragonfruit Cuttings
« on: September 25, 2017, 01:57:18 AM »
MarMar123 and Marmar321? Dang, must have posted, lost the account right after, made a new account, and posted again 34 minutes later.

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JF and Beach2Bush (or Bush2Beach) sold scions before. Fruits ripen a little later than now. With SoCal Warming, who knows. Everything's coming in early this year.

Where are you located? It's a bigger hassle to go to the post office for international mail. Domestic I just print the label at home and give it to the mail carrier.

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They're not going to be true from seed. There's a good chance seedlings will taste pretty decent if you don't compare them directly to the top varieties.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Can cherimoya grow in Vietnam?
« on: September 22, 2017, 01:33:37 AM »
So if cherimoya can grow but not set fruit in the tropics, then I guess it wouldn't help to graft cherimoya onto the better adapted sugar apple rootstock.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Can cherimoya grow in Vietnam?
« on: September 21, 2017, 03:37:53 AM »
I think Mikey is waiting for growers in tropical areas to tell him what happens if there's no chill hours. Will it die or just not set fruit.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: mycorrhizal inoculant
« on: September 20, 2017, 06:20:58 PM »
Kind of true. Fungi secrete substances that inhibit and kill bacteria. Scientists analyze the substances, find ways to synthesize them, and patent them. Companies make lots of money selling antibiotics.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: mycorrhizal inoculant
« on: September 20, 2017, 03:07:57 PM »
Will good compost tea made with a bubbler compare at all to these types of products?
I've read that compost tea(&genetics obviously) are the secret behind giant veggie champions
Compost tea is raw material that's been broken down by bacteria. Let's face it, the bacteria will probably all die after the compost is used up. You need to apply it frequently to get the giant veggies.

Mycorrhizae are spores of fungi that can form symbiotic relationships with plant roots, which increases the plant's ability to gather raw materials from the soil. So you tend to apply it once when you plant the tree, and that's it.

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There's a video recently demonstrating squeezing of the flowers to pollinate. It may be what Bhkkatemoya posted.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pineapples--The Half Pot Experiment
« on: September 19, 2017, 01:03:59 PM »
I'm surprised about the pineapple frost damage in Burbank -- I don't get frost damage on my potted pineapples here in the East Bay in Northern California.  How cold was it when the pineapples got damaged?
I think the lowest temps in Burbank last winter was in the high 30s. But it depends on the cloud cover. We don't have a lot of moisture here except during the winter rain season. It sounds protective except the clouds can clear up right after a rain and it can get cold. Putting the plants under a tree canopy will protect them.

It seems that a lot of the pineapple growers here in S. California prefer pots, at least by gleaning the inputs in this thread.  I started mine in pots and they are doing fine after 1-2 years.  I have been thinking about putting them in the ground.  Based on the opinions in this thread, I think I will just repot mine in larger pots instead of putting them in the ground.  I am in the San Gabriel area for reference.

Having them in pots allows you to move them under something during the winter to protect against frost damage. I first heard of this method from Adam, who suggested putting them in 3 gal pots is good. Larger pot might be better for the plant/pineapple size, but smaller pot is easier to move around and you can fit more plants in the same space.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: White Jade Pineapple
« on: September 18, 2017, 01:57:23 AM »
Of the white jade plants I got from Adam, only one has extra growth. It has a sucker at the bottom of the plant and 3 at the base of the fruit. The other 3 just have fruit only. 1 I gave away died.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pineapples--The Half Pot Experiment
« on: September 16, 2017, 02:21:30 AM »
I meant nature as in the desert doesn't like pineapples. Even the ground in some places don't like pineapples, like my parents' front yard. That's why I had to grow them in pot, and water them, and protect them against frost in the winter. I've had severe frost damage to a plant and another dead from frost before.
I think you folks near the coast don't have these issues. It's like Hawaii, everything just grows.

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The grapes could possibly be against the west wall of the house, or beside the figs in the east property line. Passionfruit could be there as well, but I personally don't like passionfruit against the house. They are evergreen, and I like to clean out the growth that's next to the house if anything's growing close to a wall. Grapes will go dormant so I can clean them out in the winter.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Successful Fruit Growers in Vegas?
« on: September 12, 2017, 02:26:20 PM »
Any idea if those quails are good for eating? I saw lots of them at my friend's neighborhood on one of the hottest days of the year. It was 117 outside that day. He lived SE of the strip, not sure if that's Henderson.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best tree for shallow soil?
« on: September 12, 2017, 02:09:56 PM »
You're basically growing a bonsai tree. Probably many things can work, with more maintenance work. Soil dries up faster, etc..

You might have to cut the taproot of the tree. Then provide support for the branches so the heavy top doesn't fall over without the taproot.

Some plants really like their taproots, so those won't work.

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Bonita creek nursery also has a huge selection. Plus he's always experimenting and has interesting/unusual crosses on the side that he sometimes will part with. I like exotica and champa and mimosa as well but Bonita creek always has interesting things and great variety, for all your various tree needs
Does he still have those exotic birds? I've been there once. It's kind of hard to get to from what I remember. David Archer is a really nice guy to talk to. Really nice about helping out the local fruit club.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Green mart nursery
« on: September 11, 2017, 07:27:18 PM »
I hope it's better than expected. Cherimoya seedlings often turn out quite good, unlike things like apples. I'm just frustrated to not know exactly what variety these things are.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Green mart nursery
« on: September 11, 2017, 02:44:13 PM »
Sorry to add to the confusion. I would just ignore my rant below.
It's like them saying "It's what you WANT it to be".
I've seen Taiwan atemoya, Vietnamese atemoya, Australian atemoya. Who know which, if any of them, might be mislabeled or some random seedling from those places. If you like local, get the [your country] atemoya. If you like exotic, get the [other country] atemoya. My Australian fruits so that's good I guess.

I think with vague labels, Vietnamese are more likely to buy from Vietnamese sellers, Taiwanese are more likely to buy from Taiwanese sellers. After all, if your countrymen like it, chances are, you will like it. It's how my mom bought overpriced atemoyas and now I'm regrafting the non-fruiting dud into something else.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Seedless atemoya and cherimoya
« on: September 11, 2017, 02:29:41 PM »
Haha, is that the citrus definition of seedless?

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