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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: J33 jakfruit ... why not available ?
« on: February 12, 2017, 12:01:33 PM »
Quote from: skhan on February 11, 2017, 03:03:31 PM
Quote from: DurianLover on February 11, 2017, 11:21:45 AM
I had it Malaysia few weeks back. It's quite firm, crunchy, no particular flavor. Simply intense honey sweet.  It's an awesome commercial variety. Huge fruit and very little waste material. I think those with fruity or citrusy flavors are better options for home growers. I'll be passing through Malaysia again probably in 10 days or so. If you any of you jackfruit fanatics want seeds, let me know  8).

I haven't had that many type of jackfruit mainly because the taste all one not to me. What are some of the types that had fruity flavors? Is there any acid/sour component to any of them?

Many jackfruits are somewhat fruity. You should ask Rob what fruity flavor varieties available in FL? As far acidty after about couple dozen fruits I only once encountered acidity in jackfruit from my own Amber seedling.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Australian Jackfruit Seedlings Update 2016
« on: February 12, 2017, 11:55:40 AM »
Quote from: Lory on February 12, 2017, 06:34:45 AM
I don't consider myself a master fruit grower but I have been succesfully cultivating many fruits plantsduring  my life and it never happened what is going on with chempedak.
I had 8 healthy seedlings, they were growing like rockets for the first 8-10 then they stopped putting new leaves.
I divided them in 4 gropus, some were repotted, some left untouched, some planted in the garden but no way, everything seems useless.
I was extremely careful with watering, i used the best soil, i applied light and well balanced fertilizer, i kept them partially shaded and protected from the scorching sun but nothing.
When i removed the first 2 that died i noticed that their root system was very poor and underdevelopped.
That would explain the reason of that strange leaf chlorosis they all eventually exhibited.
It's like they were growing well until they used the "energy" stored in their big seeds then once it was used up the small roots couldn't just keep up with thep lant growth and well being.
Until now the reason is unknown to me  :(

There is nothing wrong with your gardening skills. I killed maybe 100, I remember Luc mentioned that about 200 died on him. They all suffer from "sudden death syndrome". Grow fine for a while than die for no good reason.  Only one "Australian" variety had good survival rate, but trees grow pretty slow. Something different about genetics in that variety.  Chempedak grafted on jackfruit grows very well. I think that's by far the best way to cultivate them.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: J33 jakfruit ... why not available ?
« on: February 11, 2017, 11:21:45 AM »
I had it Malaysia few weeks back. It's quite firm, crunchy, no particular flavor. Simply intense honey sweet.  It's an awesome commercial variety. Huge fruit and very little waste material. I think those with fruity or citrusy flavors are better options for home growers. I'll be passing through Malaysia again probably in 10 days or so. If you any of you jackfruit fanatics want seeds, let me know  8).

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Looking for Musa Ingens seeds
« on: February 10, 2017, 09:20:10 AM »
Giampaolo, I don't meant to sound pessimistic but let's look at the facts. It does not matter where you are in Italy, its still the same story. It would be too cold in winter and too hot in the summer. According to experts at banana.org and people who tried to grow it, this species is very fussy about staying in specific temperature range.  Something that is found only in tropical highlands. Cool night temps in 10-15C range (50-60F ) and mild daytime temps 20-28C  (70-80F ). And like this every day of the year. No part of Italy, Europe or continental USA has a climate that comes even close to this. 
Again, I don't meant to discourage you. It's your money, your time, your hobby. Do anything you want with it. Maybe banana gods will smile on you ;)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Guanabana "healing" powers...
« on: February 10, 2017, 02:44:08 AM »
Soursop leaves "treatment" is farly new discovery with no proven long term track record. In lab results it kills cancerous as well as healthy cells. If you dig deeper you'll see that there other alternative treatment methods with pretty good results.
But foundation starts with detox. If one is " jammed", no plant in the world will help you. Only prolong the problem.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Shipping mangosteen grafted plants
« on: February 09, 2017, 11:18:08 PM »
Quote from: Doglips on February 09, 2017, 12:24:34 PM
I don't know how good the container control is, but I would error on the low side.  You never know how long the container will be sitting on the tarmac in the blazing sun.  Five days of cooler temps aint going to hurt them, but baking at 40c will.

It's temperature controlled container. Temperature will always be steady according to setting. Outside factors have no influence. 

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Looking for Musa Ingens seeds
« on: February 09, 2017, 11:12:28 PM »
Quote from: Tropical Fruit Bonsai on February 09, 2017, 01:22:10 PM
...so in my country it could perform!!!!

No, you are in subtropics/temperate, depends on what part of Italy. But' me replaying here is really pointless. You do what you want to do. Common sense does not apply in this forum. Everyone in a marginal climate thinks that they will be able to break law of gravity so to speak.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Looking for Musa Ingens seeds
« on: February 09, 2017, 08:53:45 AM »
This will probably render the soil useless and infertile 30 feet radius around the tree :) 

On a serious note here is from bananas.org:  "This plant requires a fairly drastic fluctuation of day to night temps of 30 degrees or more in order to thrive. It prefers cooler evenings. Will not grow in a tropical climate, needs cool nights 60 degrees Fahrenheit - no higher then 80 degrees Fahrenheit to survive."

Looks like it's not doable in tropics or subtropics. It needs tropical highland climate similar to the place of origin.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Shipping mangosteen grafted plants
« on: February 07, 2017, 10:18:19 PM »
Quote from: EvilFruit on February 07, 2017, 02:42:27 PM
Grow hundreds of mangosteen seedlings in New Caledonia, then import 300-600 scions of mangosteen from Philippine.

Shipping 200 plants wont be cheap.

Mangosteens themselves are very cheap by western standards. Probably paying no more than $2 for a plant, $400 total.  It does make sense to go this route depending on shipping charges.

Gosh, I don't want to be responsible for entire shipment but 15 C sounds borderline low. I would have to guess they would be happier around 23 C hanging in container for 5 days.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Amazing Angelica Keiske and new chalcones extraction, possible new antifungal!!
« on: February 07, 2017, 02:11:48 AM »
That's an awesome advice about flower spike. Thank you!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Amazing Angelica Keiske and new chalcones extraction, possible new antifungal!!
« on: February 06, 2017, 09:09:41 AM »
Quote from: DimplesLee on February 05, 2017, 10:59:43 PM
Has anyone noticed their pee turning very yellowish when taking ashitaba tea?  :'(
I think I'm just peeing out all that chalcones! Using fresh leaves (2 leaves steeped in freshly boiled water for about 8 minutes) I also steep it with some stevia leaves (half handful) just to make it more palatable.

Did you grow it in PH lowlands? Still not finding definitive answer whether this can grow in real tropics? Being from Japan and the fact that seeds need cold stratification makes me a bit doubtful about its success as perennial.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Wanted: Nephelium mutabile (Pulasan) California Hardy
« on: February 03, 2017, 04:29:16 AM »
Quote from: OwlSlum on January 29, 2017, 11:13:13 AM


My temps don't go much below 50°F in the winter, so I'm looking to push it a bit.

There is no such thing in California. Even most tropical pockets in the state experience low 40s, upper 30s every few years.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Someone already has proved Willughbeia elmerii ?
« on: January 28, 2017, 01:08:11 AM »
Quote from: buddyguygreen on January 27, 2017, 10:48:10 PM
From what ive heard in 3-5 years

Supposed to be giant vine when fruits. In one year 2 foot tall with five leaves. I might be 100 when it fruits.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Australian Jackfruit Seedlings Update 2016
« on: January 27, 2017, 08:49:52 AM »
Thanks for clarifying. Original fruit accidentally crossed with chempedak sounds very reasonable.
Tree does have any chempajack characteristics. Chempajack usually throw off small percent of lobbed leaves. This one is like any regular jack., tall and vigorous. Obviously not "hairy". About 18 feet in 3 years without watering and hardly any fertilizers. Chempadak will never match it's vigor. I only received twisted chempa by the way. That's the only variety that survives and does reasonably well.  Numerous others collected from my own travels perished.

I don't have seeds, I left the country for few weeks. Will keep your requests in mind.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Australian Jackfruit Seedlings Update 2016
« on: January 25, 2017, 06:18:05 PM »
They only sources of cross pollination nearby are another two ambers with male flowers nearby. There are 3 tall giant jackfruits trees about 200 meters away, but I doubt about their influence as I had another fruit yesterday and once again its absolutely nothing like jackfruit. It opens and eats just like marang, and once opened you can't hold any bigger piece in hand. Fruit falls apart due to gravity. I'd say fruit is 80% chempedak and 20% jack fruit.
If Amber is 100% jackfruit progeny, I admit I know nothing about jackfruits

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Australian Jackfruit Seedlings Update 2016
« on: January 22, 2017, 10:23:54 AM »
Quote from: cbss_daviefl on January 22, 2017, 07:58:04 AM
Did you plant multiple Amber seedlings? I did an experiment planting 5 seedlings from the same fruit and the resulting trees, planted 6 feet apart in a row, are visually different.  Only one has produced fruit, two years ago, another significant difference. The parent fruit had yellow flesh and seedling #1 has orange flesh.


I did mention that I have two more seedlings. One is similar in grow habit of the one that just fruited, but grows at 2X slower pace. Another one is short but super bushy, sort of like trained mango tree.

I did find Sleepdoc's post with Berry seedling fruit and his fruit looks nothing like my. http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=20626.msg253911#msg253911

Seems like he needs to use knife a lot and central core is  thick and wide. My fruit had  thin and soft skin. I did even need a knife to open the fruit. Central core comes out with a hand pull like on marang or chempedak. Never seen that in jackfruit. Than "cut up" entire fruit with just two hands pull. That's how I ended up with a chunk in photo. It's almost as easy to eat as chempedak. It even had sort of chempedak/durian smell. Not a typical jackfruit smell.
I'm planting 25 seeds of this fruit. We'll see what happens in  next in 3-4 years :)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Australian Jackfruit Seedlings Update 2016
« on: January 22, 2017, 12:09:01 AM »
Straight from the source,  actual grafted Amber allegedly. Even if there was mix up with Berry, I'm not complaining. Can't look at teeth of the exellent gifted horse  :D
I don't think anybody even had Amber seedling seeds 3 years ago outside Australia. And even those sources I would not be aware of.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Australian Jackfruit Seedlings Update 2016
« on: January 21, 2017, 11:11:01 PM »
That's quite odd about it being Berry progeny suspect.  Unless there was a seed mix up by the sender, I never officially received Berry. I have two more seedlings coming along from the same batch at slower pace, leaves are similar on all of them. Not narrow.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Australian Jackfruit Seedlings Update 2016
« on: January 21, 2017, 07:52:49 AM »
Had my first Amber today. The fruit definitely did not disappoint. It had sort of orangey lemonade flavor with fairly strong acidity. Not undesirable acidity, but the one very much appreciated in mangoes for flavor balance.  Texture and flavor wise, fruit was much like high quality chempedak without sickening sweetness of the later. Super low latex, everything tears apart very easily with fingers, and fingers never felt sticky entire time. While I did not get deep apricot color of the mother tree I was really looking for, overall very pleased with the quality.

Many many thanks to a very kind forum member for the seeds, whose name I won't mention because he is always bombarded with seeds request anytime he posts something :) .

I have some seeds for trade only if you have something unique. Scions from S. FL are acceptable.
The tree exhibits traits of extreme productivity. Pumping flowers non stop. I removed about 25 male and female flowers in the last few weeks, wanting it to establish a little.




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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cuban fiberless Guanabana blooming
« on: January 20, 2017, 12:49:12 AM »
Quote from: shinzo on January 19, 2017, 02:25:47 PM

3 years from seed? or planted 3 years ago?

From seed. It will likely be a different story in subtopics.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cuban fiberless Guanabana blooming
« on: January 19, 2017, 10:36:43 AM »
Lack of pollinators in your area?
My garden is absolutely teeming with ants, "attacking" every flower there is on every tree.  I was dreading  of doing hand pollination on other annonas, but that problem seems to be well taken care of. Not 100% sure, but it seems like I have thank ants, as other insects don't visit that often.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cuban fiberless Guanabana blooming
« on: January 18, 2017, 09:15:29 AM »
Lory, that's absolutely not true. I believe the poster is a teenager, so it's all forgiven :).
My almost 3 year old holds about 10 fruits now,. It's about 3 meters ( 9 feet) tall. Just had first fruit few days back.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Keledang verification?
« on: January 17, 2017, 12:38:53 AM »
It could indeed very likely to be A. anisophyllus. How did I forget that one! I have vague memory of my anisophyllus when it was young. Leaf shape is different now, but growth habit is definitely the same. It makes branches with leaves as if it is one leaf (if this makes any sense). The only problem with your tree is that leaves are way more elonged than they normally should be. Again, post pics in a few years. They will probably be lobbed by than.

I'm 100% sure it's not pedalai or elasticus. I have few of those.

This tree might be smaller in nature, but actually more difficult to control because it does lend itself to branching. Pedalai migh be giant, but easier giant so to speak. After continuous topping for over 3 years, it's now bushy giant instead of a tall giant.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Keledang verification?
« on: January 16, 2017, 02:44:59 AM »
I didn't think this is artocarpus at first, but yellow lobbed leaf got my attention, and than upon futher observation tip of the tree is definitely artocarpus. It's unlike any tree i have seen ( I have Keledang ). Could be some kind artocarpus cross. If no one IDs,  post picture of the tree again in a year or two. It will likely have different leaf shape by than.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Smaller fruit trees
« on: January 16, 2017, 02:38:41 AM »
Peanut butter fruit. Can definitely be kept under 8 feet. Fruited for me at just 6 feet, 1.5 years from seed. Multiple crops throughout the year. It could be different story in a greenhouse/subtopics.

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