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There should be, but not to my knowledge.
The one I had (above) was excellent. As good as any berry/cherry type eugenia ive had. unfortunately this species has little resistance to myrtle rust and my plant was destroyed by it, as have been many others.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best Mango Slicer?
« on: May 03, 2012, 06:28:42 PM »
Those mango cutters only work on a particular variety of mango. The Calypso here is often accompanied by a box full of slicers in the supermarket.
http://www.femail.com.au/competition-calypso-mango-cutters.htm
http://www.calypsomango.com.au/

My vote also goes to a sharp kitchen knife.

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Do you have a photo?
Most Taiwanese atemoya I've seen have been very perfect looking, very much like a Tropic Sun. The perfect bumps are supposed to be prized as they resemble the head of the Buddha.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: New Fruit Similar to Starapple
« on: May 03, 2012, 06:59:24 AM »
Ah, so it is.  :-[ I get mixed up in my head. Sydney is 1000k south, Mackay is 1000k north. Thats generally as far as I drive and I always have 1000km stuck in my head. Flying makes it feel much closer!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Vietnamese Atemoya
« on: May 03, 2012, 06:55:32 AM »
Thats the one mike. The BGs look pretty sad, but with luck and decent night temps I should be able to salvage something. Thanks again. Hoping for some luck on the rambai front.
Oscar, they do set fruit on their own, but not as well as most others. PP is a giant leap in this regard (40% self set to 3-8% for older varieties). Refer to the image in this link for some idea: http://www.anfic.com.au/kjpinks.htm

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: New Fruit Similar to Starapple
« on: May 03, 2012, 06:44:41 AM »
Fruitlovers you are getting me and BMc mixed up he is about 1100 miles down the road from me in the subtropics.I am the one who said I would not have a name for those without any bronzy colour under the leaves because I don't know that fruit.I also said there is some variation in the depth of this bronzy colour on the underside of the leaves.By here I really mean 15 to 19 latitude on the east coast.

1100 miles? i thought it was a mere 1000 kms?  ;D
I'll try to take some pictures this weekend. I only have seedlings, a few feet tall.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Vietnamese Atemoya
« on: May 03, 2012, 06:20:12 AM »
PM take longer to crop, set less fruit and need pollination a lot of the time. They are also a BIG tree. Not great for an uncommitted farmer or market.
AP was for a long time the easier of the atemoya to grow. Interestingly, farmers now complain about the Paxtons Prolific (KJ Pinks) because the thinning of self set fruits takes longer than pollination would take on the original mammoth.
There are a number of reasons why it would not be the variety of choice for industry, but not really based on quality.
As background, it was a selection made here in Brisbane (Bowen Hills) from seeds sent from Guyana of an unusually large fruited tree there.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: tastiest Annona fruit
« on: May 02, 2012, 07:27:51 PM »
To me the tastiest annona is the one in my mouth.
All this debating is making me hungry!
Oscar is correct in saying we couldnt make a real informed decision on cherimoya v atemoya as there is very little production here of cherimoya, as atemoya is established in the market and distributed south, into cherimoya country, and there is not a huge home grower scene for it (other than a few avid collectors in country Vic and around Adelaide. We do have many of the good american types here, but searching them out to get a taste is too much work. Only white, fino and sofia are easily available and others like booth, pierce were distributed by the main production nursery here, but they stopped selling them due to low demand and concentrated on their atemoyas. I believe they still have the original trees though, so there is hope that they could be reintroduced if they get more popular again.
Anywho, I'm off to down 1.2 kgs of pinks mammoth  ;D

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Need garcinia ID
« on: May 02, 2012, 07:18:53 PM »
Just call it Garcinia sp. (Achachairu). Let the Garcinia pros sort it all out. When they do, ignore them, as they'll change their minds soon thereafter.  ;D

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: New Fruit Similar to Starapple
« on: May 02, 2012, 05:25:25 PM »
We have lots of the ones without the gold/brown/bronze underside to the leaf. They are still called starapples as they are similar in most ways, but are smaller and pinkish green usually, very nice milky flavour. a real favorite of bats. Most people here just call them pink star apple. May not be the same as the one you have, but certainly no color on the leaf underside. Sometimes leaves are pointed.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Vietnamese Atemoya
« on: May 02, 2012, 06:08:04 AM »
Yes - MG has decent fruit - have had a few. Looks like cross of AP and PM. Elongated like AP with bumps somewhere between the two. supposedly best suited to tropics. I've not seen many trees down here, but may be able to access some of the early plantings, as many varieties were trialled in home gardens here, and a number of forgotten trees provided by the govt are still in backyards fruiting their heads off. I dont know weather to chase MG, late gold and Island Gem, as these are soon going to be 'old hat'. Im still considering Bernitsky, although I know nothing about it other than its 'an exceptional fruit developed in Israel'. I'm hoping to get some info on a trip up to Birdwood about new varieties being mooted for home gardener release, including the red atemoyas crossed with ilama and others that growers have felt not ideally suited to the market that have come out of the recent breeding programs. That should help make my mind up!  ;D

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: gibberellic acid for annona seeds
« on: May 02, 2012, 05:55:31 AM »
My M. Leichhardtii is in fruit now at under 1 foot. Fruits are small, round and black though, so I have no idea whats going on.  Maybe I'll just chalk it down to a first year fruiting anomaly. it wants to be a bush here rather than a rampant vine as up near Cairns. They dont need any treatment here. i've not had much luck with Uvaria and Pseuduvaria though, so may have to try GA3 treatments.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Vietnamese Atemoya
« on: May 02, 2012, 05:39:15 AM »
There was a whopper at the market today - around 2.5kg. Seedling of mammoth. I've settled for a few around the 1kg mark. they are less gritty and dont have the woodiness at the core that the 1.5kg plus fruit can have. Here are a few ugly ducklings from today - all from mammoth seedlings.








Mike, I'm picking up my Tropic Sun tomorrow. Now its going into autumn I can pick it up at 30%off  ;D

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Favorite Lychee Variety
« on: May 01, 2012, 06:25:39 PM »
I have a great idea.If BMc drives 500 miles north and I drive 500 miles south we could meet at the farm that has erdon lee.If we hurdle the fence together an he distracts the guard dogs I could snatch a few snippets and make my escape.Later we could meet up and share the bounty.

Hehe, Mike, but the farmer doesn't look like a man to mess about with  ;)
I have family in and around Sarina, so maybe I could make good with them and coax them into doing the dirty work  8)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Kepel (Stelechocarpus burahol)
« on: May 01, 2012, 04:38:56 AM »
Mike, I saw one small seedling sell on eBay last week for $175. Perhaps the Kepel had a use after all   :P

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Expect a Good Year for Mangos
« on: April 30, 2012, 10:47:31 PM »
Mmm, nice and firm and juicy. The mangoes look good too.

Kona King? hehehe.

Is that a banana mango in the pic? I love them, but not much complexity, just nice and sweet.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dear Annona Wizards
« on: April 30, 2012, 10:42:57 PM »
Or maybe in here from page 21:
http://era.deedi.qld.gov.au/1653/4/3grocus.pdf

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dear Annona Wizards
« on: April 30, 2012, 10:38:52 PM »
Here is a good Atemoya troubleshooter:
http://era.deedi.qld.gov.au/1653/6/5probcus.pdf

Not sure if it directly adresses your problem though...

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Incredible Palm Photo
« on: April 30, 2012, 07:09:36 PM »
Luckily we dont get cyclones down here anymore - there is so much coastline here that they generally choose to visit one of our more laid back holiday destinations up north, often where they can do the most damage to soft crops (bananas and sugar cane) and many of the best rare fruit orchards - around Tully seems their destination of choice.
We've not had one since the 70s and usually they peter out into huge flooding depressions by the time they reach here. We do, however, get our share of supercell storms - we dont usually call them tornadoes, but they are super intense storms that are around 500m wide, spin, dump an enormous amount of water, and you have absolutely no warning of. We were in the middle of the 'Gapocalypse' a few years ago. Every other house in our street lost their roof but us, and luckily we didnt lose a single tree. The fruit gods smiled on us that day!  ;D

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: African Pride Atemoya
« on: April 30, 2012, 06:50:09 PM »
Some what, seeds or scions? Guess who is also interested in those cultivars  8)

Scions ofcourse. What good would seeds do? They are not true from seed, so couldn't call them by same cultivar name.

Yes, the PP is a sport of a sport of a selected cultivar, so no use trying to grow the seeds if you want the same variety.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Who's growing Safou?
« on: April 30, 2012, 06:48:26 PM »
I'd heard about these a while back described as a butter fruit. I was interested in getting some material from North Queensland, but then the cyclones hit, ripped out half of everything and now many growers are holding onto what they have  :(

http://www.cropsforthefuture.org/publication/position-paper/Quality%20Standards%20for%20Dacryodes%20edulis.pdf

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Thanks Mike, I've been looking forward to these for a while now. Who knows, maybe in a few years, I'll demand a few baccaurrea be put on this list?  ;D
I've got thursday off work so I can set up triage to try to get them all fixed up before winter.
i'll be in Cairns in 2 weeks time, do you think anything good will be left in the market?
I'll be staying up at Port douglas and Cape Trib for a week. I've heard the RFA conference is being held in Mossman that weekend.

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not surprised to see mango/lychee/mangosteen take the top 3 spot but some surprising results to me further down the line. Someone voted for bacl sapote as their fave fruit? really? how? where? why?
and surprised coconut garnered 5 fave fruit votes.

i picked black sapote. i like the fruit and have some good cultivars here that are like chocolate pudding (to me at least). I get a great deal of pleasure eating them straight outta my yard and watching my son go nuts with them is priceless. As many have stated, taste is subjective - i notice at least 2 people have picked passionfruit, good types of which i use to throw at bats attempting to raid the black sapote trees.

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Of course some have a foul odor that lingers and almost stains. Across its primary growing and consumption regions it is often banned from enclosed spaces. That wouldnt happen if it wasnt an appealing, faint odor to the majority.
Im not against durian or its smell, but have encountered a few with a rancid cabbage boquet, like you get when visiting NY chinatown mid summer. Not all smell like this, but some certainly do (and if you dare to eat one that smells bad olfactory senses will often correlate this to your tastebuds, giving you a terrible experience). Im unsure how folk state they dont smell that strongly, when even in places they are appreciated and widely available they are acknowledged as being rather smelly.

I was also told by a durian fan that if you didnt like the smell or taste of durian you were an unfit person, and that all fit and healthy people would appreciate the taste and smell of durian. That was undoubtedly the stupidest thing I have ever heard.  ;D 

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