Thanks for the replies, gents. One Green World's listing just says "Honey" but I'm sure you're right, that it's California Honey.

A little searching led me to the UC, Riverside website where it says it is a cross between 'King' tangor and 'Willowleaf' mandarin, and that it matures, in Riverside, November to January, which should put it between Owari and Gold Nugget, as Tom suggests. I think I'll give it a try.

gary

http://www.ongnursery.com/

I wonder if their trains run on time, too.

I read that, although the psylid has been found here, the bacteria has not yet been found in California. Somewhere (maybe here?) I read that the bacteria was in Florida as early as '98 but the psylids hadn't yet arrived to spread it.

Our winters have gotten progressively warmer. We haven't had a good hard freeze in 15 years.

Well, if you change your mind send me a PM.

I checked. A 9-1/4" x 6-1/4" x 2" box, maximum weight 4 pounds would cost $26.50. Delivery time estimated from 6 to 10 business days. I can afford that. That's using a USPS standard-sized box, which it seems their pricing scheme revolves around. It seems like prices go way up if you don't use one of their boxes but it could be a limitation of their online calculator.

I would think cuttings would survive time sitting in customs better than rooted plants, though if sent in January when dormant it might be about the same.

I also checked, there are no restrictions on sending out of the US.

gary

Nice!

My mother has a 64 year old Hachiya tree. When it was 10 years old my father dug it up and moved it to its present location. It's been mostly ignored in terms of pruning, other than cutting out dead limbs. It's got a huge clump of mistletoe at about the 15 foot level. Every couple of years it looks like its last but then it comes back the next year. 500 fruits would be an underestimate.

I have no idea why he got or kept the tree, he didn't like persimmons, nobody in the family does. Each year my mother gives away a few grocery bags full but the rest goes in the garbage. Maybe I'll try  to make a few Hoshigaki this year.

Yep, the drought is a government conspiracy.

Violet de Bordeaux are slow growers.

Anyone doing anything interesting with their Mulberry tree(s) - espalier, stepover?

According to Dave Wilson Nursery it is non-staining. However, the L.E. Cooke Company says it should not be planted over driveways or walkways "due to fruit drop".

http://www.davewilson.com:8080/product-information/product/mulberries

http://www.lecooke.com/Images/Shades/Mulberry/Pakistan-Fruiting-Mulberry(RGB).pdf