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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: foliar spray
« on: September 25, 2017, 02:50:27 PM »
The nutricote is good but unless you are buying a 50lb bag you are paying too much for it. Get an 8lb bag of osmocote plus on amazon or walmart for 15-20$ instead of 2lb of nutricote for the same price.

Also you dont really need to fertilize when its cold and the plants are slowed down or dormant.  I wont be fertilizing again until trees start flushing in spring. Maybe some osmocote for my potted plants but in ground trees dont need anything for a while it will just get washed out and wasted over the wet cold season.

Are your trees in the ground or in pots?

Ive had excellent results with osmocote plus.  Inputs and frequency can vary depending on soil analysis and also if trees are of bearing age.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Post-Hurricane Tree Recovery
« on: September 25, 2017, 02:46:06 PM »
New leaves on just about everything--two weeks after Hurricane Irma blew through.  I've watered a lot, and we've gotten decent rain.

Ive been misting with copper too which has noticeably helped.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Post storm venting
« on: September 17, 2017, 12:35:04 AM »
Take some of those record profits from the 10s of billions they make and reinvest into the infrastructure (like Jeff mentioned) especially at strategic locations.  Comcast is notoriously bad about this.  Maybe scale back some of the executive bonuses... Does anyone know if FPL benefits from any state or federal taxpayer subsidies?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Staking Trees for Wind?
« on: September 13, 2017, 10:34:45 PM »
As the storm approached I got some last minute advise from a friend to prune as much as possible.  So I ran outside and began handpruning everything.  The cuts were quick and severe, no time for tipping or thinking. I got through it just as the outer bands arrived.  When I was done they resembled sticks but surely looked more prone to survive. I watched many get blown down one way and then the other way after the eye.  All of the trees took one hell of a beating but somehow managed to remain in the ground and not shear.  Since the storm I have staked ever tree that needed support and have begun spraying copper.  Water is subsiding but still flooded areas.  My collection of jackfruit and annonas will probably succomb to the flooding.  I would bet that some mangoes if not many will hopefully make it (survive 150mph!).  I think the key will be mitigating disease/fungus at this point.  Unfortunately while I was pruning I couldn't help but notice all of the black spot that I was haphazardly spreading from one tree to another.  No time for proper sanitation to disinfect between trees just wipe blade with shirt and move on to next one.


Lesson learned:  prune the heck out of any tree you care about prior to hurricane,


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Staking Trees for Wind?
« on: September 13, 2017, 09:41:39 PM »
Good Luck Marley !
Are you staying in Naples ?

Ed

I got mine staked !

I went ahead and removed most of the stakes throughout the farm in hopes that the trees get pushed over rather than snap at the tie point.  I do however have 200 stakes on hand for the aftermath if there's anything left.  Wife and kids are in GA with inlaws.  I'm going to weather the storm with my dad at the farm.  Hopefully the house will hold up.  It is new block/stemwall/tiebeam, 4/12 hip roof, impact windows and doors, truss straps so we'll see.  We do have a portable generator.  You guys?
Marley, stay safe.  Looks like you guys on the west coast (of FL) are getting the worst of this.
Take care of yourself.

We got slammed.  House ok, farm not good.  Total loss remains to be seen because there is still flooding. vegetation destroyed everywhere.  Crazy last few days a lot of work non stop, very tiring.

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Awesome your trees made it.  Was there a buffer protecting them?  The heavy stuff was East Northeast at our place.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Category 4 Hurricane Irma
« on: September 13, 2017, 09:30:45 PM »
Just wanted to report our farm got the worst of Irma and it has destroyed so much vegetation in Naples.  150mph wind direct hit from east eyewall.  House made it through with some minor soffit and roof shingle repair.  Total damage to 300 newly planted fruit trees remains to be seen. Rolling up the blinds and watching this storm through impact windows during the daytime was an experience.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Post Hurricane Recovery
« on: September 08, 2017, 12:15:53 AM »
During Hurricane Isaac, my Bangkok Lemon tolerated flooding well.  My Ox Sapodilla, died from flooding.

Maybe the sapodilla picked up a pathogen during that time and it wasn't actually the flooding that killed it?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Category 4 Hurricane Irma
« on: September 08, 2017, 12:13:27 AM »
Well, the center of current track is right over my grove. I know avocado trees will probably get destroyed at anything over 140 mph and this Irma has even more.  I don't know.......Like to get it done and over with. Too much information..... too many days before.

Has your grove taken a beating before?  Does severe pruning prior to impact mitigate damage? I'm hopeful that our losses are minimal. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Staking Trees for Wind?
« on: September 08, 2017, 12:11:07 AM »
Good Luck Marley !
Are you staying in Naples ?

Ed

I got mine staked !

I went ahead and removed most of the stakes throughout the farm in hopes that the trees get pushed over rather than snap at the tie point.  I do however have 200 stakes on hand for the aftermath if there's anything left.  Wife and kids are in GA with inlaws.  I'm going to weather the storm with my dad at the farm.  Hopefully the house will hold up.  It is new block/stemwall/tiebeam, 4/12 hip roof, impact windows and doors, truss straps so we'll see.  We do have a portable generator.  You guys?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Staking Trees for Wind?
« on: September 08, 2017, 12:01:53 AM »
Hi Mark.  Typical farming, you know how it is.  I prayed for rain before I planted my first tree and we get record rainfall with lots of flooding, now we get a hurricane to go with it :)  I will be praying now for minimal damage and for Carlos/other forum members along the Eastern seaboard. Will not be staking until after the storm - THANKS!

Yep, am hoping for the best amigo!

Like I said, been there done that.  No sooner had I hand planted 1,750 trees and a destructive hail storm with perhaps an embedded tornado, at least a foot of rain and straight line winds, laid them over.  One by one you upright, pound down the soil with your foot, stake and go onto the next one.   We also lost our roof and north windows, etc. on our new custom built house.

Mother nature is a cruel mistress

Absolutely Brutal. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Staking Trees for Wind?
« on: September 06, 2017, 10:28:03 AM »
Been thru this kind of thing.  DO NOT STAKE, you're wasting precious time that could be used for personal safety purposes.  Come back, upright, and THEN stake.

They will most likely go over staked or not.

Good luck Marley, been thinking about you and writing about you situation on Facebook this morn.

Hi Mark.  Typical farming, you know how it is.  I prayed for rain before I planted my first tree and we get record rainfall with lots of flooding, now we get a hurricane to go with it :)  I will be praying now for minimal damage and for Carlos/other forum members along the Eastern seaboard. Will not be staking until after the storm - THANKS! 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Staking Trees for Wind?
« on: September 06, 2017, 10:24:03 AM »
Can you severely trim back the canopy leaving only scaffold branches and leaving only very few or no leaves? I would think the tree would grow back fast although you will probably loose several years of fruit.

Simon

Hi Simon.   I could but most of the trees are so small already and my thought is that they will get blown over leaves or no leaves. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Staking Trees for Wind?
« on: September 05, 2017, 05:05:40 PM »
I wonder if large diameter PVC can just slide right over.
Then anchor the PVC with some CMU Blocks, rebar, etc

Sounds good in theory however material cost and labor for over 300 trees just isn't feasible.  Maybe for a few trees though...?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Staking Trees for Wind?
« on: September 05, 2017, 05:04:46 PM »
"No amount of staking will help - just hope that the roots haven't grown so much that the trees break. Hopefully they will just fall over and then you can stand them upright again." (if you can find them!) Words from nursery owner on the island. Good luck

None of their roots are very established.  Most however have flushed some.  I started planting in early July.  Hopefully, they just blow over and Ill stake back up after the storm.  For stakes I always go to the surveyors.  Thanks.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Staking Trees for Wind?
« on: September 05, 2017, 04:30:18 PM »
Should newly planted trees be staked in preparation for hurricane force winds or is it better to just let them get blown over?  I've read some conflicting information on this and was wondering if anyone has an opinion.  I was originally thinking a single stake tight to the trunk with nursery tape to secure them






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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Atemoya on Guanabana Rootstock?
« on: September 02, 2017, 12:09:49 PM »
Yes , but atemoya takes the cold better than guanabana. So grafting it would make it less cold hardy.
But the (guanabana) roots would be underground and shouldn't be affected by air temperature, I would think.  Unless it were well below freezing.

with guanabana u are also prone to root rot....

Please explain how guanabana is prone to root rot?  I was under the impression they were very flood tolerant and this could be the answer for those trying to grow atemoya in flood prone areas?

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Ill try to make scions available early next year.

Heres a video of the mother tree i made after it set fruit.
https://youtu.be/YCjzDGlkmjk

Nice video.  Look forward to grafted trees.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pugging
« on: August 30, 2017, 08:22:07 AM »
Isn't it a little bit late in the growing season? (i don't know, may be where you are there is yet enough time in the season to allow good flushes), but in my case,  i pugged mine in the beginning of the growing season to give the tree a whole growing season to recover from the pugging and to send a decent number of shoots and to benefit from the energy acumulated during winter to flush good scaffold branches, if it was my tree under my climate conditions i would wait till spring and pug it. But it is your call depending on your local conditions.

Not sure about Cali but in florida it's not too late.  I've topped many different varieties throughout the year with success for the most part give or take a handful.  Mind you my experience has been with younger trees for the most part.  Whatever the case you don't want the newly topped tree to undergo environmental stress (drought, flood, contamination/fungus).  My preference is to wait for the tree to flush to ensure quick new growth.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pugging
« on: August 29, 2017, 11:57:21 AM »
I have searched till my eyes glazed over. How long should I wait to pug a mango after planting? The future trees are 3 gal. and quite tall.

I would do it now if their roots are semi-established and not susceptible to flooding - but that's just me.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Wanted--mangos fruit
« on: August 28, 2017, 08:49:59 PM »
Not much left mango-wise in Florida.   Many people/places in Florida wont ship to California.

Does tropical acres have any quantity?  Seems like there may be a slight demand for later season varieties?  A good friend of mine who happens to be a buyer for local grocery stores mentioned this recently.

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Awesome pics.  Really cool that wifey is converted,  I'm currently working on mine.  Most people don't seem to understand just how many different flavors and textures there are.  The few LZs that I've tried have not been so orange and I just remember thinking I want to eat more, haha.  Thanks for sharing

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mushroom ID?
« on: August 28, 2017, 09:55:00 AM »
I don't really know, but it looks like a mushroom I knew in Australia called 'golden top'.  Golden top is a magic mushroom.  Don't try it without a more knowledgeable response.
Peter

I won't be eating it but just was wondering if it's toxic.  Thanks!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Mushroom ID?
« on: August 28, 2017, 09:23:27 AM »
I know this is unrelated to fruit and way off topic but some feedback is needed.  They appear to be growing in our new Bahia sod around the house.  Are they toxic, what kind is this?  Thanks







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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 17 inches and it won"t stop
« on: August 28, 2017, 09:19:21 AM »
Some pics from around Bokeelia:





My place, new beds planted last week L to R Guavas, Cassava, Jackfruit. Glad I used mounds  ;) :





Were you able to construct those mounded rows with that kubota tractor?  I wish I had the equipment and or resources to do that.  Most of our farm is flooded.  Canistel has been flooded for 5 days.  Sugar Apple, atemoya, jackfruit have been flooded for 3 days.  No visible signs of stress yet but wondering how much more they can take?  At the first sign of leaf wilt I'm going to pop them out of the ground since everything was just recently planted (no mounding).  All of the mangoes are flooded but they look to be doing fine most are flushing.














Canistel




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