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Iíve been attempting citrus. All my trees are pretty young so I can say Iíve been successful or a failure other then a lemon tree that died from what I think was some kind of root problem. Iíve been growing them in partial shade, mulching them with oak leaves and spraying them with oak tea to try and ward off greening.  My biggest challenges right now are bugs and fertilizing correctly. Between leaf miner and Sri Lankan weevils Iím down about 40% of the canopy on some of my smaller trees. Iíve been under fertilizing out of fear of burning them but I think they are much heavier feeders than Iíve been giving them credit and starved. I sprayed them with urea and micros and I think that helped so Iím going to give them another dose this weekend.

I wish you all the best, Please update keep us updated

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Oncorhynchus, you should contact IFAS-Extension Bookstore  UF/IFAS Communication Service PO Box 110011 Gainesville, FL 32611-0011 352-392-2411 and purchase the booklet  "Florida Your Dooryard Citrus Guide" written by Jim Ferguson,   It is a 40 page pamphlet  with color pages  It will tell you everything about growing home Florida citrus.  Very easy reading.

o nice I'll give that a read.

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The University of Florida came out with a list of recommended varieties for Florida door yard citrus that are supposed to be more tollerent of greening. Sugarbelle was at the top of the list, but Persian Limes, Lemons, a California Manderin (Gold Nugget if my memory serves me), the "Jackson Hybrid" (a grapefruit type citrus), and Sundragon an orange hybrid with a "spicy" flavor that includes some  poncirus genetics in its heritage also made the cut. They claim that with adequate fertilization and care, theses varieties can still be productive for the home owner in the face of greening. However, I have yet to see some of these offered for sale anywhere in Florida. Frequent compost applications and regular watering are also helpful from what I have seen. I can spot the groves using compost up here just by how the trees look most of the time.

Thanks, I only new about Sugar bell, but it makes sense that there are ongoing efforts to work around the problems

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I have about a dozen citrus trees in containers that are doing really well so far covered with a protective screen. Itís only been about a year but everything is healthy and growing well. I think as long as you can keep them free of HLB, any soil/ nutrient deficiencies would be fixable.

I've grown them in pots down here and it seems a bit easier since I can control the water and soil. I might have to give it another shot.

Once the imidacloprid drench wheres off it usually goes downhill pretty fast

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HLB (Citrus Greening) is no respecter of mounds, nor sulfur.   If I as going to plant a citrus tree in So. Florida, I would plant a Sugar Belle.  Sugar Belle has shown some resistance to HLB.

I'm been considering Sugar Bell, at least that helps the HLB part of the equation

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Do you know why ďthey ď say to give up on citrus in FL? Maybe because of greening? How is planting on a mound and sulfur going to help for which problem?

Clearly, greening is an issue, as is canker and all the other issues citrus has.
I can't do much else for those issues other than spray to my heart's content or experiment with other horticultural techniques.

Mounds and will help with the saturated soils in South Florida during the rainy season.
Sulfur to help neutralize the alkaline soils that is common south of WPB

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Selling: UF Best Peach scions
« on: January 21, 2021, 06:39:27 PM »
It took a while but I was finally able to locate a UFBest peach on floriguard rootstock.
I'm reasonably confident that this is the real deal.
I found three tags with the same name between the tree and the soil.
Got it from home depot a few years back.

I'm probably going to get rid of this in a year or two, even it took a while to find.
The reason is fruit fly larva.

Anyways the tree is budding out now so if anyone wants some LMK

$2 per scion, minimum is 10 pieces.
shipping is $8 for a flat rate box.
US only.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Cherimoya Seeds WTB
« on: January 21, 2021, 10:04:20 AM »
i should have 300 if you're still interested

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Citrus General Discussion / Growing Citrus in ground in Soflo...Progress
« on: January 20, 2021, 04:17:53 PM »
I know the common thread amongst growers down in South Florida is to basically give up on citrus.

I'm just curious if anyone is still pursuing them, at least for homeowners?
Looking for some tips or tricks that might have been discovered recently.
Citrus seems to cover the Winter/Spring season pretty well.

I figured planting on a mound and apply sulfur every year would be a start.



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
« on: January 20, 2021, 04:08:56 PM »
I finally have enough other mango trees bearing that it is worth a roll of the dice to get off season fruit. Hoping I can sync both Mahas to bear off season every year.

Good idea,
I might try this with a decent portion of my NDM.
They tend to get neglected when the season is going.

Do you just clip off the branch when there are little fruitlets on it?

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One thing to point out as well is that if you let it hold fruit the grafted section won't grow much, so it might get shaded out by the rest of the tree.
I did this with my PC graft.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
« on: January 13, 2021, 01:17:27 PM »
Guava, Kesar, and NDM4 pushing now. More on Sugarloaf. Glenn and OS look to be starting as well.

Paid a chunk to have 2 palm trees chopped and 2 more trimmed, so lots more sun for some shy fruiting trees that were too shaded.

Have a feeling its going to be a sweet mango season.

I agree, just about everything in my yard is pushing flowers now.
It might not be a complete bloom on every tree but i don't mind a staggered crop

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
« on: January 06, 2021, 08:50:27 AM »
Pretty much all the Sugarloaf trees are flowering now.

Sugarloaf is just sounding better and better

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skhan,

Two possibilities, neither of them easy to deal with:

Mango malformation, caused by internal infections of Fusarium Fungus, especially the second photo of your Father's pruned-back tree.  Infected branches should be removed--- cut several inches below the lowest visible infection, and the whole tree should be sprayed with Copper Sulfate Pentahydrate and a penetrant adjuvant.  A separate spray with several nutrients plus Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin-C) can also help.

Microscopic bud-mites.  Prune off infestations.  Follow up with a suffocating oil spray, or with a penetrating miticide.

Thanks Har,

The Juliette has only produced a handful of fruits so far so this gives me an accuse to top work it


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help. I need to buy 400 pot 10 gallon
« on: December 27, 2020, 03:22:57 PM »
Universal supply in pompano

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These are two separate VPs in my father's front yard.
Both seem to have the same issue and don't really fruit that well.





This VP is on the same side where all the mature mango trees have struggled this year. We think the neighbors lawn people put some herbicide down.




Took some more pictures of the what was going on the north side of my dad's property.
I'll definitely get a soil test soon.

Malika (over 10yrs)
It flushed out in summer and the new leaves died back




Juliette (7yrs)
Same problem as Malika, right next door.
My dad cut the branches back after the leaves fell off







Cotton Candy (2yrs)
Wavy new leaves, bunching branches, tiny internode spacing







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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
« on: December 25, 2020, 11:27:02 AM »
You can apply potassium and micros if you want.
Also spray sulfur to prevent PM would be a good idea, same goes for copper.

That being said, i hardly get a chance to do any of that, hopefully this year

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Growing persimmon in FL
« on: December 25, 2020, 08:57:42 AM »
One more thing to consider is that the ones they graft down here (at least what i've seen from ZHPP) are grafted on native persimmon stock.
Fairchild garden has a write up on growing them too.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
« on: December 22, 2020, 03:46:50 PM »
Got some action on Cac as well

I see buds pushing on OS, E-4, Pickering

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Here some pictures of abiu pilosa. Which is torta ssp glabra i think.








Heres a picture of a regular abiu



I got to do something about the scale

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Himsagar Lehore. Any fans of this variety
« on: December 21, 2020, 11:14:22 AM »
I had it a few times, i liked it.
It had that "classic-acid" flavor which was surprising because most mangos from that region have some type of resin notes. (I still prefer a good Neelam though)
Its also a late-season mango so that's great too

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
« on: December 21, 2020, 09:14:41 AM »
seeing a mixed flush on my NDM.
Angie and Zinc look like they're pushing

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Thanks guys,

The plants don't get as much fertilizer as they should and there have been fruit trees all over the yard for over 20 years so I'm sure the soil is depleted.
I'll start adding some potassium and magnesiun.

We are out near the glades and he fill in his pool about 4 years ago.
 

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These are two separate VPs in my father's front yard.
Both seem to have the same issue and don't really fruit that well.





This VP is on the same side where all the mature mango trees have struggled this year. We think the neighbors lawn people put some herbicide down.




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One word of warning about Malay apple, it seems like the common nursery stock in Florida (at least from PIN) is not that great.
I had 3 planted so far, one fruit after 8 years (only year to fruit) it been there for like 15 years at this point
I also have one planted at my current house since 2014 and no flowers yet.

Seems like everyone I know who bring seeds from "back home" has much better success with the quality fruit and precocity

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