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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dream annona question
« on: March 05, 2018, 02:14:50 PM »
That’s how war’s start...


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What fruit tree nurseries can I /should I visit while in south Florida
« on: March 05, 2018, 09:10:21 AM »
To buy fruit

Walter Zills fruit stand

Tropical Acres

Truly Tropical

For mango tree selection Excalibur is hard to beat.  Some places sell both fruit and trees.  I bought my fruit punch tree at Walters. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Any drawback to Maha chanok?
« on: March 03, 2018, 10:10:07 AM »
Still waiting on it to push something. 18 of 20 mango trees have blooms and one has leafed out nicely but still waiting on Maha...

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Talk in Melbourne, FL 2/28
« on: March 01, 2018, 10:27:42 AM »
Alex has posted his mango presentation to his web site at his tropical acres Facebook site.

Lots of mango info and advice for types to avoid and ones that are more resistant.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Talk in Melbourne, FL 2/28
« on: February 28, 2018, 08:22:00 AM »
They film all our guest speakers. Where it goes after that I’m not sure but i’ll ask tonight.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Identifying Mangos to Plant Seed
« on: February 28, 2018, 08:17:55 AM »
Mono will be a combination of parents and won’t be the same as the fruit you got it from.

Poly will have combinations and one clone of the fruit.   Plant them all and graft the trees you don’t  like and keep the ones you do.

Grafting  scions onto a mature tree will get you there faster. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Grumichima and Pitomba flowering
« on: February 28, 2018, 07:59:37 AM »
Hard to beat a big grumachama bloom for smell.

Orange blossoms out and the mix is a perfume that can only be  believed when smelled yourself.   

I have a cherry row wilth Zill Black Suriname, Barbados, Kona coffee, Corg, and grumachama

Plus a pitangatuba and pitomba planted not far from others 

As a landscape planting the grumachama  scores big there also.




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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Wurtz Avocado from Excalibur is Type AB?
« on: February 27, 2018, 02:41:11 PM »
We bought a Wurtz in 2016 and another 2017 and both are flowering.   One is knee high and blooming like a big boy.   The lula bought at same time as last Wurtz  is much bigger and leafing out.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: If you could only have ONE potted fruit tree for a balcony.
« on: February 27, 2018, 12:38:54 PM »
Pickering mango


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Talk in Melbourne, FL 2/28
« on: February 27, 2018, 12:36:36 PM »
Lisa and I have been looking forward to it.

She’s bringing cookies.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Digging up a mango tree
« on: February 26, 2018, 09:32:12 AM »
Tex first you say it can’t be done and then tell people how to do it.

I have moved a lot of trees in my day the hardest being a twelve ft Jaboticaba which took four men and a boy to move.  The boy didn’t show.

All lived including the two mango I gave to friends to make room for new types.  I haven’t lost a single tree doing it the way my dad did it.




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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Trouble Growing Lemons Indoors
« on: February 23, 2018, 12:36:57 PM »
If it grows in south window move it back...

Without direct sunlight it is easy to over water

Move it outside and rehab when temps allow

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Digging up a mango tree
« on: February 23, 2018, 11:37:19 AM »
My dad taught me how to transplant trees long ago and if you cut roots the top has to go too.

It’s a balance between the two that matches each other

Too little or too much of one and it’s gonna have a hard time surviving.

Transplanting a fruiting tree will get you fruit sooner than planting new.

If you have time to root prune it will increase chances but either way you will learn. 

Make sure it’s planted at same depth as before.  And have fun. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Digging up a mango tree
« on: February 23, 2018, 07:17:44 AM »
A sawzall with a pruning blade works best on  bigger roots.  Great for bigger limbs but really makes root  pruning a snap.


Good luck

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Digging up a mango tree
« on: February 22, 2018, 01:40:33 PM »
You may have to dig it out to the point of bare root if it’s huge

A dirt ball is easier on the tree but don’t make it too hard to move.

You can cut it back and root prune now if you have time as it is easier on the tree.

But if no time to wait keep roots wet during move.

1/3 to 2/3 of green off and keep it watered and It should take

Plant at same depth as before

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Digging up a mango tree
« on: February 22, 2018, 11:54:51 AM »
Don’t see why it wouldn’t survive

You want to cut back so there isn’t too much green for the brown to feed

At least a third and more if it’s too heavy

Digging it out to save roots is more important than green at this point.

Mangos transplant pretty well and I believe the original Pickering was moved three times. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Central Florida Cold Snap: What did well and what did poorly?
« on: February 22, 2018, 08:50:15 AM »
Nam Doc Mai #4 I gave to a friend in Ocoee almost died.  Hope something lives above graft on wrist thick trunk.

Coconut cream and fruit punch took the worst over in Titusville where they had a mid day ice storm. One of Lisa’s neighbors used to have a fruit punch but it’s a goner and Lisa’s is pretty close.

In my yard surrounded by young mango trees with burnt leaves the juicy peach looks amazingly well.

Not a single leaf damaged.   I have been impressed with the tree so far which has grown the most of my new planting’s and now it looks to be a touch more cold hardy...


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Any Info on Cotton Candy Mango?
« on: February 22, 2018, 08:13:00 AM »
Cotton Candy leafed out, Phoenix planted at same time has flowers...

Most everything else that age has bloomed so may be a bit slower to fruit.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Tree Oozing Brownish Orange Sap
« on: February 15, 2018, 08:41:14 AM »
Nope if temps weren’t that low it’s something else

The leaves looked frozen. I had a frozen tip on one of my trees that had same problem.   Cut it out when I was pruning out the cold damage. 

Hasn’t come back. 


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Tree Oozing Brownish Orange Sap
« on: February 14, 2018, 04:56:00 PM »
Freeze damage. Cut it back and it will grow out ok.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: PPC+African pride====PAPC or trinh
« on: February 14, 2018, 10:14:38 AM »
African Chong is another option...

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2018 Lychee Bloom
« on: February 12, 2018, 01:44:12 PM »
Sweetheart update




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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Will banana stalk ripen fruit while having no leaves?
« on: February 12, 2018, 07:59:05 AM »
Bananas stop producing leaves when they fruit and they won’t ripen properly if those already on are severely damaged. Yours look close with the big stalk so I’d let em hang for a few more days and see

If they haven’t fruited they may or may not leaf out again depending how close to fruiting. 

Already took mine out. Had one with fruit that I took out and had to remove all the damage on others

Greening out again now.

The one with the new bloom is a goner.

The one with leaves is fine.


I looked again at the stalk and one looks yellow and that is the sign to cut it. The rest will follow 






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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Making changes after this freeze
« on: February 09, 2018, 08:23:37 AM »
In a grove where everything matches the heaters were set every second tree every other row.
 
I have seen them set with more in the northwest corner and thinned out through the rest of the grove.  On a windy night the thinking was it would protect the trees first hit and carry the heat through the grove
Windy is much different than dead calm and frost conditions so you can set up wrong with bad info

In table oranges the set was s but different but every row had heaters and spacing was offset so one row was staggered with next row so all trees were covered.  These were much smaller groves with a higher value.


Look at your property and set the pattern with the Nw always going to get the worst and understand if the glow is on the foliage on one side it may not be on the other   




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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Making changes after this freeze
« on: February 08, 2018, 09:24:39 AM »
Return stacks should be plentiful around abandoned groves

The extra pipe makes it a return stack and burns cleaner and longer.

Not much smoke when they are lit due to design

What we called a smudge pot had no stacks and smoke more

You got some time to hunt and people in citrus prolly know where some are for the taking

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