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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Ilama varieties
« on: September 11, 2017, 12:32:27 AM »
There's more then that.  Fruit color is a trait of varieties, not the varieties themselves.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WTB Jan Boyce scions
« on: September 10, 2017, 02:40:47 AM »
I think mine is too small, but I will look.  I got it from the OC Greenscene so maybe the OC CRFG chapter has a source?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Black sapote opinions
« on: September 08, 2017, 12:29:52 AM »
So I've had some that taste fruity or like unsweetened chocolate.  Some are very good.  At the wrong time or a bad tree can be bad though.

Just grow it up and graft it to something good if you don't like the fruit.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Artocarpus rootstock in California
« on: September 03, 2017, 11:53:39 PM »
The only ones I can keep alive somewhat long term are Jackfruit, Kwai Muk, and Lakoocha.  I can keep the more tropical ones alive for a bit, maybe over a year, but they all just start declining for some reason.

I got three yesterday.  They were good, but not as good as in former years so far.  The "tree ripened" mexican Kents I got were actually better based on the first one I ate.

Cherimoya survives in Contra Costa, Alameda, Solano, Marin, and Sonoma Counties, but not throughout the entire area.  Parts of those counties are too cold.  In my particular locality I can loose small cherimoyas, others do fine  I protect them less then other things though. 

Larger trees exist in Oakland and Berkeley I've been told.  I think the Florance Strange property also had a Jambolan I've been told.  I gave a friend a seedling Cherimoya who kept it in Santa Rosa which survived for a number of years.  It may still be alive, but I think it got burned back severely one year.   

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Bare-root Loquat
« on: August 23, 2017, 03:41:31 PM »
I've dug up a loquat and moved it if that's what you mean. When transplanting small loquats I actually keep them in water until new white root nubs form.  For big ones 4 feet plus I cut back the top (be careful of sun burns) and kept the soil wet for a while at first.  They seem to survive, but I don't do it in summer here (low humidity/dry soil).

I had something labeled "tree ripened" Kents from Mexico at a super market up here.  They were about to go bad. But what was still good was superb at least by my California Mango standards.

I think Vietnamese is Na Dai aka the chewy one in California at least.  Vietnamese Cherimoya is just a tree that was growing in California and as far as I can tell has nothing to do with Vietnam.

I'm going to eat them until I get really sick when they show up. ;D

In addition to those listed Honeyhart is a good variety.  I showed up to a SD CRFG chapter grafting thing and they had a good selection of wood.  So might want to ask them what grows/tastes best in the area.

I had something at Ong's that was African Pride 2 (seedling of?) which was pretty good.  Not as good as top tier Cherimoyas, but better then low tier Cherimoyas.  It was chewy though which allowed you to eat slices in a car while driving.

Something else is the best ones arn't always the best ones every year in a taste test.  I've seen this in my own tests when trying different varieties as well as people who go to the Irvine thing.

I'd just got a tree then graft on things you find out you like honestly.



That's the type I have I got from Bonita.  Red flowers, but green foliage/new growth.  Don't suppose you know variety it was suppose to be?
David doesn't know what the variety is of the green leaved Ilama. I asked the same question to him, but he didn't know. He thinks the red Ilama he sells may be Genova Red.

When I was there he had ones labeled green and red, but seemed sure that the red ones were not Genova Red as only the flowers were red on the red one, not the new growth.  I ended up with a small "red" since I had to drive it back 500 miles and gave my cousin a larger "green". 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help mature lemon tree has never fruit
« on: August 05, 2017, 03:52:26 AM »
If it's from seed it still might not be mature even after 7 years.  It may also not be a lemon depending on source since citrus hybridize.  Just graft on a scion of a lemon if that's what you want right now. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Myrceugenia growing experiences
« on: August 02, 2017, 02:47:24 AM »
Myrceugenia ovata var. nannophylla is taking the 90s and 100s OK, but it's in a pot in the shade.  No fruit yet though.

That's the type I have I got from Bonita.  Red flowers, but green foliage/new growth.  Don't suppose you know variety it was suppose to be?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Haskap
« on: July 30, 2017, 12:58:23 AM »
So I had a plant turn crispy in summer . . . in the shade . . . .under a redwood.  Northern California isn't that hot compared to the tropics either.   

I talked to someone growing some in near coastal low chill SoCal and he had pics of "Solo" holding a few berries.  The one that held for me in NorCal has been Pacific Blue (I think).

I've never been because I've always been pressed for time, but there's a rare fruit planting at the Thousand Oaks botanical garden.  No idea what's in it.  Fairly close to the 101.

Basilisks (all four species) arn't really big fruit eaters.  They might learn to eat something or eat something already open on the ground, but usually at the overripe stage.

For loquat just do the CRFG scion exchanges in winter.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Looking for Saurauia madrensis
« on: June 26, 2017, 03:21:29 PM »
It struggles in 90's.  It is a true cloud forest thing.  When I had mine I had to water two times a day to keep them from wilting.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: sapote trees
« on: June 01, 2017, 12:25:59 PM »
A lot of people tell me that Sebelle isn't a great White Sapote.  Maybe go for Vernon, Walton, Rainbow, Malibu 3, or something else.

You can probably have one cheap if you plant a seed and just graft in a year. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: San Diego Botanic Garden Visit
« on: May 22, 2017, 03:17:50 AM »
I must have missed the Kei Apple, but have only been there a few times. 

Genipa americana?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Chrysophyllum oliviforme
« on: March 29, 2017, 09:51:41 PM »
I had some that was awful.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Gevuina Avellana ( Chilean hazelnut)
« on: February 28, 2017, 01:09:55 AM »
Burnt Ridge in OR. use to have them.  Heat is what gets them. 

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