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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: New to Mango Trees: Is this normal?
« on: March 31, 2020, 10:28:41 PM »
Your tree looks OK. Relax and put it in shade right now and let it recover. Do not plant it in the ground now.

I bought my Sweet Tart in 2015 like you and it did fine. I sold it a few years later after I had finished using it for grafting stock.


Citrus General Discussion / Re: Shasta Gold Mandarin
« on: March 28, 2020, 08:11:19 AM »
I have not tried the Tahao Gold.  I believe years ago, Gary at laguna Hills Nursery, told me the Tahao Gold does not perform as well hear in So Calif. At the time he was selling Shasta Gold. I found the Yosemite Gold tree at Clausen Nursery in Vista but I don't believe they propagate it now, unfortunately. So for I have been very happy with the fruit quality and growth of the Yosemite Gold at my location. The fruit is large, seedless, juicy and richly flavored. Recently I have been making juice from my YG and it is awesome. As the tree fills out it will look even more attractive.

The Yosemite Gold is the best overall mandarin tree I have ever grown and I have tried a lot of them over the years going back to the 1980s.


Citrus General Discussion / Re: Shasta Gold Mandarin
« on: March 27, 2020, 10:02:20 PM »

My tree is putting on new growth now and yes the tree should be wider and bushier compared to a slimmer more columnar appearance it has now. 

The reason for this is in early 2019 I removed a similar size Tango Mandarin tree that was just seven feet south of the YG.  This tango tree blocked light from the midsection down of my Yosemite Gold resulting in poor growth in these areas. Now that there is much more light reaching all of the Yosemite Gold it should fill out nicely in the next several years.

The Tango did not work out at my coastal location. The Tango produced a good quantity of fruit but it remained high acidity even into spring. I suspect it would do much better inland with more heat. My area is fairly mild being about 4-5 miles from the coast. Also as I mentioned this tree was partially blocking light to my YG Mandarin tree which produces much superior fruit at my location. Taking out the Tango was a good move for my situation. I should have never planted a Tango and in retrospect, it was too close to the Yosemite Gold to begin with.


Citrus General Discussion / Re: Shasta Gold Mandarin
« on: March 27, 2020, 04:38:48 PM »
Shasta Gold Mandarin is an excellent piece of fruit. Very similar in taste in my Yosemite Gold which has now been in the ground 9 years from a small pot. Everybody I turn on to the Yosemite Gold loves them. While their sugar level is not as high as a Gold Nugget at its peak the Shasta/Yosemite Golds have a very rich and distinctive strong mandarin flavor that I love.

Here is a recent photo of my nine-year-old Yosemite Gold Mandarin on C-35 rootstock.  This year we have over 250 fruit and there is still some left on the top. We start picking in January and go until late April.

The tree is fairly vigorous and the leaves are dark green.



Yosemite Gold Mandarine Tree 3-25-2020

My Coconut Cream mango tree has been flowering for several weeks now. Will let it set a modest crop in 2020. I still want to focus my young mango trees toward vegetative growth vs fruit.  My Sweet Tart is also flowering well. (See Photos)


 Coco Cream Flowering 3-14-2020

Sweet Tart 3-22-2020

Sweet Tart Flowers

If productivity is your priority then get a Mauritius.  This is the most consistent lychee producer.

I would avoid Kaimana outside Hawaii as production is low to inconsistent based on my research at the time.


Last year i was considering purchasing a Kaimana lychee tree at Mimosa Nursery in L.A. They has several nice looking specimens available at that time.

I had a frank discussion with the owner of mimosa as he planted a Kaimanda at his house eight years ago. He indicated the fruit quality was very good but production was very low. I appreciated his honesty. I decided against the purchase and bought a Brewster and Mauritius lychee instead.  I hope you have better luck with fruit production on your Kaimana than he did.


Citrus General Discussion / Re: grafting scion from CCCP
« on: March 06, 2020, 11:23:05 PM »
I also ordered some bud wood from CCPP in February 2020 and so far I have 100% takes using both cleft and bud grafts in my 6 X 8 Harbor Freight greenhouse with a small Patron heater (fast growth). The grafts I did outside in late winter on some existing citrus trees are mixed. We shall see but last year in 2019 my outdoor grafts this time of year has about a 50%-60% success rate (with much slower growth). My citrus grafts in September 2019 had a 30% success rate. Having a greenhouse with consistently warm temperatures made a huge difference for me. My mangos are growing like crazy in my greenhouse.  Just my experience.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What is your 2020 grafting list?
« on: February 23, 2020, 08:40:02 PM »
I am currently grafting numerous citrus and apple scions. Apples are really easy to graft with a high take rate.

In spring will graft a number of Avocado and loquat scions.

In early summer will graft many mangos including Orange Sherbet, Orange Essence, Guava, Son Pari, Butter Cream, Cac, Seacrest and a newly released zill cultivar called Raw Honey.

I purchased the Mango trees from Florida and put them in my greenhouse where they continue to grow and flush even in the winter. From these, I will use the scions to graft onto existing mango rootstock (Manila & Ataulfo) already in the ground and well established.

After I am done grafting with the Florida Turpentine trees I will sell them and just watch my newly grafted trees grow.


Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Jan Boyce scion for sale
« on: February 10, 2020, 12:10:09 PM »
I would like to get some but not until late March or Early April when temps are warmer and growth is well underway.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Will it or won’t it.
« on: January 13, 2020, 08:00:28 PM »
High heat in the summer does help but long term success has yet to be determined and you have a rootstock that is adapted to Florida, not California.

You need 8-10 years of growing experience to determine success at your location. You're too green to claim victory yet Brother.

Take Simon's advice and grow seedling and use them as rootstock.

Learning to Graft opens a wide range of new possibilities. Conversely not being able to grade severely limits your success and options.

Start to learn to graft with Apples, they are the easiest. Mangos are the Hardest relatively but the skill can be acquired in time.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Will it or won’t it.
« on: January 13, 2020, 06:30:07 PM »
Take simons advice and learn to graft Brother. Life will be a lot easier.

Your tree is a goner.

Florida rootstock (Turpentine) is a real hit and miss usually, miss.

For Best Results Mangos also like sandy soil with high permeability. If your soil is heavy (Clay) you will need to mix in 30% pumice to help break it up and give your trees a better chance.


At My location the following are wonderful.

In Order

1.  Mangos - Newer top Zill Cultivars tree-ripened.
2.  Tropic Gold  or Royal Apricots - Tree Ripened in June (Rich complex flavor, store Apricots suck)
3.  Fresh Homegrown Strawberries
4.  Fresh Farmers Market Big Cherrys (at peak firmness and flavor, if they are soft & overripe they suck)
5.  Fresh Homegrown Blueberries (Southmoon in particular)
6.  Homegrown apples (Not fuji but lesser know varieties from days past) Multi Grafted Trees work well. Apples are easy to graft.
7.  Kinnow Mandarin tree-ripened in May (Best Tasting Late Season Mandarin). Washington Navel Orange in March is also Great.
8.  Mulberries - Oscar and Black Persian (Better than Blackberries)
9.  Lychee - Brewster grows well at my location and tastes great
10.  Cherimoya - Various varieties


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: First time grafting jitters
« on: October 10, 2019, 08:51:26 PM »
Time will tell if your graft takes. It's late in the season and I have had similar new growth at this stage fail.

Hopefully, you will have some luck on your side and warm temperatures.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help ID this lychee
« on: September 26, 2019, 06:38:04 PM »
I have two lychee trees, a Brewster and Mauritius.

Your leaf structure, color and tree form look like a Mauritius but it's hard to say for sure.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mallika and Mahachanok mangoes
« on: September 26, 2019, 06:31:10 PM »
I am looking forward to some Mallika fruit next year.

My small tree is starting it's 2nd flush now and has grown well this year since I placed it in the ground in early 2018.

Your fruit looks delicious.


Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: 20 gallon Coconut Cream mango FS
« on: September 17, 2019, 02:23:10 PM »
Mimosa Nursery in LA has some Coconut Cream trees for $180 but they are on turpentine root stock.

I was there over the weekend and saw a row of them. Must have arrived recently from Florida.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lychee success in SoCal
« on: September 03, 2019, 07:54:43 PM »
How far is the trunk of your Bruster lychee tree from the wall in your house? (Garage)

I will be planting my Bruster in the ground next spring and want to make sure I place it far enough away. Just wondering on recommended Spacing for these trees.

Beautiful Tree BestDay.


My four mango trees arrived today. Thanks, Phelipe.

Most were larger than expected.  Great service and fast shipment as promised. Even boxed in two separate boxes because of the extra-large size but did not charge extra.

See photos of the trees I received today.


Butter Cream Mango Tree after Repotting

Cac Root-Ball

 Cac Manto Tree

Orange Sherbert after Repotting

Seacrest Mango Tree

Citrus General Discussion / Re: 7 on 1 inverted bud grafts
« on: August 30, 2019, 07:40:21 AM »
Pretty Cool.  I just Did (7) inverted T-bud grafts to four different Rich 16-6 trifoliate rootstocks. Temperatures are warm right now so I am hoping for a high take rate also.

You can likely manage size of your Gold Nugget on semi dwarf root stock. I finally just completed the removal of my tree and so glad I did. There is so much more room now in my backyard now with that tree gone. My tree was crowing out everything is close proximity including one of my mango trees. You can only eat so much citrus during the main citrus season (January to May) and my Navel Orange, Yosemite Gold, Oroblanco and a few other grafts provide more than enough for our family. Still love the Page for juicing and the Kinnow for its superior flavor later in the season.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: SoCal mango flowering update
« on: August 21, 2019, 08:53:26 PM »
Very nice Mangos Simon. In September you should be enjoying killer mangos. Your ST and PPK mango Trees looks excellent.

If you have a chance can you please post some photos of the actual trees from a more wide-angle view like your ST tree photo.

If you can tell us the rootstock of each grafted tree, when it was grafted and how long the rootstock has been in the ground would be helpful to ascertain growth rates hear in California on Non Turpentine rootstock. 

Thanks Man.  Looking Good. Your leading the way Brother.


My Sweet Tart mango tree is finally flushing now. Last year in 2018 it only had one growth flush. Hopefully this year I will get two from this tree. Time will tell.

Sweet Tart Mango Tree (8-13-2019)

What is the RBZT Method?.

Not sure what you're talking about.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Out with the old...
« on: August 11, 2019, 01:58:31 PM »
Good Job. I too have recently removed (5) dud trees that are either nonproductive, inconsistent in production, mediocre quality or too big and labor-intensive to keep Trimming.

My Gold Nugget mandarin, Cot-N-Candy Aprium, two peach trees and one plum were on the chopping block this year and were hacked down last month.

I love the appearance of my Pdero walnut tree but I only have about 20 nuts from a 15-foot tree and last year was the same. That tree will likely be removed next year. 


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