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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« on: Today at 01:11:05 AM »
i seent sum chatter about the sanford being an aureana seedling, but i'm saying it was a phitrantha seedling that got thrown into a bag of seeds i got that were supposed to be aureana...

there's no way you're going to get the difference in flavor and fruit composition between sanford phitrantha and aureana from seed....

and a hybrid of aureana and phitrantha, would kind of be redundant...they are so closely related, you'd probably have no way to distinguish a hybrid from a pure phitrantha...that is, maybe unless they were both selected, and rare varieties that looked totally different...

and furthermore, they are calling some trees like "watermelon" P. aureana, but i beg to differ, it's got fuzzy leaves and aureana never has fuzz like watermelon does...i'd say it's closer related to P. grandifolia....

but when you boil it all down, all these different species, are probably the same species, and we're dealing with a bunch of varieties thereof. 

Think of Sabara like the wolf, and every other plinia that can graft onto it, is like a modern day domesticated dog.  Almost all of the Plinias that look like Sabara (at least superficially, like trunciflora, grandifolia, aureana, phitrantha, coronata, etc...) can all interbreed and produce viable offspring (with the possible exception of Plinia edulis, clausa, etc.).  So they all the same species to me...

I agree with you 100%, Adam. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Has Anyone Heard of Eugenia’Restinga’?
« on: November 20, 2020, 11:32:07 PM »
That was my assessment as well. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Has Anyone Heard of Eugenia’Restinga’?
« on: November 20, 2020, 09:48:16 PM »
I’m always looking for new Eugenias, but never of this one before.  Sounds like a Eugenia from the Restings region of Brazil.  Could be Pitomba?

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If you find yourself in SB at any point, I can sell you one of those and the nelita you were interested in, just can't ship on account of my ACL repair.

Hi Kevin,

Hope you are feeling better.  I will try to get up there in the near future.  Very interested to check out your farm/garden.

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I don't know about better or not (never tasted yellow), I just kinda like to have different varieties.

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Hi,

Looking to purchase a plant but will buy seeds if no one has it for sale.



Joe

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« on: October 30, 2020, 11:20:38 PM »
All I will add to this conversation is that when I asked Ray Bayer if he could only grow one variety of Plinia, he said "Sabara".   

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Santa Anas Blow
« on: October 30, 2020, 11:11:40 PM »
That sucks.  I really do not like wind.  I lucked out this time around 

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Seeds and some seedlings for sale
« on: October 29, 2020, 09:19:54 AM »
Please let me know when you get more of the yellow grumichama seeds.

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I've been on that sight.  They don't discuss what I am asking.  I wanted to hear how Palologrower identified it as a 'paulista'.

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Newbie Question:  What are the telling signs that it is a 'paulista' vs. 'sabara' or any other versions of cauliflora?

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Generic names always cause confusion.  In Brazil, the same Plinia species can have many different names from region to region.

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Do you have to clean the membrane around seed to germinate?


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Overrated Tropical Fruits
« on: October 18, 2020, 10:54:04 PM »
I've never been one to get into something without trying it first.  After that, it's all about personal preferences...

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I've heard the coronatas that make large fruit like 'Olho de boi' take a long time (15+ years) to make fruit.  The fruits pictured don't look like it's the large variety.

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My order has cleared customs and is on it's way to me.   ;D

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Eugenia involucrata varieties
« on: October 10, 2020, 08:21:41 PM »
Thank you!  I will get one of each.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Eugenia involucrata varieties
« on: October 10, 2020, 09:53:31 AM »
Does anyone have both E. involucrata sp. ‘Nelita’ and ‘Ben’s Beaut’?

They both seem to be the large fruiting varieties.  Want to know if there is a difference between the two.




Joe

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dark Surinam Cherry
« on: October 08, 2020, 04:09:50 PM »
Agreed. “Revert “ was a poor choice of words.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dark Surinam Cherry
« on: October 08, 2020, 12:43:45 AM »
if you graft a known cultivar you have 100% a clone of the parent tree.

There was a study done at UF and 75% of the seedlings had dark fruit 25% had red fruit
when seeds came from dark fruit
I have sold many Zill's seeds and haven't received feedback yet? I did grow a dasyblasta
from seed and the fruit is 100% as they describe dasyblasta

That's what Achetadomestica was saying with the University of Florida study.  Yes, when I use the word "revert" I meant the seed.  NOT a plant creating black fruit then red. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Dark Surinam Cherry
« on: October 07, 2020, 04:09:41 PM »
Hi,

I have a red Surinam Cherry and wanted to add a dark one.  My understanding is that I want a grafted plant to ensure that it will be dark because seedlings from the dark plants can revert to being red.  Can someone confirm this? 


Thanks in advance,



Joe

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Jaboticaba acu paulista
« on: September 28, 2020, 03:58:41 PM »
Just an FYI...SOLD OUT

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Jaboticaba acu paulista
« on: September 27, 2020, 09:35:54 AM »
PM sent

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« on: September 26, 2020, 12:58:26 AM »
Found this reference site called "The Plant List".  It has all the Plinia species and synonyms.  If this has already been posted, my apology: 


http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/record/kew-161353



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Growing Mango trees in Southern California
« on: September 25, 2020, 05:25:50 PM »
Getting intrigued with mangos for Southern California.  Here is a video of mango trees in Phoenix, AZ for insperation.  Some are 40 ft tall/25 years old:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t57YGE1oMbg&ab_channel=ShamusO%27Leary

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