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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Potted Mango in KS
« on: July 24, 2016, 10:20:56 PM »
I would second the vote for a pickering tree. Very dwarf and precocious. Another possibility You might consider is a rosigold mango. It is dwarf and mine has been very productive at 5-6 feet. 25 mangos last year,50 mangos this year on kind of a scraggly tree. Fruit size is on the smaller side, but this may be beneficial in your situation. Not my favorite mango flavor, but I have a lot of friends who really like it. It will definitely beat a store bought mango.

Ice cream and Julie were the other possibilities, but I think they are a little more finicky about soil pH and nutrients and disease issues(At least her in FL.). I basically just mulch my trees as they are in ground.

I would definitely rule out Glenn, Cogshall, NDM, and Mallika. Manilita I am not very familiar with.

Fairchild might be an option, again because of the small fruit size and the tree would be considered semi-dwarf here in FL.

Good luck in your adventure!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best tasting Mangos of 2016
« on: July 24, 2016, 09:58:06 PM »
I've only had a couple NDM this year so far, but they seem to be a little more flavorful than last year. I would call it more complex because it has a more acidic component and not just honey sweet. But it could be that I was eating it a little more green too.  :)

So far this year:

1. Lemon zest - just awsome lemon candy flavored! Still have some on the tree, tops are yellowing... I actually grafted LZ to three other trees for more production in upcoming years. Oh yeah!
2. Carrie - One of the best mangos ever! Let the harassment from the peanut gallery begin!! ;D ;D Just not able to get my hands on many this year... Also grafted Carrie to my Haden tree:)
3. Edward - Always a  delightful, smooth, creamy mango eating experience. Trying to graft Edward to Alphonso...
4. Bombay - Rich, juicy and delicious! 4 mangos left on tree although I bet the squirrels or racoons will take one tonight. Grrrrr!
5. NDM - Had one split, but it was still pretty tasty. Eaten in the mature green stage. 15 or so still on the tree waiting for full ripening. I've seen other people here complain of jelly seed, but so far I haven't seen an issue with mine and I try to let them ripen on the tree. Very dry here though for about 1 month.

Honorable mention - Pickering was pretty good this year although not one of my favorite mangoes.
E.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Nam Doc Mai mango ?
« on: July 19, 2016, 12:01:52 AM »
I had a small split NDM I cut off the tree the other day and the side opposite the split was delicious the following day or two. Firm but very sweet. I would think they would be ready to start picking and should ripen perfectly, even off the tree. Just my 2 cents...

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I don't see a picture of your tree, but I would take a scion that is on top growing toward the center of your tree, since you would prune that anyway. Wait until the buds start to swell but are not close to pushing flush as Bsbullie said. Do not cut below the previous internode for your scion. Use a SIDE VENEER or CLEFT graft, they seem to be the easiest IMO. If doing cleft graft, make sure the scion is slightly bigger than the rootstock you are grafting to(Thanks Guabanas(Har) from TT). Wrap entire graft in parafilm, or cover with a plastic bag or sleeve to keep in humidity. Move to shaded area if possible.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: When are they Ready to Eat (Mangos)
« on: June 23, 2016, 04:22:52 AM »
That looks a lot like a Haden mango. The bottom should start to turn yellow while still on the tree. Then it's time to pick. Let it ripen on the counter until fully yellow and red. Enjoy! Still a good mango IMHO.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: new mango trees with different tastes
« on: June 23, 2016, 04:16:33 AM »
Pickering is a well liked mango universally. It is also a dwarf tree with a precocious bearing habit. It really makes a lot of fruit for its size. I think it is an average tasting mango. But if you are looking for a very unique flavored mango( some people think strong flavored), then you should really try a Carrie mango. It has absolutely no fiber and can be bruised if it falls from the tree onto the ground. A friend of mine and my son and I think it is one of the best mangoes in the world. Much more unique than Pickering. Although Pickering is a good mango too. Just my two cents...

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: new mango trees with different tastes
« on: June 21, 2016, 01:44:37 AM »
I notice your topic is mango of a different taste.  With that in mind, I think I would tell you that Carrie is one of the most different flavored mangoes. It's not an acidic mango. On the contrary, I think it is one of the sweetest mangoes I have tasted with an excellent flavor. A lot of people describe it as having a very piney flavor, somewhat similar to Julie(which would be another "different" mango). It has a very soft texture when ripe and it totally fiberless. A joy to eat! However, some people, who I don't understand:), do not like the flavor. BSbullie is one... So, maybe you should try one first before planting. Also not sure how they taste/perform in CA. Maybe JF can fill you in. But I think Carrie is worth serious consideration.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: When will Haden be ready to pick?
« on: June 21, 2016, 01:07:58 AM »
For the best flavor, leave on the tree as long as possible. All the green/purple area will turn to yellow and bright red. If left to do so on the tree, you will have very high sugar content. This is the best way to ripen a Haden IMO. Also, if you have squirrels, use a strawberry container(plastic clamshell) to protect from those critters!! Enjoy! ;D ;D

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Another ID Request
« on: June 17, 2016, 01:08:16 AM »
Thanks. Has your tree fruited and if so, how do thy taste?

I don't know if I would plant that or not. I have a pink guava and it is a sooty mold and fruit fly magnet. Sure, it is easy to grow and produces lots of fruit, but they are filled with maggots. I'm going to pull mine out and replace it with something better. As far as taste? Slightly sweet with a pear like flesh loaded with tiny rock hard seeds. I mean break your teeth kind of seeds! Oh yeah, also has worms from the flies laying eggs. Did I mention that? :P I would pass... But I also don't like spraying my fruit with pesticides. So, if you do that, maybe you'll like it. I just don't think it is very good. My pennies ;D

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: When are they Ready to Eat (Mangos)
« on: June 17, 2016, 12:56:33 AM »
Hey, nice mangoes! I usually go by softness and aroma. If there is a little give to the mango and it smells really good, it's usually ready for the knife and spoon! Yum! If you like to refrigerate your mangoes, the aroma is not nearly as prevalent.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango id help
« on: June 17, 2016, 12:51:36 AM »
Any guesses?  Taste is excellent , one of my favorite so far



So where did you get them? A picture of the inside would be useful for ID purposes. Amount of fiber, texture, color, etc. Maybe even a pic of the tree would help.

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from top left to right, mapalehu, vallenato, brahm kei meu, okrung,
bottom are cogshall, alphonso (early drop, not ready), carabao (i think) and kook lom krong (kook are my fav right now),
glenn are just starting to ripen here too



That one doesn't look like carabao. Too big and they don't have that pointy end. Looks more like my NDM except for the color. Usually a more uniform light yellow. How did they taste?
E.


Honestly it tastes and reminds me of the Cebu mango they have in the Philippines. Still a good mango


Do you mean the Guimaras mango from the island of Guimaras? Never heard of the Cebu mango. Almost all philippine or carabao(guimaras) mangoes I have seen turn totally yellow when ripe. But yes, they are a good mango. Guimaras mangoes are mangoes known for being served at the White House. Unfortunately, I don't remember exactly where I read that...
E.

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from top left to right, mapalehu, vallenato, brahm kei meu, okrung,
bottom are cogshall, alphonso (early drop, not ready), carabao (i think) and kook lom krong (kook are my fav right now),
glenn are just starting to ripen here too



That one doesn't look like carabao. Too big and they don't have that pointy end. Looks more like my NDM except for the color. Usually a more uniform light yellow. How did they taste?
E.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 100 Plus Year Old Mango Tree
« on: June 13, 2016, 06:30:04 AM »
Here are some pictures of old trees I've seen in central Florida. I'm not sure the age of the trees, but they seem to be pretty common near the coast (both in Brevard and Manatee counties). I wonder what variety some of the very old ones must be. Reasoner's nursery in Bradenton sold a greater variety of mango than one would expect over 100 years ago (mostly from India, but also some old Florida types like Haden), so there could be some interesting gems hidden in plain sight.

https://archive.org/stream/CAT31295471#page/6/mode/2up

It is nice to see these giant trees, some larger than the local live oaks, laden with fruit. It seems like a lot of the local big trees only produce fruit every 2 or 3 years, but when they do it's a large crop.









That middle picture is a Kent mango tree. Great fruit!! And I try to get a few mangos from it each year. The owner is a very nice gentleman and will sell them 2 for $1 when they ripen. :) Oops, maybe I should not say anything and keep it a secret!! :)
E.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Are these Haden or Tommy Atkins?
« on: June 13, 2016, 12:22:14 AM »
This picture I found on Google seems to be the opposite of Brev's Hadens...below shows more purple on the Tommies.





Those look like Fairchild mango festival pics. Iv'e noticed that their mangos are very bright and colorful in general ( at least compared to mine). I believe it is what they feed them, just the straight potassium and very little nitrogen. I believe it is one of Dr. Campbell goals to achieve those nice colors on their mangos. I don't care as long as they taste good. In fact, i would prefer an ugly mango so as to deter people and animals going after your fruit!! :) :)
E.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Are these Haden or Tommy Atkins?
« on: June 12, 2016, 12:09:19 AM »
My Hadens tend to have a little more purple blush at the top. As soon as you cut into it, you'll know. You can hear the fibers with a serrated knife. Tommies are yellowish inside, Hadens are more orange in my experience. And if you still can't tell, the taste is a sure give away. Tommy doesn't taste very good.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: i love wild jack...
« on: May 17, 2016, 07:38:45 PM »
That looks like marang from the Philippines. But with more yellow color. How is the taste? Sweet and Tangy or creamy?
E.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Fruit Set and Retention
« on: April 26, 2016, 12:13:00 AM »
Hey John, I've noticed in my yard anyway that most mangos seem to drop their fruit and mature only what they are capable of. My two small pickerings have some fruit that they hopefully will mature. There are a couple in the past two years that have lost everything: Coconut Cream and Carrie ( actually my Carrie never even set a fruit after a really impressive bloom this year). My coco cream still has one lonely mango about half the size of a golf ball which I expect to drop any day now.
On the flip side though, my Rosigold hangs on to way too many mangos. Last year my little five foot tree matured 20 decent mangos. Right now its holding over 100, though I expect maybe 40-50 to mature, but I will thin some. It's around 7ft. Another good producer has been Choc-anon - should get about 40 mangos from 8Ft tree. My Bombay is about 10 ft tall and hopefully ripens about 50 mangos - these were really sweet and delicious last year!! Graham will probably give 20-25 mangos from 6Ft tree this year also. These seem to be my most productive trees this year with the wet weather we had during flowering. I think its good info to report which trees perform under humid/wet conditions. I hope everyone has great mangos this year!

E.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Edward or Edgar? Based just on flavor
« on: April 16, 2016, 02:20:43 AM »
I love the Edward. One of the best mangos!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: advice on slow mango grafts
« on: April 16, 2016, 02:02:08 AM »
Agree with above. Leave it alone. As long as it's still green, you have a chance of it pushing new growth. I let a graft sit for almost 6 months before it pushed a flower panicle... Now just waiting for new leaves.
E.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: First mango blooms of the 2016 season
« on: March 07, 2016, 01:30:25 AM »
Wow, Murahilin! That is one bodacious bloom on the lemon zest! I have been fortunate, I have a lemon zest by the street and no thieves yet... I think the fact they stay mostly green really helps. I'd start picking mature green if they are getting stolen.

My first to flower and set a couple of fruits were my Bombay, (which has a mango about the size of a golf ball), and my Graham ( a couple pea sized fruitlets). Strange that my Graham started this early. We'll see if they hold to maturity. The blooms are coming now about 2 weeks after the cold fronts we had in late February. All of my mangos except 4yr PPK and 1yr Fruit Punch and 1yr Sweet tart are blooming. Now, time to start praying for the dry weather!! Powdery mildew was rampant last year and really cut down on the number of mangos harvested. Thank goodness my Asian mangos weren't very affected, or I would have only had a couple. If it's wet again this year, I plan to spray copper.

E.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: taking a chance on 9b -Mango
« on: January 19, 2016, 01:04:18 AM »
Your best bet would be to plant on the south side of the house as close as possible to a warm structure. Hopefully your house will protect your tree from the cold north wind. What city do you live in? If it tends to frost each year, you want to protect it, especially while young. Some people here may disagree but I will use old c7 or c9 christmas light strings for warmth and cover the tree with blanket to help keep in warmth. This has worked for me so far in Brevard county. If it were to freeze or the tree were too big to protect with blankets, I would wrap the trunk and at least 1 limb with heat. If no precip forcast, then electric blanket would do. By doing this, you should at least save the tree. Extreme, I know, but most of us here are extreme fruit freaks!!! I want to keep my mangos as long as possible! Good luck to you!
E.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Where are the Mango Blooms?
« on: December 17, 2015, 06:52:34 AM »
I walked out into my yard today and noticed my first tree with mango panicles forming! It was my Bombay mango! None of my others have shown any signs of flowering. I'm trying to be patient...

E.

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I have a Fantastic Avacado tree planted about four years ago. Fruit is good.

E.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Top[ grafted Mango
« on: November 05, 2015, 01:37:04 AM »
I love the Carrie mango and would suggest it highly. But, if you have never tasted it, you should give it a try first. It's very sweet, creamy and has an ultra smooth texture. The flesh is very soft, almost like pudding. Hence, it will bruise easily. But the flavor is phenomenal!!! (IMO)...

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