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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Abiu and starapple: Keeping at 6 feet?
« on: October 12, 2012, 05:42:09 PM »
I guess your success depends on how much money you can spend on high ceiling greenhouse. In Chicago I saw soursop tree (about 14 feet tall)  laden with fruits. In case you don't know Chicago winters can get as cold as in Denmark.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What is it?
« on: October 11, 2012, 10:25:26 PM »

 Nipah fruits

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nypa_fruticans


http://nizaworld.wordpress.com/2011/02/11/buah-nipah-pernah-cuba/


I'm wondering if one can tap the sap for a juice similar to sugarcane? It is hinted in the Wikipedia and Malay article. And whoever wrote that article must not have finished 5 grades in Malay school. Google having hard time understanding ... gaps after every three words he wrote.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What is it?
« on: October 11, 2012, 10:15:49 PM »
I was ribbing you.

Interestingly it turns out Sri Lanka is part of its native habitat, but probably only on coastal areas.

So you live in Chicago and have an orchard in Sri Lanka, must be a real long drive on the Eisenhower expressway to get there.
I grew up in the Chicago area.

Have you tried the fruits of Artocarpus nobilis?  If so what are they like?

I tried Garcinia quaesita (goraka) there.  The fruits looked fantastic but they were horribly sour, I guess I should not have expected much as they are used as a natural preservative agent.


Eisenhower sucks, I take invisible skyway, via Abu Dhabi. Only 20 hours drive :) :)

I'm having hard time finding a single article or good photo of Artocarpus nobilis. Can you send me good link? Only photo I found is this: http://biodiversityofsrilanka.blogspot.com/2012/06/wal-delbedi-delhingala-del-artocarpus.html Fruits look immature in this photo. Is it like breadfruit?

Article says that it is common in the village gardens.  I notice breadfruit tree in many village gardens, but over there fruit is very small and round without dark spots or sap overflowing like you see on the breadfruits in the Caribbean markets. Is it it?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What is it?
« on: October 11, 2012, 03:47:12 PM »
What is it? Latin name? Taste? Looks like cross between durian and pineapple. One guy in comments calls it Nibung fruit. But I'm not finding any info on this name.

Aren't YOU supposed to tell US how it tastes?
Though I guess that video is something you found on the web rather than took... since you seem to be in Sri Lanka and the video is Malaysia.

Looks pretty cool although I'm not sure how one eats it as it looks real tough (each segment contains 2385% of your yearly dose of fiber)

And it looks like the Nypa fruticans ID hits it on the head....

Well, I live in Chicago area most of the time. My orchard is in Sri Lanka. I travel there frequently, including other countries in SE Asia (eventually I want to move to Asia full time). I never seen this fruit in Sri Lanka, Western Malaysia or Borneo.
Also your country of living doesn't mean that you will know all the flora. Many people In Sri Lanka people coming from dry zone to wet zone surprised to encounter durian for the first time in their lives. Similarly Western Malaysians have no idea of marang fruit, although  common in Borneo. Eastern Malaysians do not know D24 durian, although it has been golden standard of Malaysian durians for decade.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / What is it?
« on: October 11, 2012, 01:55:12 PM »
What is it? Latin name? Taste? Looks like cross between durian and pineapple. One guy in comments calls it Nibung fruit. But I'm not finding any info on this name.
Malaysian Exotic Food Heritage 2010

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Midgen Berry
« on: October 11, 2012, 11:38:54 AM »
Can Midgen Berry (Austromyrtus dulcis) produce in zone 13 tropics, or is it strictly subtropical? Thanks

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Good price? Jaboticaba. 4' 500$.
« on: October 05, 2012, 09:21:36 PM »
Is this an ok price?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/JABOTICABA-Brazilian-Grape-Fruit-Tree-Myrciaria-cauliflora-HUGE-4-ft-LIVE-Plant-/360493151162?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53ef10f3ba


Holy cow, it is like throwing money into fire! Add $200 or so, and you could fly from Copenhagen to Brazil for a weekend.  I'm sure over there you could pick bunch of this size plants for peanuts. Taste new fruits, experience new place. Money better spend


The problem is that you are not allowed to take plants etc...out of Brazil ..


The other problem is you haven't priced airline tickets lately! Denmark to Brazil for $700? What airline is that on? I don't think you can get a one way ticket for that price.


When you fly to/from big international transit cities, you'll be surprised by the discounts.  I flew countless times from US to Europe ( or vice versa) for around $700 return. I figured Europe to Brazil must be similar. My bad, it was over $1000.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Good price? Jaboticaba. 4' 500$.
« on: October 04, 2012, 09:04:45 PM »


they stay smaller than almost all other jaboticaba species, and they fruit very early from seed, 3-5yrs, and they fruit throughout the year in good climates..so you will have more fruits throughout the year, and you 'll have a tree that stays smaller and fruits sooner!!!


Are you talking about so called "hybrid jaboticaba"?  And what's exactly good climate? More equatorial tropics with significant rainfall?

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Good price? Jaboticaba. 4' 500$.
« on: October 04, 2012, 08:32:33 PM »
Is this an ok price?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/JABOTICABA-Brazilian-Grape-Fruit-Tree-Myrciaria-cauliflora-HUGE-4-ft-LIVE-Plant-/360493151162?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53ef10f3ba


Holy cow, it is like throwing money into fire! Add $200 or so, and you could fly from Copenhagen to Brazil for a weekend.  I'm sure over there you could pick bunch of this size plants for peanuts. Taste new fruits, experience new place. Money better spend

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1. Mamey Sapote
2. Black Sapote
3. White fleshed flat peach
4. Mango
5. Lychee


There must be something magical in those Austrailian black sapotes,  the ones I tried were ok, and I only prefer them in a milkshake with some milk and sugar added.  but I have noticed in Aussie forums that folks down there just go bonkers for them. and now i see you listed it above Mango here.   this may be considered blasphemy by some folks  ;D   

So my guess is that you guys have some tastier sweeter Black Sapote cultivars.


First time I ever heard about black sapote, was by watching Travel Channel. And the most  unlikely source was Andrew Zimmern, known for eating exotic meats, not exotic fruits. He absolutely went nuts for Australian Black Sapotes. Taste wise on the scale 0-10, he gave 14 rating!

I found that segment on youtube. Visit to Cairns starts at 8:00. Anyone can recognize the cultivar?



Bizarre Foods Eastern Australia With Andrew Zimmern Part 2-3

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Looking for Durian seeds
« on: September 30, 2012, 09:54:15 PM »
There have been a number of compilations done with govt funding.Pooled observations across the district provided most of the information.The largest and most formal pubication was done at the Zappala farm at the foot of Mt Bellenden Ker (1592m) with assistance from Lim and staff of the south johnstone research station like Dicsabilis.The main report has several 100 pages and is called RIRC Durian Clone Assessment or something similar.I have a hard copy somewhere that is thick enough to choke a rhino but no longer have an electronic copy.Updated observations from Tully,Mission Beach and Ingham added to the major publication.The report has sections including growth rates,cold tolerance,fruit quality,genetic profiles, first flowering and fruiting,weather details etc. and discusses diseases and cyclone responses.I believe the observation period was around 1986 to about 2000.

Thanks Mike for the scientific approach. Now I have a good starting point.
Sorry for not mentioned your name in my post.

If you can somehow import grafted tree, they stay smaller. Maybe your best bet for greenhouse. I heard Musang King needs higher elevations (cooler climate). It also happens to be the best tasting durian:)  Another area of concern is summer heat. It gets like +40 C in Crete? However, I have seen tropical trees fruiting in Chicago. I think greenhouse was about 25 feet tall.
DurianLover which varieties do you have?
My plan is to grow from seed until next summer and than make the grafts in the greenhouse. Grafted trees can be kept smaller and they fruit earlier. Importing trees is a big story because of EU regulations.
I am a little confused which variety is best for colder climates. Another member mentioned the D175 (red prawn) as more cold tolerant.
The summer temperatures are between 30 and 40oC and in the greenhouse much higher, at least 5 - 10C. The weather will be a problem only during the winter months.

I just recently started my project, so durians are not fruiting yet. I will be travelling this January through Singapore and Malaysia, so I could send you from there. Same goes for cyclonenat ( don't you have customs as strict as in Australia?)

But I think you two can get the same results if ordered from Ebay. Who send you rotted seed? If it is supereuroasia, I know seller personally. Very high integrity seller, maybe just a little bit off with some descriptions:) Just ask to replace it, she will send you new ones.
Hello DurianLover. I got durian seeds of the cheap genus (monthong, etc.) from an internet shop not from ebay. The replacement was same quality. I haven't had problem with the seller. I think the way of packing was the problem for molding. From supereuroasia I ordered jackfruit seeds. He shells seeds of excellent quality with very good communication. Never had a problem with that guy. What do you think about the ebay prices, isn't high?

Maybe other members have access to  D175 (red prawn) seeds and can send me now because of very good weather?


Yes, seller is expensive (it's a girl actually) . Hey, but she lives in Singapore. The place is very expensive, you got to eat too.. :) :)

December-January is secondary durian season in Malaysia, and D175 is hardly ever available at this time. You may have to wait all the way to next July, when main season stars in Malaysia. 

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Looking for Durian seeds
« on: September 29, 2012, 11:35:36 PM »
DL musang king is D197 and is a champ like D175.


D178 on the left freaks out and loses leaves at 11c evenings but the D175 on the left grows vigorously as it does in places with 5c temps.


Luang also seems to enjoy the repeated 11c overnight temps and continues to flourish.I have heard from other folk that at 5c for any length of time it loses leaves and arrest new growth.


Thanks for the pics. Tolerance to +5 C defies everything I knew about durian growing, especially for Penang origin variety. If I ever get another piece of the land in the up hill country, will try Red Prawn over there.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: China Town Durian
« on: September 29, 2012, 11:20:41 PM »
Last time I checked all US frozen durians come from Thailand only, and all of them MUST be irradiated (not the case in Canada). So any US bought frozen durian seeds will not be viable. 99 Ranch Market is the only place in US where I saw fresh durians. Also twice as expensive compared to frozen ones. Those seeds might be good to go.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: FGM Yard photos (Sept 2012)
« on: September 29, 2012, 11:06:18 PM »
I have seeds available. I will contact you off-forum shortly.
 

Hi Noel,

Will you have some extra left for me? Shipping to US...Thank you

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Durian seed
« on: September 28, 2012, 05:13:55 PM »


Smaller white fleshed durian



Larger, yellow fleshed durian



How to remove durian smell from your hands demo


Durnias smell on the hands is a myth. Never smelled on my hands, or my fellow eaters. Burp is the only thing you should worry about:)

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Looking for Durian seeds
« on: September 28, 2012, 12:32:52 PM »
If you can somehow import grafted tree, they stay smaller. Maybe your best bet for greenhouse. I heard Musang King needs higher elevations (cooler climate). It also happens to be the best tasting durian:)  Another area of concern is summer heat. It gets like +40 C in Crete? However, I have seen tropical trees fruiting in Chicago. I think greenhouse was about 25 feet tall.
DurianLover which varieties do you have?
My plan is to grow from seed until next summer and than make the grafts in the greenhouse. Grafted trees can be kept smaller and they fruit earlier. Importing trees is a big story because of EU regulations.
I am a little confused which variety is best for colder climates. Another member mentioned the D175 (red prawn) as more cold tolerant.
The summer temperatures are between 30 and 40oC and in the greenhouse much higher, at least 5 - 10C. The weather will be a problem only during the winter months.

I just recently started my project, so durians are not fruiting yet. I will be travelling this January through Singapore and Malaysia, so I could send you from there. Same goes for cyclonenat ( don't you have customs as strict as in Australia?)

But I think you two can get the same results if ordered from Ebay. Who send you rotted seed? If it is supereuroasia, I know seller personally. Very high integrity seller, maybe just a little bit off with some descriptions:) Just ask to replace it, she will send you new ones.



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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Looking for Durian seeds
« on: September 27, 2012, 06:24:42 PM »
If you can somehow import grafted tree, they stay smaller. Maybe your best bet for greenhouse. I heard Musang King needs higher elevations (cooler climate). It also happens to be the best tasting durian:)  Another area of concern is summer heat. It gets like +40 C in Crete? However, I have seen tropical trees fruiting in Chicago. I think greenhouse was about 25 feet tall.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
« on: September 27, 2012, 06:08:03 PM »

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I guess you are referring to Canarium odontophyllum? The seed is edible also, but not as large as with Pili Nut, C. ovatum. All the canrium fruits have oily exterior which can be eaten, but main prize is usually the nut.
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Yes, the same fruit, but I really don't think people buying it for nut. Utilization of entire fruit is very time consuming. You have to peel it, than soak it in hot water (otherwise it's almoast as hard as tire rubber). And it is  hard nut to crack due to unusual shape. Than you have to start "fishing" with toothpick. Really how much nut can you pick up on the tip of the toothpick?:)  Nut is very soft like boiled peanut, but with better flavour.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Looking for Durian seeds
« on: September 27, 2012, 03:16:57 AM »
Don't want to discourage your spirits, but there is no way durian is going to fruit in Crete. Durian is ultra-tropical and trees get very big. I hear rich folks in California growing durians in giant greenhouses. In any case, if you are still interested I can get you seeds in January.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
« on: September 27, 2012, 03:00:09 AM »
Another fatty fruit is Dabai (tropical olive).  Taste just like avocado. Fruit is very appealing...However, seed to flesh ratio is disappointing (seed is much bigger than in regular olive), and skin is not eatable. I was told 3-5 generation chinese and indian "sarawakians" never adopted this fruit in their diets. However, native Malays buying them like crazy.

Btw, anyone growing it?


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
« on: September 26, 2012, 04:40:38 PM »
How about cempedak? What's the fat content? It feels juicy and creamy at the same time. Someone else mentioned on this forum that mocambo (Theobroma bicolor) is somewhat creamy like cempedak.

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My translation of "very dense" would be: waxy. When you bite into wild small durian, it's like taking a bite into warm candle wax. You almost need to take a sip of water after each bite.

I will be travelling around Borneo this January anyway, so if any board member wants wild durian seeds, I might get some...

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Hey Mike,

I have some Sibabat seedlings. Do they come true to parent most of the time?

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Anyone Sell Dragonfruit?
« on: September 22, 2012, 11:49:47 PM »
Find H-Mart Korean superstore near you, they must have it. (Nearest to IN is Chicago area stores.) But my advice, don't bother..White flesh dragon fruit in Asian stores taste like water. Only red fleshed ones bought fresh has slight sweetness to it...

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Hey Red Durian,

Love you pics. Always nice to see rare Borneo fruits. Does Klambuku comes off the seed as easy as Pulasan, or kind of sticky like Rambutan? I tasted some pulasans in KL and Singapore, I believe they were Sibabat type (dark red).  Never seen Pulasans for sale in Borneo. Pulasans always much bigger than rambutans, wonder why are your pulasans the same size as rambutan next to it? You don't get bigger ones?
Lastly, could I order some seeds from you? Become intrigued by Klambuku and Black and/or Green Pulasans..

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