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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Are these Haden or Tommy Atkins?
« on: June 05, 2016, 08:07:44 PM »
I just purchased these with a PLU code of 4959 and they are from Mexico. They appear to be Haden but to be honest I am not sure as the Tommy's are similar in appearance. There average weight is 20-23 ounces. Can someone with more experience tell me for sure.

Was hoping to try to plant the seed and use it for root stock for lemon zest, sweet tart exct. I am currently using the Laverne Manila root stock but wanted to do a experiment and compare it to this fast grower if it is a Haden mango which I hope it is.

Thanks in advance


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Indian Mangos 2016
« on: May 24, 2016, 11:49:17 AM »
The (4) Kesars I have ate so far from my box have been uniformly excellent.  I plan on getting another box on Friday. I could eat 3-4 a day and still want more. They are way better than the Mexican Ataulfo we compared them to. Much richer, juicer, better texture and more complex in the flavor profile. I love my Kesars.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Kesar Mangos from India
« on: May 21, 2016, 05:58:04 PM »
I just got back from Pioneer Cash & Carry in Artesia a picked up a case of Kesar Mangos for $30. They look beautiful. Going to give them a day or two to ripen up then enjoy. This will be my first Kesar experience.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Angel Red Pomegranate
« on: April 11, 2016, 09:20:18 PM »
Most flowers produced by pomegranates drop off as only a few will produce fruit. Hopefully your tree is mature enough to hold fruit this year and the humidity will not be the kiss of death. Knowing what I know now I would largely stay away from Dr.Levin's Turkmenistan Collection of cultivars as my experience they are much lighter producers compared to Angel Red. Even though the Parfianka is my favorite tasting pomegranate so far it has been a light producer so I will see how this does as my four year old ages. I prefer the Angel Red to the Desertny both in flavor and Physical appearance. The angle red pomegranate has much more of deeper green color in the foliage and the leaves are noticeably larger relative to the to the Desertnyi next to it. Hear are a few extra photos. The first Picture is my Parfianka just starting to put on flowers now and the second photo is my 5 year old Desertnyi with some light flower production but more on the way (hopefully it will do better this year). Third is the large Sirenevyi that has so far produced nothing with no sign of flower production yet. The last photo is a closer view of the Angel Red taken yesterday. Angle Red is by far the most attractive and productive of the pomegranates I have and also has the lowest chill requirement.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Angel Red Pomegranate
« on: April 09, 2016, 05:44:21 PM »
My Pomegranate fruit do not rot but I live in a semi arid climate hear in So.Calif that is generally dry with low humidity in the summer. In Florida you are wet with high humidity and that may be one of of the many factors that effect you fruit.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Angel Red Pomegranate
« on: April 09, 2016, 05:03:59 PM »
My five year old Angel Red Pomegranate is the most consistent producer of the varieties I have. The Desertnyi located next to has on average only moderate production and ripens later. Angel Red is the first to ripen. My four year old Sireneyi is large now (9-10 feet tall) but has yet to produce any fruit. I will give it two more years and yank it if there is no production.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Question about Sweet tart tree
« on: December 04, 2015, 03:49:13 PM »
That is a nice looking Tree. I have a similar smaller version of that on Turpentine I just purchased last summer. I was going to graft the Sweet Tart scion onto a manila rootstock using veneer grafting next summer. I personally would hold off on fruit for at least another year and let the side branches gain in strength.


Citrus General Discussion / Re: Picking Cara Cara
« on: November 15, 2015, 09:32:15 PM »
My (6) year old Cara Cara om C-35 (standard) root stock is only about 6-7 feet tall with light production of fruit every year. At least in my case this is a slow grower with modest fruit production at best. In contrast my 10-11 year old Washington Navel on semi dwarf trifoliate root stock is 10+ feet tall and has excellent production most years (it tends to be alternate bearing to a degree). The growth rate and fruit production on my Washington Navel seems much higher than that of the Cara Cara pink navel.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mangos from Leo's yard
« on: November 03, 2015, 08:33:41 PM »
Any Idea Markee why your LZ is Dying. Do you have any Photos. Have you narrowed it down to the root stock and if so why. If you have other mangoes are they effected too.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: dragon fruit leaf curl
« on: November 03, 2015, 08:29:16 PM »
I had the same thing happen to my Hailes Comet Dragon fruit last month with 102 degree temperatures. It was burnt and the effected tissue destroyed. Had to really cut it back. Most of my other dragon fruit were not that effected. I suspect the soil had dried out and it had no moisture to feed the upper foliage. (See Photos)

After 100 Degree heat

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mangos from Leo's yard
« on: November 03, 2015, 08:18:14 PM »
Very nice Simon as those are beautiful mangoes. It will be interesting to see how your double grafted LZ grows in 2016. I lave a LZ I purchased in late July of this year from Florida and it has already put on two growth flushes. Hopefully the warm El Nino 2016 weather pattern will be beneficial to our mangoes hear in the south land. 


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: The Amazing Dragon Fruit House
« on: November 02, 2015, 01:51:28 PM »
Sorry I do not have any contact Info as he does not speak much English. If your in the area you can drop by and take a look. He is just 1 block south of the 22 fwy on Magnolia Street.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / The Amazing Dragon Fruit House
« on: November 01, 2015, 08:49:04 PM »
The other day I was driving my car in Garden Grove when I passed this house on a residential neighborhood on a major street in Orange County. I could not believe it as mature dragon fruit plants were around the entire perimeter of the house including the entire front yard and side yard. I returned today (Sunday) to take some photos and see if I could meet with the owner. Only the back yard, which is cemented in for a patio, did not have dragon fruit. 4 X 4 treated lumber was spaced about six feet going around the entire house and there were 3-4 rows back to back in the front yard. They were climbing on two dead palm tree trunks as well as sharing a living tree as you can see in the photo. The gentleman was very nice but spoke broken English. He indicated he has 22 different cultivars on this property. To me it looked like about 60-80 separate dragon fruit plants. There were hundreds of small potted plants he was also growing. I believe he sells cutting as a small business so I might go back later and ask for his top 3-4 varieties. He did indicate to me his personal favorite was a particular white variety that is very sweet. That is interesting as I always thought the Red dragon fruit has the best flavor. Everybody has a preference and that was his.

Side View of the House     

Growing on a Psalm Tree

The Proud Owner and Gardner

Climbing on Psalm Trees

Street View #1

Street View #2

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Nutrient deficiency in potted citrus
« on: October 30, 2015, 09:42:31 PM »
Lightly apply some Azomite (Rock Dust) to the ground just below the canopy. This will resolve any mineral deficiency in your trees. I applied it several times in 2015 and all of my trees have lush green growth. Very effective indeed.


You might be right insofar the tree might be a little deep. I compacted the dirt as I went to back fill the hole with sandy loom topsoil, pumice and a little peat moss. If I have to I can dig around the root ball and lift it a inch or two.


What is your growing zone or a more specific location. Hope your in the coastal region if your growing Cherimoyas. I thin the SF Valley gets to cold in the winter (at least average winters).


Hear are a few photos of my just planted Hasya Sapodilla. I still have to add a little more topsoil to level where the tree is planted. JF your Sapodilla put on quite a bit of foliage over the last six months. The new growth looks healthy and next year should be great because of the warmer El Nino weather conditions hear in the West. I will try to post updated photos in one year to compare the growth of this tree.   

Just a side bar hear are (2) photos of my El Bumpo (5 gallon) and Fino de Jete (15 gallon) Cherimoyas planted in April 2015. The last picture of the Cherimoyas was just taken today. 2016 should be good for these trees also.


(15 gallon Hasya Sapodilla)

(El Bumpo & Fino de Jete, April 2015)

(El Bumpo & Fino de Jete, Oct 28, 2015)

Thanks to all that replied. Much appreciated. I just planted my Sapodilla and the roots were wrapped around the container but not tight so I'm guessing it was probally moved from the 7 gallon to this 15 gallon about 6-9 months ago. The Pro can #15 had to be cut as I could not remove the tree. The root system was largely installed intact and the temperature has been warm hear in late October (high 70's) so hopefully it will adapt and grow well in 2016. We will see as I am quite curious regarding the growth rate.

Raimeiken might be right insofar the seller might have purchased a 7 gallon from Pine Island and put in into a 15 gallon container earlier this year and it did not have a chance to grow that much. I did notice the trunk diameter was not as thick for that size pot. My other options were to drive to Ong Nursery in San Diego (2 hours each way) and see what they have. I might do this anyways as they have a lot of interesting fruiting tropical plants. I have room for one more tree, either another mango or sapodilla. The large fruit of the Oxkutzcab Sapodilla intrigue me as it has received positive feedback for both the quality of the fruit and attractiveness of the tree. Will have to check this out when I go to Ong's in a few weeks. I probally overpaid but I picked up the tree locally and had it back home in less than 40 minutes (including driving time).

The other options are online. Top Tropical s charge $80 for a 3 gallon Sapodilla plus $65 for shipping to California. Pine Island Nursery is even more expensive. You guys in Florida are lucky because of the wider availability and much cheaper prices. I hope this Haysa grows well and it already has small fruit developing which I will likely remove to promote growth.   


I purchased the Sapodilla from a private party that specializes in tropical plants. They source there trees from a variety of nurseries and growers. Our prices hear in Calif are always much higher than that of Florida.  I recently talked to a lady that bought a 3 gallon Sapodilla tree directly from Pine Island Nursery several years ago and $160 after shipping and the inspection fee required in California.

I chose the Hasya for it fruit season (Nov-June) which is opposite of my stone fruit like peaches, plums, apples and also mango's. I prefer a taller tree that will hopeful grow faster than some of the smaller and semi-dwarf cultivars. This Hasys will be about 25 feet from my Beaumont Macadamia tree which is also very ornamental and I wanted another attractive tree with high quality fruit to complement it. I have not seen such a small bush type Sapodilla like michsu has and this type would not be a good fit with the rest of my tropical tees in the front yard which will be at least 15 feet tall when fully grown. Each person has there own preferences but taller pyramid shaped trees look very nice indeed.


Thanks for the tip Robert. Normally I am careful about delicate fruit trees and lay the container on it's side and try to slide it off the root ball without yanking on the trunk. If that does not work I will cut the container as you said. I would hate to ruin my $300 investment as this is a nice Sapodilla specimen.


Thanks for the info. I just dug the hole today and will be back filling with sandy loom soil in the next day or two.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Recently Purchased 15 Gallon Hasya Sapodilla
« on: October 25, 2015, 09:04:11 AM »
I just purchased this Hasya Sapodilla and will be planting it shortly. It already has small fruit forming and the lower trunk diameter is about 1". I was going to nip off the fruit to encourage growth. The tree is 7' tall and the label indicates this was Pine Island Nursery stock. I bought it hear locally in Orange County for $300 which is the most I have ever paid for a fruit tree. I hope it grows well hear in the coastal zone of So. California. I live about 4-5 miles inland from the beach. Any idea how much growth I can expect yearly based on it's current size?.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: SoCal Mango Questions
« on: October 22, 2015, 09:48:25 PM »
In July of this year I purchased 8 mango trees from TT in Florida. Thus far my experience has been very good except for one tree, a Carrie, that died within 2 weeks of arrival. MY Lemon Zest, Glenn and NDM are putting on there second growth flush now in late October. My sweet Tart and ugly betty have doubled in canopy size over the last 60 days relative to the size I received them in summer. The Malika and CC are starting there first growth flush now but at least I am getting something before winter. All my trees are on Trupentine as far as I know but next year I will plant a Laverne Manilla in the ground and graft some other varieties onto it to compare growth. Each time I plant in the ground I create a 48"-54" squar X 24" deep hole and remove my native clay soil and replace with sandy loom topsoil I purchase and pumice. I have got excellent results doing this on my Beaumont macadamia tree and thus far my mangoes are doing very well in it. I do not believe tropical plants like heavy clay soil like I have hear in Huntington Beach and much of So. Calif.

Listed are a few photos of my 3 month old mangoes and my four year old Macadamia using this soil mix instead of the native clay soil. As you can see my mango trees have grown well in a relatively short time. Looking forward to 2016 growth when they have all year.

Ugly Betty during first flush

Sweet Tart after first flush (Got this in July 2015)

NDM and Sweet Tart in the background

Beaumont Macadamia

Ugly Betty after first flush

I would love a seedless Kinnow mandarin. Probably the best flavored mandarin I ever tasted and that includes the Page which is also very good. The Kinnow does have a tendency to alternate bear though and has about 25 seed per fruit on the average.


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