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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jackfruit flowers
« on: February 25, 2017, 08:25:16 AM »
MarvelMango, your flowers are male.  Look at JoeP450's photo. Those are female.



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: soil ph
« on: February 20, 2017, 04:35:31 PM »
I bought Tiger 90 from Diamond R in Homestead.

haha yah, as an experiment, I laid down sulfur pellets at the rate of about 4 tons per acre and ended up with soil that registered between 2 and 3 on the pH meter. The pH is now in the 4's due to irrigation with canal water. Surprisingly, the only trees that died were about 1/2 of the annona species I had planted out.

What's wrong with sulfur?

Nothing if you monitor the soil's pH with a good pH meter AND more importantly know how to test your soil the right way, which few do - using deionized water as a carrier in the jar.  Witnessed a friend's yard burn up when he got heavy handed on the sulfur.  Pastules are an easy way to distribute but they are stubborn when it comes to breaking down.  I've found that it takes a couple of years but at least it won't burn things up in most cases.
Jeff: Where did you buy the Sulphur? Is there a source for truckloads of Sulphur in SFla? Thanks. Federico

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jackfruit 10' up?
« on: February 15, 2017, 08:46:07 PM »
3 out of 4 of my fruit producing seedlings put out the first fruit at the top of the tree. I have two seedling trees producing the first fruit this year and the fruits are about 2 - 3 feet below the tallest tip. One tree is 16 feet tall. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Zinc mango info (not its offspring)
« on: February 15, 2017, 12:40:46 PM »
I may not be as knowledgeable as Rob but I am unhappy with southern blush.  Serious fungal issues in my yard.  Putting it near a canal may make this worse.  I rate it as good and sometimes great but not excellent. It is occupying space that could be used for something better suited to my yard and tastes.  Maybe Kathy would be the better option over ZINC if you can try some this summer.


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I have about 1 acre of my yard planted with fruit trees.  I am a bit stingy with fertilizer and chemicals.  Last year I probably used 12 or 14 bags of fert.  My "plan" for this year is based on the recommendations of Soil Analytics. For most areas, they are recommending 150 lbs per acre of K.  Using 50% 8-2-12 and 50% 0-3-16, the average is 14%. 150 divided by .14 = 1071 lbs so my plan is more than the recommendation.  This is the best I can come up with based on my "experience" ::) operating a fruit orchard. 

I plan on ordering some Nordox.  I do need a mister. Otherwise, I will hit that 2 lbs copper pretty quickly.  I am having trouble getting over the mental hurdle of the mister's price tag. I will get there eventually. I just spent too much money on irrigation stuff. 

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Thanks for the chelated Mn recommendation.  Next time I drive to Homestead/FL City, I will try to get some Brexil.  I sprayed today with the MnSO4 I already had and K-phite (same as plant doctor).  I added Serenade to the batch I sprayed my mango trees with.  The MnSO4 did not dissolve well. After I sprayed the entire yard with 34 tablespoons (1 per gal) of Mn, I had 2 - 3 tablespoons of Mn at the bottom of my tank sprayer. 

As of today, my plan is to apply half the sulfur now (300lbs), the other half in July.  I will apply 12 bags of 0-3-16 (4 in Feb, 4 in May, 4 in Aug) and 12 bags of 8-2-12 (Mar, Jun, Sep).  I will do some foliar spraying (3 - 4 times)  as well.   

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So you are thinking I will need to supplement Mn with foliar or soil drenching? I have MnSO4 from amazon that I was adding to my chelated iron soil drenches, which seems to my untrained eye to be similar to tecmangan.   Maybe I should find a chelated Mn?

I bought a 20 pound bag on amazon but I do not see that anymore.  Here is the link to 3 pounds:
https://www.amazon.com/Manganese-Fertilizer-Greenway-Biotech-Inc/dp/B00G3YU1TC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1485985081&sr=8-1&keywords=manganese+sulfate

My K number is shocking.  Har walked my yard and he told me my K was lacking.  I have been using 8-2-12-4 since.  I need something with low Mg and high K.  Seems even 1:1 ratio is not good for some plants.  Any companies do custom fertilizer mixes in small batches(500 - 750 pounds) at a reasonable price?

I used Spectrum Analytics.  They received the samples Monday and I had the results on Tuesday afternoon.

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I finally took the time to get my soil analyzed.  I wish I had done this when I moved in.  I am pretty lazy and hard headed.  My thanks to Jeff (Cookiemonster) and others for posting so much great information on soil testing and analysis.  I can now see that my pH, calcium, and zinc are way high. My potassium is way low(causing magnesium problems), phosphorus and manganese are low too.  I bought 550 pounds of Tiger90 before I did the test. It is still sitting in a shed. After I bought it, I stopped myself from applying it until I got the testing done. 

 














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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« on: January 25, 2017, 06:51:40 PM »
Congrats on your fruit home grown red!

I am happy to report I ate my first home grown sabara yesterday.  The tree only produced a single fruit.  I planted the tree 4 years ago from a 7 gallon.

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Mike T is referring to the mother tree that bore the fruit that was the source of the seeds you planted, not the pollination of the fruit you ate.  Sounds like you have an awesome chempajak.  Send me seeds!

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There is a jackfruit tree at the Fruit and Spice Park that pulls apart and has a tiny core.  It is way in the back and unlabeled.  We nicknamed it "pulldown" because a little pressure on the top of the fruit left the bare core on the tree.  The excellent flavor and soft texture share some similarities with cheena so maybe it has some chempadak genetics.  The leaves are rough but not hairy. 

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It was probably just genetic reshuffling.  If you are happy with the eating quality of the fruit, it is a success. 

Did you plant multiple Amber seedlings? I did an experiment planting 5 seedlings from the same fruit and the resulting trees, planted 6 feet apart in a row, are visually different.  Only one has produced fruit, two years ago, another significant difference. The parent fruit had yellow flesh and seedling #1 has orange flesh.

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That looks nothing like Sleepdoc's amber, which was orange colored. I think the structure was different too, less rag.  Your taste description, while sounding very much like a fruit I would absolutely love, is not close to what we experienced here, sweet and earthly with the smallest hint of some spice like anise or licorice.   Your flavor description does sound like Sleepdoc's Berry.  Are the leaves long and pointed, sort of like a mango?  Maybe a seedling mix-up.  But I have personally planted seedlings and the fruit end up nothing like the parent.  I am starting to think people searching for seeds of a particular parentage would do just as well planting seeds of any good jackfruit they encounter since the genetics do not seem to carry forward. 

If you want to reduce the acidity, try waiting a day after the fruit is soft on the tree and see if the acidity goes down. This is a hard theory to prove but I think acidity may be reduced by leaving the fruit on the tree longer.  This seems to be the case with Bangkok Lemon.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: List of seeds that rats love
« on: January 17, 2017, 07:49:03 AM »
I lost multiple trays of button mangosteen seeds, ever one dug up and shredded.

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The flower on the left looks perfect. The one on the right may be male.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: FL frosts and freezes 2017
« on: January 07, 2017, 04:18:12 PM »
Costco in Pembroke Pines has them for $79.99.  There is currently a $20 instant rebate.  $59.99 is a no brainer.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Grafted Pulasan Arrived From Hawaii
« on: December 30, 2016, 08:01:17 AM »
Wow! Based on my lychee observations, I say yes, those are fruit.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Should I let this Jackfruit hold fruit?
« on: December 19, 2016, 07:44:15 PM »
With jaks, flowers do not equal fruit.  Sometimes you have to check under the skirt ;) Those are dudes.  The indicator that these are males is evidenced by where the flower meets the stem.  Females do not taper off like that. They are generally the full diameter, or close to it, where they meet the stem.  I have seen some huge male flowers 4-5 inches long and almost 2 inches in diameter.  Sometimes males have a texture that is very rough and similar to a female's.  I have also seen she-males, males flowers with female sections.

Here are some females that will be part of the 2017 crop. However, fungus is rampant this year and I have already seen females wither away.





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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Achachairu Progression
« on: December 18, 2016, 06:56:31 PM »
Your tree looks great.  I think you have a good chance of flowering this year.  I have eaten fruit from smaller trees in PR. 

I bought a pair from Montoso around the same time.  I just put one in the ground around 5 months ago and the other is still in a 7 gal pot.  I almost killed them twice while in pots by under watering.  I planted the one in a windy spot and it dropped most of its leaves.  With the cooler weather, it is finally pushing some new leaves.  It is 6ft tall by 5ft wide and nearly naked.

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$50

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Eugenia candolleana
« on: November 06, 2016, 03:29:10 PM »
I have a couple of 3 and 7 gallons available. They are already flowering and some have fruited.

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Temperate Fruit Buy, Sell, & Trade / Re: Eugenia candolleana
« on: November 06, 2016, 03:24:43 PM »
I have a couple of 3 and 7 gallons available. They are already flowering and some have fruited.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mai 3 Jackfruit
« on: October 16, 2016, 10:07:27 AM »
That stinks... I have had fruit that had signs of infection in the core but the bulbs tasted fine.  I never spray my jakfruit trees but it is starting to looks like everything in the yard needs fungicide  :(

Everything I have read so far states jackfruit are disease and pest free but I found this:

http://www.itfnet.org/v1/2012/09/observations-on-the-occurrence-of-brown-specks-on-jackfruit-seeded-arils-%E2%80%93-a-combination-of-disease-and-abiotic-factors/

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mai 3 Jackfruit
« on: October 14, 2016, 01:00:01 PM »
Wow, great picture!  I have not tasted mai 3 yet.  I am hoping my tree will fruit next year.  I look forward to reading your taste report.

So far I do not have any experience with uneven ripening.  The general browning I see on the outside is not really a sign of ripeness. I have a seedling that gets really ugly, brown and black, on the outside 6 to 8 weeks before it is ready.  When a jackfruit has a well defined black or brown circle that is very soft, it can be over ripe for my tastes.  From what I see in the picture, it does not look overripe to me but a close up picture of the soft spots might tell a different story.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jakfruit 2016
« on: August 12, 2016, 12:25:39 PM »
SleepDoc and I had a impromptu jak tasting today.  Five different varieties, four fresh and one refrigerated, (from left to right) Cristella, Bangkok Lemon, Cheena, and J31.  Not pictured was the refrigerated Excalibur, which was the least enjoyable (even when fresh) but still a good fruit.  The BKL was a bit early and could have used another day's ripening.  It was lemony and crunchy but was not fully flavored.  This fruit goes from lemony to sugar sweet depending on how long you let it sit.  My perfect eating stage is to pick it the day it softens on the tree and letting it ripen a day on the kitchen counter.  Others seem to enjoy it after 3 days of counter ripening.  Cristella and Cheena were both strong flavored fruits.  I enjoy strong flavorings but these are not for everyone.  Cheena has a soft texture. Cristella has a firm texture but I think the Cheena's flavor was a bit better.  J31 was right on the money.  The flavor was very good, like bazooka bubble gum but not overpowering, and the texture was firm.  I think that a large group of people would have given J31 the top prize for the day but, in the flavor department, I personally liked the cheena best.   

 


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