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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What's wrong with this mango tree?
« on: November 02, 2015, 05:24:30 AM »
It's hard to believe you ripened 2 fruits from this one 2.5 ft tree. But, that would totally explain why you have had no growth whatsoever. I have seen this in one of my trees. I let a five foot Keitt mango tree hold 6 fruits a couple years ago and had no growth the following year. Sure, it would be nice to taste your fruits sooner, but patience will give you a much better harvest later. Let the tree grow. I agree with Bsbullie, and I think he really knows what he's talking about (except when it comes to the flavor of Carrie mangos:)) And I definitely would not dig it up and pot it. I think you will just put it farther behind. Just my own thoughts...

E.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Pests, Diseases, and Nutritional Problems
« on: October 31, 2015, 03:05:44 AM »
So how does one remedy boron deficiency? is there a product you guys use for this

You can sprinkle some borax around the dripline of the tree and then water it in. Be careful though not to use too much because then you will be dealing with B toxicity. Roach killing powders are usually made of Borax. You can find them at a dollar store around here!  8)

E.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dwarf Hawaiian mango
« on: October 31, 2015, 02:50:25 AM »
Thank you for your comments and sharing your experiences. Not a lot of info on this one... If it tastes a little like Carrie with some fiber, then it may be worth a try - Carrie being one of my favorites! ;D Maybe I will head down south to pick up a few from TT this coming season. Does anyone know if the Zill farms have any Dwarf Hawaiian to buy(tree or fruit)?

E.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: help with identify if this is a real alphonso that I purchased from Topt..
« on: October 24, 2015, 04:28:37 PM »
In a yellow leaf, it will be much more pronouned, kind of like it is ripe. I tried a couple fruits off my tree this year. They had good flavor but did not ripen correctly. Hopefully next year will be better. Have fun! ;D

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: help with identify if this is a real alphonso that I purchased from Topt..
« on: October 23, 2015, 11:41:34 PM »
My Alphonso is quite vigorous and wants to grow upward. Not droopy at all.

Erik

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: help with identify if this is a real alphonso that I purchased from Topt..
« on: October 23, 2015, 11:38:29 PM »
Quote from: knlim000 on October 23, 2015, 02:45:28 PM
help with identify if this is a real alphonso that I purchased from Topt..

http://forums.gardenweb.com/discussions/3457713/help-does-this-alphonso-mango-look-like-it-is-alphonso-to-you


Hi knlim000,
I agree with the two experts above that it is difficult to really say for certain if it is an alphonso at such a young age. Looking at the picture which you circled, the leaves do resemble my alphonso. But one thing I can tell you is that the Alphonso leaves have a very distinct perfumey smell. If you have a leaf that is yellowing on the plant, snap it off and shred it in your hands. You should smell a very distinct, pleasant, sweet (IMO) aroma. Its one of the things I love about the tree. I believe that this aroma adds to the flavor of the mango and this is why so many people, especially Indians, think it is the finest mango on earth. But unfortunately, the tree does not produce very well in Florida. As I understand it, if you spray with copper a couple of times during fruit set, you are much more likely to get a good crop. Hope this helps. Good luck!

Erik

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Any Info on Cotton Candy Mango?
« on: October 23, 2015, 11:18:24 PM »
Rob, thank you for the info on the Cotton candy! I was hoping you would chime in. You are a wealth of knowledge when it comes to mangoes!!! ;D ;D I am curious, how many trees do you have and what are your favorites and why?

And thanks for the link, Future. I think I was reading that discussion and it's what got me interested in the Cotton candy. I am one of those people who cannot imagine a mango that is too sweet! The sweetest I've tried so far would probably be the NDM. Love the discussion boards with all the different varieties and opinions. You all rock!!!

E.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: If you had to start again, what varieties of mango would you plant?
« on: October 23, 2015, 12:54:21 AM »
Quote from: horseshoe_bayou on October 22, 2015, 12:47:25 PM
unfortunately I am out of room for more trees but I would love to graft a variety here and there, maybe everywhere. ;D
I'm looking forward to trying some of the varieties I've heard about here next season.

varieties I have not tried yet such as:

providence
guava
zinc
LZ

and I would like to continue to evaluate fruit from others like*:     

M4
P or k 22?!
pineapple passion or pleasure?!
fruit punch
Honey kiss
Sweet tart
venus

*On this list besides the first two mentioned, I realized after talking to Rob that it may have not been properly picked and ripened fruit so I hope to get more of them in my belly earlier in the season next summer.

 I'm also really hoping to get my hands on "cotton candy"; I'd like to try that one most of all and see how it compares to M4. Or are they the same?! cue the suspenseful/  dramatic music! dun dun  duhn!  8)

What is a Pork 22 ?!?  Sounds like a really bad new Zill mango name! Haha! ;D ;D ;D  I also hope we will see Cotton Candy someday. Or at least some better early and late season varieties. If only wishes came true...

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Dwarf Hawaiian mango
« on: October 21, 2015, 11:40:38 PM »
Does anyone have any experience eating or growing Dwarf Hawaiian mango? Looking for an early season mango cultivar. Positives and negatives of the tree? Thanks!

E.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Any Info on Cotton Candy Mango?
« on: October 21, 2015, 11:34:17 PM »
Does anyone have any info on the Cotton Candy mango? I read on another thread that it is a late season mango and i'm searching for a good one. Is that true about it being late season? What about flavor, disease resistance, tree size and precociousness? Any info is greatly appreciated. ;D

Erik

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: nam doc mai 4 flowering
« on: October 21, 2015, 11:21:30 PM »
Best thing to do is build a structure, say out of pvc or wood or whatever, and then cover all sides of it with some sort of material. Voila!! you have a greenhouse! Place a heat lamp inside when the temp drops into the thirties. Your flowers will die at anything below 40.

If you don't want to go through that much trouble, wrap the tree with some sort of cloth - (not anything plastic, like a tarp), and string up some old style c-7 or c-9 Christmas lights to keep in some warmth. If it gets really cold, make sure to protect the trunk and at least one main branch. That way you will not lose the tree. I really hope it never gets that cold though! ;D

E.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Seedling mango getting too tall.
« on: October 21, 2015, 10:53:56 PM »
That is a nice healthy looking seedling. I would cut it 1/3 to 1/2 the way down to promote branching. If it's not a polyembrionic seed, I would graft something to it. Chances are it will not be as good as the parent tree. Cleft grafting seems to be the easiest to take.

E.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: If you had to start again, what varieties of mango would you plant?
« on: October 21, 2015, 10:47:03 PM »
The varieties I would plant would have both qualities to extend the season and be the best tasting in my opinion of course.
If only four trees, I would plant:

1. Rosigold - good flavor, consistent, dwarf and earliest.
2. Carrie - One of the best mangoes (if you like the flavor) , compact tree, good disease resistance.
3. Lemon Zest - Another of the best mangoes ever. Maybe the GOAT.
4. A late season would be difficult as there are not many choices. Keitt is good and very late and excellent producer. Although I would prefer a mango with a little more flavor. Neelam, not so sure about. I have never tasted one but read that many do not like it. I am intrigued by the new Cotton candy mango. Does anyone know if it is really a late season mango? What about flavor, tree growth and productivity? This is one I would consider, being from the mango powerhouse of Zill ;D ;D ;D :P :P :P

Also, as to madame francis. I have a tree and its a very good flavored mango. But I am now a mango snob I think and I just can't get over the fiber. There are so many other excellent varities out there. Thinking about top working that one and also my Haden.

E.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Last mangoes hanging on trees this year
« on: August 25, 2015, 05:38:38 AM »
Just picked my last Graham. I have 2 LZ left on the tree and about 10 NDM hanging. I have been eating NDM since the middle of June. Seems like extended season to me! Is that typical of NDM? This is the first year harvesting them. :)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What is your favorite latest season mango?
« on: August 02, 2015, 12:59:01 AM »
Quote from: ajtropicals on August 01, 2015, 09:29:20 PM
I have been reading various posts on a late season mango and here is the list I have gathered so far.

Keitt - I tasted this recently and liked it, general consensus is that Keitt is the latest in the season.
Beverly - I tasted this recently and liked it, not sure if this is as late as Keitt/Neelam.
Neelam - I haven't tasted this yet, but my young tree has one mango and I am waiting for it to ripen, there are mixed reviews about it, Neelam could be as late as Keitt.
Kent - I have one older tree with decent amount of fruits, but I liked Keitt and Beverly better, not as late as Keitt/Neelam.
Honey kiss - I haven't tasted this, but seeing good reviews about it, not sure if this is as late as Keitt/Neelam

I am tempted to look for a Keitt, but I read that it may be difficult to grow at PIN site (http://www.tropicalfruitnursery.com/mango/keitt-mango.shtml) and also in some posts. Though lot of fruits on my Kent gets hit by Anthracnose pretty badly, based on PIN explanation, fruits are disease resistant, so I guess not to worry much on that part. Should I stay away from it as PIN states that juvenile trees are disease prone and hard to grow?

What are your favorite late ones, how late are they in season?


I have a keitt tree about 5 years old that started as a whip and has had no problems at all. I mulch and give it some fert and it grows fine. Good disease resistance and seems very productive most years. I have wondered why PIN says they are difficult to grow. I would say to get one if you have the room. Just my experience...

Also, I think Kent and Beverly are the best tasting later mangos. Not really sure how much later Beverly is than Kent though. I have seen other posts that mention Venus, Providence, and Honey Kiss as good late alternatives, but have not taste tested any. Hope to change that soon ;D

E.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best Tasting Mangos of 2015?
« on: August 01, 2015, 04:24:27 AM »
Quote from: bsbullie on July 30, 2015, 07:39:15 AM
Anything is possible but what you are describing just sounds odd, especially with more than just 1 fruit.  Compost should not have any effect on this.  A picture would tell the story.  Its very easy to post a picture.


Here are some pictures of my last Bombay. It was one of the smaller ones on the tree. Weighed in at 1 lb 9.2oz. ;D[][/img]





It was a little over-ripe and soft in some areas, but was still very delicious! ;D
E.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help with a mango ID..?
« on: July 31, 2015, 06:16:49 AM »
Yep, my first thought was kent too from looking at the pics. BTW, you need a few more trees in your yard before you are officially a mango fanatic!:)
E.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What is it with Angie mango???
« on: July 30, 2015, 10:01:14 PM »
Thank you for all the responses! I have some hope that Angie may still be worthy to plant in my limited area. The only "early mango I have at present is Rosigold and would like another to kick the season off. And if some people think it tastes like Carrie and some like Edward, don't see how I could go wrong... Those are two of my favorites!

E.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best Tasting Mangos of 2015?
« on: July 30, 2015, 06:14:43 AM »
Hey Rob,

Like I said, maybe they were bigger due to fruit thinning. Or, come to  think of it, I also have a compost pile sitting nearby the tree so maybe it is getting some extra valuable nutrients:) I don't know... But, I have had hundreds of hadens and kents and my "Bombay" mangoes were larger than those in general. I actually have one of the smallest ones(Bombay) left in my refrigerator. I will try to get a weight for you. I would guess a pound and a half or more. I may even take a pic and post, if I can figure out how. It was tagged as Bombay, had Zill writing on side of pot "Bmby", I believe. I'm not saying that it could not possibly be another variety, but from what I've read seems to point to Bombay. I also tried to cut around the equator with one and separate and it almost worked... Almost no fibers from the seed holding the flesh. I can see how you could twist it apart. Just my experience with this mango.

E.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best Tasting Mangos of 2015?
« on: July 30, 2015, 04:31:54 AM »
Quote from: bsbullie on July 29, 2015, 08:14:48 AM
Quote from: HMHausman on July 29, 2015, 07:55:17 AM
Quote from: Brev Grower on July 29, 2015, 02:51:24 AM
3. Bombay - Huge delicious tangy/sweet mango, very tasty.

Could you please define "huge?"

You beat me to it and took the words right out of my mouth.

Ok, so I did not weigh the mangos that came from my tree... But larger than your average haden or kent and smaller than the larger Keitt mangos. If I had to guess, they were close to two pounds. There was enough flesh that I had trouble eating the entire mango in one sitting. And I like eating at least one or two "average" size mangos per day. One reason I think they may have been larger than usual is I had a lot of fruit drop when only golf ball size. I had some natural thinning of fruit. My 10' tall by 10' wide tree gave me only ten mangos of about 30 or so that set. Hence, bigger, tastier fruit. I was surprised at how good the flavor was, and the large size(with huge, fat shoulders and a very sunken stem) It was great! IMHO.

E.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / What is it with Angie mango???
« on: July 29, 2015, 05:54:29 AM »
A couple of years ago, Angie mango was all the rage. Now I see that people are either digging theirs out or topworking. Is it a good mango or not??? Also, it's supposed to be early season. Any truth to that statement? Would love to hear what everyone thinks ;D ;D ;D

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: No nam doc mai splits this year in south Florida NDM
« on: July 29, 2015, 03:02:42 AM »
Zands,

Funny, I just posted about this to you on another thread - Best tasting mangos of 2015. Out of 40 or so mangos and a very rainy last 30 days, only two or three splits on small, low hanging fruits. The rest have been ripening nicely on the tree. Probably have 10 or 15 more to go...

E.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best Tasting Mangos of 2015?
« on: July 29, 2015, 02:51:24 AM »
1. Carrie - Have not found a better mango yet!
2. Edward - I know why they still sell this mango even if it is a moderately shy bearer. The Edwards I had this year were outstanding!
3. Bombay - Huge delicious tangy/sweet mango, very tasty.
4. LZ - I know it is supposed to be the GOAT, but the flavor was a little bit of a letdown this year IMO.
5. NDM4 - Its been raining like crazy for the last month(probably about 8 inches) and only had 2 or 3 small fruit split out of forty. Maybe I'm just very Blessed? I do have some non-permeable material around the base of the tree...

E.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Reviews
« on: July 29, 2015, 02:31:08 AM »
Quote from: zands on July 26, 2015, 09:42:05 AM
Lemon zest comment:
About seven days ago I had the last lemon zest off my tree. It has lots more of the orange flavor throughout the flesh. Usually this is most noticeable near the skin when you scrape the final flesh off.

Maybe lemon zest gets more of an orange flavor in the last third of the harvest? Maybe it gets more orange flavor as the tree gets older? Maybe drier years produce it?

Zands,

I too have noticed that my LZs have tasted more like lemon candy this year, than like orange sherbert from previous year. I have been picking them early due to worries of mango thieves. But my last 4 I will leave on the tree to see if it will attain the orange flavor that blew me away last time. It has been raining a lot here in the last month. But essentially no rain the previous two or three. And, I'll try the tip about scraping the flesh with the spoon... Thanks!

E

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: mango recommendation
« on: July 29, 2015, 01:56:03 AM »
If you have ever have the opportunity to taste a Carrie and like it - I say plant CARRIE! Smallish, compact growth habit which is easy to control and does not have a lot of fungal/disease problems. At least here in Central Florida. And if you are able to get your hands on trees, would you not be able to get some fruit to try??? I'm actually thinking of trying to topwork my Haden to a Carrie... Just food for thought! Also, Julie might do well on an island with lots of salt air sea breezes - but in my yard it seems to have serious fungal issues. I'm located about 8 miles from the beach. Also , Julie is the grandparent of Carrie, so you might want to try first. Good luck with your choice and planting!!!

E.

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