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We will continue with some grafted mangoes, some Ross sapote seedlings and Mamey sapote seedling also another Black sapote Wilson variety. Then we will fill between the rows with flemingia for a chop and drop and encourage some low level ground cover like pinto peanut and short grasses to grow in the walkways for us to mow down and mulch on the trees. We have here pace Mamey sapote, grafted Ross sapote, bernicker and Wilson Black sapote, and lemon zest mango going in the ground.

https://youtu.be/1gDJnGMjIVs

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Atemoyas that are not recommended
« on: April 04, 2018, 12:56:35 AM »
Go with Geffner or go for the hand pollination.

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I have been having difficulty ripening plantains for consuming raw. We know to wait until they are black but usually the outer flesh is rotten before the inner flesh turns from starch to soft sweet juicy flesh.

Does anyone know if this is because of the variety being grown or if it is based on harvesting time or ambient humidity or available ripening gases in the ripening area?

Big thanks to anyone with a reliable clear answer to this!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dwarf Fijian coconuts
« on: February 27, 2018, 03:49:29 PM »
This is from Oscar/fruitlovers

In my oppinion there are no dwarf coconuts.  However, people refer to coconuts as being dwarf because some varieties start bearing fruits after 2 years of being planted.  I used to grow the yellow "dwarf"; the red "dwarf"; and the green "dwarf".  I prefer the green one.  The water from the green one is sweeter to me.  Currently, I still have a couple green malay and one yellow coconut tree. 
The so called "dwarf" coconuts reach 10 to 12 meters high.  If I had to plant only one variety, I would choose the green malay "dwarf"
In Brasil, an improved green malay "dwarf" variety bears the first crop with the fruits touching the ground.
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Hi Berto, no you are definitely wrong about that. There are real dwarf coconuts. For example Samoan dwarf never gets more than 10 feet tall. You can see them all around these islands, with giant nuts very close to the ground. You are right though, about Malaysian dwarf. This coconut is not really dwarf, just called that because it starts bearing at very young age, so very low to ground, but will eventually get very tall. Not sure about Fijian dwarf as we don't have them here.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Dwarf Fijian coconuts
« on: February 26, 2018, 11:28:42 PM »
Hey everybody,

I am looking to get some truly dwarf Fiji coconuts. I’ve tried contacting the guy in homestead but haven’t succeeded, are there any other reliable sources in Florida?

http://romneyfarms.angelfire.com/coconuts.html

Is it true that Fiji are the only truly dwarf coconuts, I know there may be debate on this topic so mainly what are good resources for Fiji dwarf coconuts.

Thanks for the help


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Update on the Nursery Stock!
« on: January 04, 2018, 01:33:25 PM »
See the website, terrafrutis.com if your willing to abstain from carne while here and your answers to the questionnaire on the website that you send us to apply are agreeable you’ll be welcomed to come and challenge yourself with jungle frugaculture!
Sign me up!, but I still eat a bit of meat

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Update on the Nursery Stock!
« on: January 04, 2018, 12:32:13 AM »
We are building an army, all of the Amazon jungle will eat these fruits! Food for the people, social security via backyard produce, health insurance from organic fruit based food intake, avoid pollution and taxes with homegrown local abundance! Spreading the ideas with irresistibly tasty nectar of godlike quality, some of the best genetics known worldwide turning carnivores into caring lovers of nature! Anyone in South America that is looking for these genetics, feel welcome to contact us, during the coming years we plan to be giving these out to experienced people and nurseries. Terrafrutis.com




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Should be good fun! Don’t forget to bring down some grafted plants bare rooted and scions! Always need more genetics.

Really cool wast you guys are doing there. I hope to visit some day.

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Can we pay for a couple years in advance to secure the forum!?

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Here are some shots of recent grafts I’ve worked. We have a very recent side veneer of Bell carambola, two camouflaged approach grafts of Choquette avocado, two successful musang king approach grafts pushing growth after being removed too abruptly and loosing their leaves. Finally a close up of another approach graft of a lemon zest mango. If I get to eat each of these fruits I will be sofa king happy, really this is a part of living that outdoes most experiences in my opinion.













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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Where to buy Chico Sapote Grafted Plant?
« on: January 03, 2018, 11:43:09 PM »
Those are the same, just Latin name vs common name. Lara farms or Excalibur nursery alano variety.

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Hey there from Terra Frutis down in Ecuador! Summertime here!
I am using air Pruning Trays and Pots to encourage more adventitious root growth and less tap root, in the wet tropics we need to focus on stimulating flower sets, when there is a short dry season a fruit tree may not even be stressed enough to flower which means no fruit. A big factor that causes the plant to get stressed is the supply of water, tap roots go deep to get a reliable water supply while most of the surface adventitious roots reaching to the sides of the tree provide the nutrients from fallen leaves, fungus and hummus.
The roots dry in the air and respond ideally by producing more root growth near the source instead of at the tip like when physically cutting a root. The plants vitality is greatly increased with this process, in the photos are some young ackee trays and underneath a grafted green sapote pot.

Any thoughts, criticism or advice?












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Grows very easily down here in Ecuador, stays small temps can get down to 55 here.

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I can’t tell if the left branch is from the rootstock or from the grafted geffner Atemoya scion.. this came from Excalibur nursery a couple weeks ago. Kind of valueable right now because I don’t have much material and don’t want to make the mistake of using scions of a rootstock. And of course I want to multiply it as fast as possible onto soursop rootstocks I have waiting.














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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tips for tissue culture plants
« on: October 26, 2017, 10:26:03 PM »
What, size and where from?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Water droplets inside grafting tape
« on: October 21, 2017, 05:52:49 PM »
Nice to see how well your doing in Bucharest! Mangoes and bananas n babaco! Thanks for the support most of them are still sealed up. I am keeping a bag tied over the one I opened.

Don't open the graft tape. This is similar to surgery. Pests will go in there. It's transpiration and probably condensation. You have 16 C then 25C it's condensing.
Don't worry about it's healing.
I just made a mango grafting a couple of days ago, you can take a look.https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1641682875854199&id=1043190099036816

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Water droplets inside grafting tape
« on: October 20, 2017, 03:34:03 PM »
What's the humidity in your area? If it's really high, you may not need to cover the graft as much.
2 pm reading.. is 66% humidity 84f 29c.
Can definitely get more humid on rainier days.

So I cut open some of the grafting tape to let the air exchange.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Water droplets inside grafting tape
« on: October 20, 2017, 02:36:45 PM »
So after 2 days I am seeing water drops inside the grafting tape. It has been 4 days now. This is worrying me of course. Any thoughts on the cause and the risks? These are outdoor Some covered with bags some not, both have droplets. 12 mango grafts in total, 2 are already pushin growth. Suggestions for actions to take?   
Ecuador, mixed rainy sunny days, temps are avg 21 degrees C lows are maybe 16-17. Highs are mid to upper 20s. Y foto..




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https://youtu.be/XeL-A9sHsk4

Video says to use ash on the skin and the ants don’t bite so bad anyhow. But also that colonies with different queens will fight to the death. And ignoring intruders when battling between colonies.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Approach grafting Durian
« on: October 03, 2017, 12:52:43 AM »
Will it work? I did two approach grafts and two cleft grafts of musang king today.




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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Top 10 Anona Fruits You've Never Heard Of
« on: September 29, 2017, 12:12:24 AM »
What about soncoya

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Thanks, I am really looking for people with experience with them, how easy are they to eradicate from a certain tree or area? Do they make a tree impossible to climb? How long does the pain last for? We have bullet ants, raider ants, army ants, leaf cutter ants etc so I doubt it can be much worse but I'd like to know exactly what I would be dealing with before I get into it. Do you notice if they mess up flowers or anything that would be considered non beneficial to the tree?

Does limbing for pruning or harvesting become very difficult? Would you say they are in any way worse than other ants?

I have a lot of Green Tree Ants, Oecophylla smaragdina, on my place. In fact they're very common throughout. Years ago I did some research on them and drew the conclusion that their benefits outweighed their negatives. But that's not a view shared by everyone. One thing about them, they don't sting. They bite with mandibles and hold on while arching their abdomen over and spraying their poison. Getting a close up view of them can be painful. They will often spray towards you and if it gets in your eyes you'll know it.

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2017 so far was drier than usual in Ecuador at least sunnier, has been rainy the last month or more.
Harvests were good. Mostly better than the years before for most fruits. Last couple years were usually rainy. 2100mm annual rainfall. 21c avg temp.

Over and out.

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Hello, buenos días,

So we have some ant problems here, we have waited to determine if they were simply a pain to us and not the plants, but now after seeing various trees with many flowers and no fruits that have these ants on them and another type of tiny ant that local Ecuadorian people state damages the plants, we decided to look into our best options to deal with them!

So I have been looking into options so far it seems we have.

Borax and sugar
Baking soda and sugar
Trunk rings of tanglefoot or similar products and Vaseline
Ash
Diatomaceous earth
Soap
Boiling water
Fire
Cinnamon, garlic, cayenne (on a cloth or around base of trunk)
Chemical based Insecticides
Oecophylla longinoda Or weaver ants

Worst types of ants we have so far are leafs cutter ants, they will just chop off a young trees foliage overnight. cambas or tiny fire ants as we call them which leave no eruption but hurt and itch for half an hour or more and usually can't be noticed until many are on you and 10-20 stings can induce a fever, and apparently cause root damage. Black ants that make a termite like trail and molest the flowers beyond acceptable amounts.

We have Implememted a few of these options listed and are looking for something more long term and effective. We are wondering what personal experience people have with Oecophylla longinoda or green/weaver ants how bad their sting is vs their help in a orchard. The bite of green ants might be less than the cambas or black ants which would be worth trading out if they don't damage the trees. Does anyone know if green ants damage any specific trees? Or just help most fruit trees?

I know of a farm(dry climate) that has already imported them to Ecuador but are is a drastically different climate than us here in the humid tropics. I would also like to hear people thoughts on their invasive potential, it seems to me that green ants building a small to large nest is a easy target if they do get out of control. I read they are a great benefit for citrus, coconuts, mangoes and?

Thanks for your information.



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
« on: April 30, 2017, 07:58:14 PM »
gustavia macarenensis, engkala, avocado, durian, olive, dabai, ackee, safou, aguaje, dacryodes rostrata, pangium edule, I think this is all I have for now. Recently searching for fatty fruits also because pleasure found in ackee, durian, gustavia, avocado etc.

Let the hunt continue!

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