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I would  go Catalina avocado one of best avocado
Do you grow it or know anyone who does?  Can you describe the tree?
I don't grow only because it's too cold sensitive for my area but grow more upright tree with rounded shaped leaves
https://www.tropicalfruitnursery.com/variety-selected-name-catalina-informacion-10

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I would  go Catalina avocado one of best avocado

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Anyone know what WI/WI hybrid varieties they sell as fruit in Walmart? Sometimes country of origin is US, sometimes Dominican Republic.
Just wondering if they’d be decent rootstock for wet spots in my forest. Thanks
You need look for dry spots grow your avocado tree .
You maybe thinking about choquette avocado at is a hybrid of a  Guatemalan and West Indian types with  flower type A . Pretty good fruit quality

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Anyone know what WI/WI hybrid varieties they sell as fruit in Walmart? Sometimes country of origin is US, sometimes Dominican Republic.
Just wondering if they’d be decent rootstock for wet spots in my forest. Thanks
You need look for dry spots grow your avocado tree .

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catalina avocado is one best pure-West Indian type and it a type flower . Monroe avocado is a hybrid and it b type flower . If I have only get one I would go catalina avocado .

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Can anyone identify these plants?
« on: September 19, 2020, 07:39:39 PM »
Np I'm happy to help

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Can anyone identify these plants?
« on: September 19, 2020, 05:16:23 PM »
Almost looks like a Brazilian pepper tree but hard to tell for sure

Definitely not Brazilian Pepper.  Leaf is wrong and berries are red.


This is the one I was talking about it looks kind of like a Brazilian pepper tree
The black color berry is the day  blooming Jasmine
That one hasn't flower yet

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Can anyone identify these plants?
« on: September 19, 2020, 04:24:52 PM »
Almost looks like a Brazilian pepper tree but hard to tell for sure

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Can anyone identify these plants?
« on: September 19, 2020, 04:13:10 PM »
Day blooming Jasmine https://toptropicals.com/catalog/uid/Cestrum_diurnum.htm
The other without flowers I'm not sure

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit id
« on: September 18, 2020, 08:30:58 PM »
I ate a whole bunch of them before I could do taste like peanut butter . There's probably an issue with the plant maybe too much water or something else . Has sold some to customers after they tried the fruit . Of course peanut butter lovers .

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit id
« on: September 18, 2020, 08:23:12 AM »
Maybe Bunchosia argentea or species / peanut butter fruit Ash tastes pretty good if you get on the  stage and as long as you like peanut butter. It tastes like sweet peanut butter . It turns orange red color transparent skin and skin gets kind of shiny as well and lastly super soft. If you pick it too early it'll taste kind of chlorophyll / grassy taste to it

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit id
« on: September 17, 2020, 11:16:03 PM »
Yes it a pond apple you try make wine with it .

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Need help ID this Jaboticaba?
« on: September 15, 2020, 12:26:45 AM »
muscadine grapes my friend

Thanks, Interesting.  First time for me.  The seller is selling it as Jab.
Np I'm happy to help you out . It grapes that grow in Florida because it tolerates the heat . We have some wine making center fl use the Muscadine grape . Henscratch Farms is the one I know but I know more in FL

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Need help ID this Jaboticaba?
« on: September 14, 2020, 11:57:26 PM »
muscadine grapes my friend

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dwarf Mango Project
« on: September 13, 2020, 08:53:34 PM »
I had a question about polyembryonic mango seeding is a good way to figure out which one it's not the clone / genetically different from the mother plant ?
And can leaf smell test accurate enough to be able to identify a different and best stage of the leaf test to tell the difference ?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dwarf Mango Project
« on: September 12, 2020, 10:00:06 AM »

Issue with Pickering mango seed is at it monoembryonic seed so there never be stable you need find a polyembryonic seed a stable rootstock

That is the idea though. You need variation to find something new. Once you find it grafting gives you the ability to propagate, no need for ‘stability’.

Good luck :) I don’t know how many seeds you’ll need to plant to find something worthwhile but interesting project.
If you're planning to use this rootstock you need to be stable
If not stable you can never guarantee it's going to be a dwarf

Future is talking about a dwarf cultivar not rootstock. Scion can provide the dwarfing characteristic, you don’t need a dwarf rootstock.
Yeah I kind of figured that's what he was going for after . I thinking about making a dwarfing rootstock so you dwarf existing cultivars I think would have been more beneficial in the future for Grove/residentials

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dwarf Mango Project
« on: September 12, 2020, 09:33:42 AM »
If is purpose just to make a new dwarf variety mango doesn't matter if the hybrid is monoembryonic or polyembryon .

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dwarf Mango Project
« on: September 12, 2020, 08:38:00 AM »
Pickering mango as a mother pant but you hopefully end up with polyembryonic hybrid

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dwarf Mango Project
« on: September 12, 2020, 08:31:46 AM »

Issue with Pickering mango seed is at it monoembryonic seed so there never be stable you need find a polyembryonic seed a stable rootstock

That is the idea though. You need variation to find something new. Once you find it grafting gives you the ability to propagate, no need for ‘stability’.

Good luck :) I don’t know how many seeds you’ll need to plant to find something worthwhile but interesting project.
If you're planning to use this rootstock you need to be stable
If not stable you can never guarantee it's going to be a dwarf

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And some citrus varieties

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 Rose Apple/Syzygium jambos I know have polyembryonic seed

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dwarf Mango Project
« on: September 10, 2020, 06:58:17 PM »
What you did with the tomatoes is interesting. I'm sure it would work with mangoes but would take a longer time.

Thanks Jabo. Time wise, yes and no.  With tomatoes we are looking for stable seeds and their genetics allow that with succeessive plantings (about 9 generations).  With mangoes were aren't looking for stability, just dwarfs with #gourmetmango fruits.  This a single generation will do, thanks to grafting. 

Yet the question to be answered, how often do dwarf-ish trees produce dwarfed progeny?  And from them, how many produce interesting fruit (never mind disease resistance, productivity). 

Others have grafted seedling cuttings onto mature trees and gotten flowers within 2 years under good conditions.  That's a lot faster than 4-5 years growing out twice per year to get a tomato to F9.  But its also a lot longer to wait for a fruit.  At least with tomato, you can have a general sense within say 4 months if its taste holds any promise.

As for my Julie seedling, it's a year old, less than a foot tall and has 5 branches.  Odd seeing such a small tree sporting branches and full sized leaves....

Issue with Pickering mango seed is at it monoembryonic seed so there never be stable you need find a polyembryonic seed a stable rootstock

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dwarf Mango Project
« on: September 10, 2020, 11:17:48 AM »
Yeah that's the nice thing about tomatoes and peppers make new hybrids pretty fast  about 9th generation maybe a little bit more a little bit less to make them stable .

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dwarf Mango Project
« on: September 09, 2020, 08:05:41 PM »
Very cool, Future! Do you have photos of the Julie seedling? I've planted quite a few seeds of different mangos. I suck at math so couldn't provide statistics, but I'd guess at least 60% of my Pickering seedlings grow slower and more bushier.

Here's one from 2017, now at about 55" at its tallest point. I have never trimmed this tree:



Here's a seedling from a different Pickering from 2018. It's grown more vertical (at around 36" tall now) but has thrown out a side branch. It's one I don't consider "dwarf". I have not trimmed this one either:



Here's a short one from 2018. It came from a seed from the same tree as the other 2018 Pickering seedling. I did trim off two side branches that were too vertical for my liking. Since going in the ground a few months ago, it's put out little branches from its base. It's not even 17" tall:



Truly tropical 20-year-old Julie tree https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9MtImh2sbKM

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dwarf Mango Project
« on: September 09, 2020, 07:22:10 PM »
The thing you could do try making a new hybrid using the Julie mango as mother plant and look for another mango with polyembryonic seed and with characteristics looking for . only true dwarf Julie mango by my knowledge .
So I looking into slow growing mango tree with polyembryonic seed as father plant so new hybrid a higher chance of being polyembryonic .
it will be a very long project taking years and land .
The best can be done right now as far I know use slow growing varieties as a rootstock

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