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It's great to see a fellow Wisconsinite trying to grow some tropical fruit up here. I don't have a greenhouse, but I've been plugging away the last 4 years or so trying to grow stuff indoors. 

I would agree winter light is going to be one of your biggest issues.  I think with a greenhouse you'll be able to grow lots of great citrus and keep almost anything happy vegetation wise, but you might have a hard time coaxing fruit out of things like the mangoes.  Not that you shouldn't try, you totally should, but I would highly recommend growing sub-tropical fruit (like guavas, loquats, natal plums ect.) and Mediterranean weather plants (like figs and pomegranates) as well. My atemoya and mango trees have really struggled, while some of the things listed above have done very well for me and others in the area.

All that said if there's anything you really want to grow you should, I haven't let it stop me from trying to grow everything under the sun (: and you can count me as one of the people cheering you and your plants to success in our less then tropical state.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Maypop (Passiflora incarnata) Thread
« on: September 11, 2016, 06:20:20 PM »
The Maypops I planted back in May have been blooming the past few weeks, but we're only 2 to 6 weeks away from our first frost depending on the weather so I'm doubtful they'll fruit this year.  Should be interesting whether or not they come back next year; they are well mulched and south facing so I think they have an outside chance.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: pawpaw seeds sprouting into the fridge!
« on: August 16, 2016, 05:20:37 PM »
Just took a look at the weather for your area. Im sticking with putting them outside, but on nights where it's close to freezing you might want to move them inside just for the night. Hope that's helpful, best of luck.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: pawpaw seeds sprouting into the fridge!
« on: August 16, 2016, 04:55:56 PM »
As long as it's going to stay above 0 Celsius I would leave them outside.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Wanted: Shasta Gold
« on: August 16, 2016, 10:04:37 AM »
Page would be in my top 5 early citrus, but not overall...as for dekopon if you like citrus that trends towards the sweet side then it would probably be worth growing.  As for me personally, while I appreciate it's rich flavor it's a little too sweet for me as I prefer a more well balanced citrus.  I know that it's many people's favorite citrus though and I can understand why even if it's not mine. You should take your own preferences into account when deciding on whether to grow it or not.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: pawpaw seeds sprouting into the fridge!
« on: August 15, 2016, 07:36:50 PM »
So first I would get this post moved to the temperate fruit discussion as you'll possibly get more replies there.  Second it's completely normal that your seeds sprouted in the fridge, in fact this is how a lot of people get temperate fruit seeds to sprout...including pawpaws. A lot of temperate tree seeds start sprouting after their dormancy has been broken by the necessary chill hours usually timed to match the thawing of the ground in spring...so a refrigerator just above freezing induces sprouting.

As for your potted pawpaws they can remain in your greenhouse or they can go outside as long as its going to stay above freezing even at night.  If they were in the ground they could take -20 degrees F (-29 C), but in pots I probably wouldn't risk below 28 degrees F (-2 C).  Given the info you've given though I think everything is safe to move outside and honestly it might have been too warm in your green house for your current trees to get enough chill hours. I did see that the trees are two years old though so if you've had success in past years then they'll probably be fine. Best of Luck!

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Wanted: Shasta Gold
« on: August 15, 2016, 06:57:44 PM »
Not sure of a source in South Florida for TDE 2 known commercially as Shasta Gold, but I can confirm the rave reviews. The California Shasta's I've had are easily in my top 5 favorite citrus during citrus season.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / First and second year pawpaws
« on: August 07, 2016, 07:58:27 PM »
The pawpaw seedlings i put in last year and this year, mostly in partial shade on a south facing hill in zone 4b. They are surrounded by black walnuts and are planted in a heavy clay soil.  They seem to be doing decently well so next year i plan on expanding my plantings to full sun and including some named cultivars in that planting.

One year old seedling



Two year old seedling


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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Moving to zone 8b
« on: June 01, 2016, 03:00:28 PM »
Other options include pawpaws, maypops, plums, pluots, cherries, peaches, apricots, pomegranate, pecans, asian pears, kiwis and figs..strawberry guava to my knowledge should still be fine in that zone

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Just planted some maypop seedlings in 4b, should be interesting if the summer is long enough for them to fruit and if the winter does or doesnt kill them.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Pawpaw seedlings
« on: April 11, 2016, 10:57:32 AM »
My apologies, my language was a bit strong. It's a little rough being a newbie on this forum, I realize I haven't earned my stripes, but I should probably guard against divisive language. Thanks Triloba.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Pawpaw seedlings
« on: April 11, 2016, 10:39:52 AM »
I want to be clear I was not encouraging more watering, but was concerned that in the current climate the air might be too hot and arid for a pawpaw.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Pawpaw seedlings
« on: April 11, 2016, 09:45:04 AM »
I'm with some others here in that I'm not sure you get enough chill hours (at least 300 hours below 7 degrees Celsius), but you might also be on to something with it being too dry.  Pawpaws are an understory tree often growing near moving bodies of water such as streams and rivers in the Midwest and South east of the Mississippi in the US. During their growing season it is quite humid in these environments, you might want to start seeds at the start of your wet season in the future if possible.  As for your current seedlings if you have a shady environment that incudes mature trees or other tall plants that can provide shade and help retain moisture rich environment I would recommend placing your seedlings there.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Where to find fruit in the Philippines
« on: April 10, 2016, 04:45:30 PM »
Hi I will also be traveling to Cebu and Bohol, any places I should check out besides the ones mentioned above?  So far Ramos market and Carbon market in Cebu look promising for fruit buying. 

When I get there in early to mid June are there any fruits I should be on the look out for?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Seek Botanical name
« on: February 18, 2016, 04:57:34 PM »
Reminds me of a French variety called Galeux D' Eysines, might be another similar European heritage variety, but it is c. maxima not c.pepo so that might not be an option.


         

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Citrus General Discussion / TDE 2 & TDE 4 - Best citrus this season?
« on: February 13, 2016, 01:04:19 PM »
Of the many different varieties of citrus I've had the chance to taste this season so far TDE 2 & 4 also known as Shasta Gold and Yosemite Gold are easily the best I've had.  Both the early picked fruit that had a more tangerine characteristic and the fully mature fruit have been packed with flavor that has contrasted starkly with the rest of the citrus I've had this season (which to be fair has still been fairly good).

I enjoyed them last season as well, but the Nagami kumquats, Satsumas and Moros amongst others where just as good last year. Now that the season is starting to wind down what were some of your favorites?

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Since several temperate fruits are listed in the poll let me add my temperate voice.  First off the New World does have their own plums and cherries even if they aren't quite as delicious as the Asian varieties and their hybrids.  Second while I would really miss citrus, peaches, mangos, bananas, and the occasional jackfruit like most based in the New World I would miss a little more the tomatoes, peppers, chocolate, in addition to the Annonas and the New World Passifloras

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Hi michsu,

Thanks for responding, you might get those bananas yet, I'm guessing that's on the long end of things, but that's what others have posted on this forum.  I've seen estimates as low as 60 days on other websites.  That's part of the reason I started this thread to try and nail down a rough conscious on flower to fruit times in one place.   

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Hi I was hoping we could start a running thread on the average amount of days certain species and varieties of tropical plants take to go from flower to mature fruit.

Ex. Common Banana (6 months or 180 days)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself
« on: October 29, 2015, 01:14:25 AM »
Hello my name is Justin and I live in the Madison area of Wisconsin.  I've been coxing tropical and sub-tropical plants to grow here in zone 5 for the past two years.  I'm especially addicted to starting plants/trees from seed and as I work in the produce department of a local grocery store I have plenty of access to the more common stuff.  My addiction has really grown past the readily available stuff and I've been enjoying this forum for a while with out joining, but I have some serious questions of my own and I'm ready to bridge the gap.  My early jump into tropical fruit growing include a Kent seedling, an atemoya seedling, and some seed grown date palms (yes I realize I'll never see fruit from these guys).  Happy to join the community.

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