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Citrus General Discussion / Yellow vein/green leaves?
« on: December 12, 2015, 07:02:45 PM »


My Satsuma has had a few leaves like this for a while, but recently a lot have turned like this.  The central vein turns yellow, while the rest of the leaf is green.  Then the yellow spreads outward and the leaf drops.  I was thinking just Nitrogen deficiency, so I just sprayed with fish emulsion.  Could it be something else? 

Over the Summer, I had a pretty bad spider mite problem.  I thought that might be why the leaves are mostly smaller, cupped and pointed upward.  Could this causing the vein yellowing now? 

Only things I sprayed in the past have been dormant oil, micro nutrient spray and fish emulsion.

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Sats are still solid green.
« on: November 30, 2015, 09:01:43 PM »
Not sure what to make of this.  My satsumas are large and 95 to 100 percent yellow / orange.  But they are mostly still hard.  Like a new tennis ball or a little firmer. 

Should I pick them and let them sit for a couple days?  Or wait?

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Citrus General Discussion / Thinning Fruitlets
« on: November 30, 2015, 03:59:31 PM »
My Valencia orange is covered in fruitlets just dropping the flower petals.  I've read that I need to thin the fruitlets about now to prevent alternate bearing.  But how much to thin?  50%?  75%?  More?

Do you pick off the smaller ones or the larger ones that are a little older?

What do you guys do to prevent alternate bearing?

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I heard this on NPR at work the other day.  It's about 4 minutes long.  Towards the end, a researcher claims good results discouraging Asian Psyllids from his trees using reflective metalized mulch.  He also claims 50% more growth on his trees.

http://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2015/11/27/457424528/how-long-can-floridas-citrus-industry-survive

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Citrus General Discussion / greening resistant citrus from UF
« on: November 29, 2015, 11:49:39 AM »
Genetically modified trees symptom free after 3 years surrounded by infected trees.  They used genes from a mustard plant.

http://news.ufl.edu/articles/2015/11/uf-creates-trees-with-enhanced-resistance-to-greening.php

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: citrus borers - now what?
« on: November 20, 2015, 04:31:20 PM »



Most of what came up was for different kinds of boring insects.  I did see a "lemon tree borer" from New Zealand.  Searching this forum for "citrus borer" only brought up this same thread.

The hole into the branch was very small - maybe the size of an average sewing needle in diameter.  I was thinking maybe ambrosia beetles because of the hole size.  I cut the branch off rather than treat the whole tree, since I only had the one spot affected.  It looked like the hole was very short and didn't go too far.  Maybe something laying eggs?

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Citrus General Discussion / citrus borers - now what?
« on: November 20, 2015, 09:12:09 AM »



I have a small Glen navel orange tree with some kind of boring insect.  There are two holes pretty close together with curly strands of sap coming out.  What should I do?

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Winter Light Recommendation Including Link
« on: November 17, 2015, 07:56:38 AM »
The light size depends on the size of your tree.  I did a little reading about this recently.  This website had a lot of good info about different types of grow lights and selecting the right size light.

http://www.jasons-indoor-guide-to-organic-and-hydroponics-gardening.com/grow-light-selector.html

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Using Grow Lights during Winter
« on: November 14, 2015, 10:19:30 PM »


My lights finally came in.  I haven't got everything set up yet.  I went with three fluorescent fixtures that have twelve t-5 bulbs per fixture.  The fixtures are rated for 60,000 lumens each.  One is set up with only 6500k "blue" lights, another has only 2700k "red" lights, and the fixture between them has half and half "blue" and "red".  I think I might end up turning the fixtures and bringing them closer together, so the light overlaps better.  I plan on enclosing the area with white walls and putting down white plastic on the floors.  I picked up a digital meat thermometer and already have a fan and heater for the area. 

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Stupid Mistake
« on: November 14, 2015, 06:17:23 PM »
So, what temperature is safe to use?

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Picking Cara Cara
« on: November 07, 2015, 03:15:17 PM »
11ft tall - How old is your tree?  Do you know what rootstock it's on?

I just picked up a Cara Cara from Harris, but it's really tiny.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Using Grow Lights during Winter
« on: November 06, 2015, 02:40:26 PM »
I have been reading on the indoor plant lighting (read: weed growing) sites that the "warm red" florescent bulbs are for flowering.  Does that mean they trigger flowering or they just support the plant better when it flowers?

How do I  figure out when plants should be under "blue" lights and when they should be under "red" light?  Is there a way to find out flowering times for different plants?

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I looked into this a few months ago and didn't get very far.  You can basically get Sugarloaf, White Jade, Smooth Cayenne, Florida Special, and Elite Gold from a few nurseries, but that's really it.  I emailed everyone I could get ahold of including commercial research groups, propagation companies in Cuba and France and growers in Brazil.  And basically, in the US, you have to get anything rare from ARS GRIN.  There is a slim chance you could find something odd from one of the Caribbean islands at a farmers market in South Florida, but it probably would be hard to know what specific variety you had.

I did get ahold of a few guys who have requested rare pineapples from GRIN and they recommended sticking with MD-2, because it is so superior to the other varieties.  Still, I'd like to grow some of the odd stuff just for something different.

 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Ylang Ylang?
« on: November 02, 2015, 05:03:15 AM »
Not sure about this one.

There is a so-called "Ylang-Ylang Vine" - ARTABOTRYS HEXAPETALUS.    As opposed to the standard Cananga odorata ("Ylang-ylang").  I saw a few pictures of the flowers opened, but still green while searching online.

Another option may be the Vietnamese Gardenia, but these aren't cacti either.

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Citrus General Discussion / Using Grow Lights during Winter
« on: October 28, 2015, 12:11:54 PM »
Is anybody using grow lights on their container citrus over the winter? 

How do you know what size lights to use?  Or what type?  It seems like there are a dizzying array of sizes, types, and prices.  I can apparently spend $5 on a LED screw-in light bulb all the way up to $1,500 on a big LED lamp that hangs from the ceiling.  There are also Metal Halide (MH) bulbs and High Pressure Sodium (HPS) bulbs.  Is there a good source of info on this for use on citrus plants? 

Instead of putting my plants in the ground this Fall, I am thinking about keeping them potted and indoors at my shop near the windows with grow lights (and heaters) over the Winter.  Would this would help them add some size before the Spring?  My new plants from Harris and Four Winds are really tiny.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help with Avocado problems
« on: October 27, 2015, 12:09:02 AM »
I bought a Simmonds and an Oro Negro from Lara earlier this year.  When I brought them home, the leaves started to look like that.  I think mine were getting too much sun too quickly and got sunburned before they could adjust to the new conditions.  I painted the trunks white and moved them to more shade.  I also potted them up to a larger container with a fast draining mix.  With a little fertilizer, it wasn't too long before the trees started doing better and putting out a bunch of new leaves.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: MYSTERIOUS BLACK SPOTS on Glenn Mango
« on: October 21, 2015, 09:03:05 PM »
Added new pictures.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: How do they do that?!
« on: October 21, 2015, 04:36:18 PM »
I'm all about trying it, as long as I don't kill the trees or cause extreme alternate bearing. 

What are the limits for annual pruning?  I've seen some people say about 1/3 of the canopy.

If you use Gibberellic Acid and each flower makes a fruit, then does this cause an extremely small crop the next year?  Or do you keep spraying with Gibberellic Acid and the trees keep producing well?  And if you use Gibberellic Acid and have many more fruit than usual, wouldn't the fruit be smaller?

I wouldn't mind trees with a smaller footprint, since I am limited on planting space, but it seems like there must be a trade-off or you would see more people doing this.

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Citrus General Discussion / How do they do that?!
« on: October 18, 2015, 01:42:57 PM »
While searching online for different mandarin and orange trees to try, I saw quite a few pictures of citrus trees from China trimmed like vertical cylinders and totally covered in fruit. 



While I find these trees unattractive, trees trimmed like that would definitely let me squeeze more plants into tight places.  How in the world do they do that?  Is it just special pruning practices, a prolific inedible fruit, treating with certain plant hormones or what? 

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Owari bark issue
« on: October 18, 2015, 09:29:33 AM »




I saw a couple of other spots that were damaged - maybe 4 spots total.  Could it be old damage from last year's cold weather?

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Owari bark issue
« on: October 15, 2015, 10:51:12 PM »
I'll try to take a better picture, but I'm just worried about Bacterial Canker more than anything.  Is this something you guys have to fight against commonly?

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Citrus hardiness - Satsumas
« on: October 15, 2015, 10:48:34 PM »
I don't know about Ponkan parentage..  Just going off the Wikipedia page.

Just got an email back from Just Fruits and Exotics on the King Tangerine hardiness.  They said the tree is hardy to about 22F, if properly hardened, but ANY citrus FRUITS will be damaged under 28F.  If that's true, I guess I messed up, thinking it would be better to get early, mid, and late crop varieties for an extended season.  l picked the King and Golden Nugget for a late crop, but maybe the fruit will be damaged by freezing temps?  Last year, we had a few nights in the low 20's in February.  I suppose I could provide some protection on nights under 28F to save the fruit.  Any thoughts?




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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Citrus hardiness - Satsumas
« on: October 15, 2015, 01:29:35 PM »
Sorry for the confusing semantics.  I guess they are not all "Satsumas".  I'm still a little new to the lingo.  :o So, in order of approximate cold-hardiness, I'm guessing it would be something like:

HARDIER
1. Golden Nugget Satsuma (based on some anecdotal reports online)
2. Owari Satsuma
3. Xie Shan Satsuma
4. Ponkan Mandarin (mandarin x pomelo?)
5. King Tangerine?
6. Shiranui Tangor
LESS HARDY

I can't seem to find any good info on King Tangerine cold tolerance, but since it is not a Satsuma, I'm guessing it's on the less hardy side.  Right?

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Citrus General Discussion / Owari bark issue
« on: October 15, 2015, 12:01:56 PM »



Kind of hard to see, but my Owari Satsuma has a small spot at the base of a limb about the size of a dime where the bark has peeled back in all directions.  Should I prune off this limb?  Or treat it with something?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / MYSTERIOUS BLACK SPOTS on Glenn Mango
« on: October 15, 2015, 11:57:18 AM »






Groups of black spots on my Glenn mango.  Mostly on leaf petioles and some on the trunk.  They don't look raised, like bug eggs and they can be scraped off with a fingernail.

Any ideas?

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