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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My three Carambola
« on: September 06, 2012, 07:20:22 PM »
There is another reason to thin carambola fruits (one that you guys would probably not have).

A local conservatory let their carambola do its thing and got a ton of fruits.  No branches broke but the tree had a hard time putting all that energy into its fruits.  Eventually it got quite weak, and dropped most of its leaves, one year later it is still a sad looking tree.

In a tropical locale I don't think a carambola would have that happen (unless it was in the shade, maybe)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Upcoming movie 'The Fruit Hunters'
« on: September 06, 2012, 05:38:46 PM »
William, don't expect masses to come flooding to the forum after release of this movie. It's not going to get wide exposure. For example, the other acclaimed move by the same director was up the Yen River. How many people have seen that or heard of that?

Masses... well its not going to make this a big community.  But at the same time even an oddball niche film would generate a large ripple in a such tiny community like this.

If fruit were a popular interest (and I never understand why it isn't, but then I also wonder why there aren't cat temples for that matter) one wouldn't notice the effect of some minor film- but fruit is not a popular interest.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Canarian August update
« on: September 06, 2012, 04:28:53 PM »
Mango sap has urushiols which are moderately powerful natural insecticides (and irritant / alergens in humans), I don't think it would do much to kill other plants though.

Black walnut produces polyphenolic herbicides.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Upcoming movie 'The Fruit Hunters'
« on: September 06, 2012, 02:27:00 PM »
Kentucky Fried Movie!  I should know it then since I actually saw that film (albeit when I was a teenager).  I guess I forgot because the sketches in that movie were all over the map (some of the sketches were hillarious, some quite lame, overall I didn't really like the film).  This is actually one of the best sketches.

Yeah the youtube for Get A Life seems to be from VHS.... very poor picture quality.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My three Carambola
« on: September 06, 2012, 07:40:51 AM »
What triggers flowering in Carambola?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Upcoming movie 'The Fruit Hunters'
« on: September 06, 2012, 07:37:50 AM »
How about "Feel-Around" a new movie experience:
Feel-Around

Where is that from?  It looks like footage from the 1970's.  Is it a bit from a movie or a TV show?  It seems ironic that the picture quality on that footage (decades old) is rather nice, but if you look at youtube "Get a Life" episodes (early 90's) their quality is so poor.

It's pretty funny.  I'd definitely prefer FLAVOR-VISON on the fruit hunters though.  A falling durian would be painful in Feel-Around

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Upcoming movie 'The Fruit Hunters'
« on: September 05, 2012, 09:33:12 AM »
I look forward to seeing this movie at Imax in 3D.

We don't need IMAX for this movie!  We need FLAVOR-VISION.   Maybe the theaters should have (instead of buttered popcorn): saifu, Durio dulcis....

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: FGM: Fruiting Cacao in a container
« on: September 04, 2012, 08:06:28 PM »
T.grandiflorum has been fruited here but not sure of speciosum. There are many T.cacao that have fruited outdoors here but the cold of 2009-10 harmed many trees.

Given how you guys get temporary freezing conditions about once every four years, and cool dry air from the north more often than that its surprising how well they do down there.

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Has anyone else had cacao pulp that had much flavor to it?  One guy who grew a number of plants in Central America told me that grower friends of his had T. cacao's where the pulp had flavors like cinnamon overtones.  I like the pulp of T. cacao but it isn't my favorite fruit because I can only detect sweetness and sourness but no other flavors.  T. grandiflora has a LOT of flavor to it.  T. bicolor and T. angustifolium have less flavor than grandiflora but more than cacao.  Supposedly T. speciosum is very tasty.

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Has anyone tried a supermarket tote bag for a fabric pot. I see these for 99¢ at a local dollar store
One like this>>>



If you want to go even less expensive check out the grocery stores etc... when they are unpacking potato / tarro / onion.  You can possibly pick up the mesh bags of those for free.  The disadvantage is that soil might well percolate out.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Litsea
« on: September 04, 2012, 11:26:30 AM »
I notice there is a lot of discussion about Persea americana on the list.

Is anyone growing the various Listea species with edible fruits.

I first got interested in the genus in looking for Litsea garciae but I get the feeling there are a lot of possibly interesting fruits in this genus.

In the Bali Botanical Gardens a local worker was nice enough to furnish me with fruits from a tree labled Litsea sp.  When I later ate one of the fruits I found it to be a bit strongly flavored for just eating by itself- but I think it could be a nice savory flavoring for salads, sandwitches...

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: FGM: Fruiting Cacao in a container
« on: September 04, 2012, 11:10:50 AM »
If gnats fail you try ants.

At a local public park conservatory they have a potted cacao that is fruiting and the polinator there is ants.  One can even see them traversing up and down the trunk to get at the nectar in the flowers (they didn't do the sugar water to get things started).

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: FGM: Fruiting Cacao in a container
« on: September 04, 2012, 07:45:14 AM »
Excellent!
It gives hope to all growers- in pots or not- I haven't been able to get mine to  set fruit at all.   If the fruit reaches maturity, maybe you can spare a few seeds of this early setter. :)

Do you get flowers but no fruit?  If so you're lacking polinators.  Gnats and ants can polinate the Theobromas.  For ants you could put the plant (when in flower) near an ant colony and spray the trunk with sugar water.

They can also be hand polinated, but doing so you might become perminently nearsighted!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: FGM: Fruiting Cacao in a container
« on: September 03, 2012, 09:34:07 PM »
Nice!

If only you had T. grandiflora or T. speciosum.

I find the main thing that does in the Theobromas is low humidity.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: How to keep rats away?
« on: September 02, 2012, 07:24:52 PM »
Rats are eating my jujubes!!! They are many half eaten jujubes on my Li jujube right now. Any ideas to keep these bastards away will be appreciated.

My cats would like to help you.  Of course, only one of them has all her weapons intact (all my cats are "previously owned" and only one has all her claws as a result).  My cats always get excited when birds or squirrels appear.

Seriously I hope you find a good solution.  Poisons can backfire (take out things you don't want to kill) and I don't like to see animals killed so I'd recommend some kind of preventative, maybe a slippery band on your tree so they can't scale up to the fruits.

Good luck

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Abius
« on: September 01, 2012, 08:07:18 PM »
Could this possibly fruit in a container?  If so does anyone have some seed to share?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Accidental experiment
« on: September 01, 2012, 01:11:55 PM »
Apparently the eel had jumped out of the aquarium and was dead on the floor when she came over to check on the cats.  She thought it was a family pet and froze it in a zip top bag for us to pay our last respects.  As soon as she left the eel was in the dumpster.

I'm surprised you didn't return to a frozen skeleton of an eel.  Apparently you cats aren't very hungry.  Mine always enjoy eating and would probably relish fresh seafood if it came their way!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Passionfruit showdown
« on: August 31, 2012, 10:44:44 AM »
Luc: basically sour and acid are the same (in terms of the sensation of taste).

Sometimes you can get sour sensations from things that aren't acids (Magnesium stearate: incidentally it is the salt of an acid)
and some acids might make taste sensations that aren't sour....

but by in large something that is an acid is sour tasting, and usually sour tasting things are acids.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Self Storing Tropical Fruits
« on: August 30, 2012, 07:51:21 PM »
"wax melon" - "winter melon" has many uses such as a flavoring in soups.  My favorite use is "winter melon tea".  I believe the flesh is cooked down with sugar to make it.  The drink is a summertime favorite in Taiwan and it has a very nice sweet flavor.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruiting Potted Plant Recommendations
« on: August 30, 2012, 07:48:34 PM »
In your area you could grow some pomegranates, and the three commercial kiwis outside... plus pawpaw, ariona, serviceberries.
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Does anyone have a good seed source to recommend on the Ugni, Eugenias,...

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruiting Potted Plant Recommendations
« on: August 30, 2012, 04:49:55 PM »
I'd add:

-"wampee"
-Bunchosia argentia
-"white sapote"

(all those have fruited for me in a pot)

I think Randia formsa should be a winner too

The tree tomato might be a heartbreaker... it seems to bitterly complain (wilt/die) if conditions change suddenly (like lighting, humidity, temp, watering) and bringing it inside/outside might do that (if you have a nice greenhouse it might be less of a shock).  I've had the same problem with "pepino" and "cape gooseberry"

E. reinwardtiana is a real winner for container growing.  It is a tough plant and if treated decently sets flower and fruit.  The fruits aren't mango quality but I find them tasty and enjoyable to eat. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Davidson's Plum
« on: August 30, 2012, 04:42:25 PM »
I think I have one of those species in a pot.  Since I grow indoor / outdoors (owing to winter here) should I hit it with K when I take it outside in the mid Spring?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Accidental experiment
« on: August 30, 2012, 04:40:06 PM »
Sorry, hope the marang bounces back....

At least several plants were improved by the unintentional experiment.

When I come back from trips I often have "experiments" like that- either plants that have been standing in water (did in a wampee I had) or plants that are bone dry.  My cat sitter takes care of my plants while I'm away and fortunately doesn't charge me for the service (which is good because she doesn't seem to understand plants).

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mamey @ Superior Grocers
« on: August 29, 2012, 08:12:10 PM »
$1.99/lb!  From Florida to California, how do the do it???  I'd think the shipping would drive the price way up.  Is there a Mamey train going from Fl to Ca (if so I think I want to jump on)?

Here in the DC area Mamey are $3-$5/lb (and not usually 3).  I'd be eating them more often at $1.99/lb (which is the kind of price I associate with more common crops)!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Muntingia calabura
« on: August 29, 2012, 08:05:07 PM »
Does anyone else feel that Pouteria hypoglauca is pretty close in flavor to M. calabura?

To me both are sweet with some light aromatic flavor thrown in (similar to a hint of vanilla).

I should try a mini greenhouse approach to M. calabura, maybe with the jiffy pot tip to boot.  Along with things like Randia formsa, Bunchosia argentia this seems like a good thing to grow in a container.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Passionfruit showdown
« on: August 29, 2012, 05:03:16 PM »
I just wish we could import the less standard passionfruits.

I emailed some company in South America and they said the USDA would only allow a few types (maybe even just P. edulis, as that is the only one I ever see being sold here) and they were selling fruits from a number of species.

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