I think all cherimoya growers would have extra seeds. Cherimoya season is Nov - May for me.

I have seedlings popping out of the ground now. But they're from my unknown varieties so it may not be worth growing unless you graft.

I wonder how few plants Jason Nursery will sell to me if I visit them during Xmas.

Simon, I'm not a biologist but maybe someone would need to figure out which enzyme to use on the DNA that can show some differences between known cultivars, then test the unknowns to see which one it matches.

To import you just need to apply for a permit and arrange to have it shipped bareroot to you, with an intermediate destination to a USDA inspection station. It'd be subject to a 2 year quarantine period where it needs to be kept 3m away from other plants. You'd have to schedule inspections something like once a year and pay whatever inspection fees there is.

I know several CRFG members in San Diego that are interested in importing seedless lychees from Jason Nursery from China. It seems like a lot of liability to be the one doing the tree sitting for 2 years though.

Mike T, I wonder how many types of seedless lychees exist.

Definitely, spagnum peat and moss seem to repel water when they're totally dry. It can take a while before water can get to the core of it depending on container size.

Samuel, I think almost nobody around you  know what to do with a mango tree. There's a chance people will see the fruits but they probably won't believe what they are.

In the US some people won't eat things unless you give them familiar names like Surinam "cherry". Pitanga sounds poisonous to them.

Oh it's winter. That makes sense. I see one plant got much thicker at the top and didn't look like one that's been indoors too long. If it's cold, reduce watering.

Yes, try to use a lighter soil mix. years ago I put my first dragonfruit cuttings in normal dense garden soil and after 2 years it didn't grow much and the roots were barely able to penetrate a couple inches. If your soil is like mine then you might consider growing them in containers. A friend of mine tried digging a big hole and replacing the soil but it still didn't do as well as his potted ones.

These look great! I like that you have the pot sizes in the descriptions. What are the chances that some of these will do well in California?

I forgot to say that the real cultivars made it here and people went and got them directly.

I don't doubt the authenticity of most cultivars. The example I gave is perhaps the only one that's officially restricted from propagation since whenever the communists took over. Nurseries outside or even in China can't know the exact source of the plants.

Even so, I would still want to grow out a few on the off chance that they are the real thing.

I think where you're at in SoCal, you actually do have to worry about over watering. But here, it's so stinkin hot in the summer that humans don't survive without a/c, birds actually pant like dogs, and plants wilt just by thinking about the sun!

But putting the plant under a large tree doesn't cool it down much over there? It's what I do here for all the freshly cut airlayers and such. My default mindset is "life support" rather than "give it fresh air and sunshine".

We do get cold ocean current from Alaska so our wind is cool if it blows in the right direction.

Sorry for the confusion. Right, the "don't overwater" should not be done as a single thing.

If your tree looks dry there are a number of possibilities:
1. the roots are not getting enough water
2. there aren't enough roots to absorb the water loss from sun and wind
3. the roots are mostly dead from previous neglect and it's not going to absorb enough no matter how much you give it

Without knowing what's going on, the general advice that solves all 3 cases are:
1. water once very deeply
2. put it in a cool location and give it high humidity, such as enclosing in a large platic bag under a large shade tree
3. don't overwater. Perform this step after you have done the above.

The thing I do for drying wind and heat in my Burbank patio is put the plant really close to other plants. I'm using the miracle fruit bush to protect the yangmei, leaves touching. I know someone doing the same for carambolas too but he was low on planting space.

Photos of Ben Porier's lucuma fruits from the other thread do show what look like the nice ones.

I don't know too much about his dad but Alex did say his dad was collecting some good varieties of these.