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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My first taste of Dr. White cherimoya
« on: January 08, 2018, 10:59:20 PM »
2 lb cherimoyas very nice Samu, that would cost a small fortune at the market.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: A stroll through the yard
« on: January 08, 2018, 10:56:06 PM »
Nice fruit collection JF!  Looks like your trees are very happy.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Please help ID this avocado
« on: January 08, 2018, 05:02:26 PM »
It looks almost exactly like the bacons I picked.  Yes they do get very large.  Most you see at the farmers market are quite small.  Minte were about 1.5  - 2lbs.  And well, they were Bacon avocados.  Not great but not bad.

I regret not taking photos of the ones that came off my tree.  They are all gone now but the tree is blooming and there should be more for next year. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: To eat or not to eat??
« on: January 08, 2018, 03:17:45 PM »
Its edible, I have one and tried a few.  Its like very bland dragon fruit.  Its fine to try.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Please help ID this avocado
« on: January 08, 2018, 11:46:58 AM »
I can see it is a large fruit.  Bacons do get that large.  I pulled several bacons and fuertes that size off my trees last month.

The shape and skin look like a large bacon.  If you have photos of the tree it could help also.  Bacon trees make really big clusters of flowers.  And very aggressive avocado weed tree.

I would guess bacon genetics but of course it could be anything if its a seedling. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Please help ID this avocado
« on: January 08, 2018, 11:23:44 AM »
Looks pretty similar to bacon and fuerte.  Awfully shinny though.  May need more time on the tree.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherimoya prices skyrocketing
« on: January 06, 2018, 01:02:25 PM »
4$ a pound in poway today at the farmers market.  Picked up a few good lookers.

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Cherry of rio grande, coffee

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Thangbom, check out "rocket mass heaters".  Thats what I want to put in mine for heat.  Its a bit of learning to make one but they are very cool.  The fire burns super hot to the point there is no ash or smoke.  Only CO2 and water come out.  An exhaust line is buried and coved with rocks or bricks (mass) and heated through the day and then released at night.  Youtube has videos. 

There is some permaculture farm place in Missouri that has some video on greenhouse application and video on youtube.  And they have a website with photos. 

A wood stove will work also but you have to route the exhause upwards and out which makes the roof or end wall design more difficult.

I will try and dig up a rocket mass heater video for you.  You may like it enough to try one somewhere else on your homestead also.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado thread
« on: December 28, 2017, 12:29:14 PM »
Reed is very vigorous for me and a must-have in your collection.  Sir Prize has a bit different fruit character, both really sooooooo fine.   Oro Negro is good perhaps a 6.5 out 10 rating.  My Gwen is a true runt and another very good fruit.  Very productive such that it needs thinning.

Against the grain I use a 12 mo. encapsulated 18-4-9 with micros.  I might tweek it come late fall with a Peters 20-3-19.

Brad, try letting it go black and then pick immediately.  Would like to know if yours ripen ultra fast.  That first one I picked could have been cut in only 2 days for a better quality fruit.  Have 3 more hanging with one on the counter coming in at 12.0 oz.  This is fun!

I will try it if they ever turn black.  They are fully green still here.  Not sure what the hold up is.  Maybe because its still 80F outside.  Im hanging out in shorts and sandals still.  My oranges are not turning orange yet either.  Usually they are ready now. 

I got a 50lb bag of osmocote pro 8-9 month 19-5-8 sitting on the shelf.  I may try some of that on my in ground trees this coming spring.  I like the time release for potted plants a lot.

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Hi Thangbom, for your 20ft hoop bender, 3 pieces of pipe will be about 30' 6".  And the radius of the hoop and the height of your tunnel would be about 10'. 

If you are still wanting to make it 12 feet tall, you will need taller anchor posts or you could use 3 and a half top rails and make the hoops 35' instead of 30'.  Then bend them so there is 2.5' of straight on each end. 

Whatever you decide, you should give yourself at minimum 1ft extra of poly to work with on all 4 sides.  You may want to build your hoops and get them in the ground then order the poly once you know exactly how much to order.  You will have plenty of time to work on poly rails and end walls while they ship you the poly.  This is a time consuming project.

For the anchors, I made my anchors 18" (1.5 ft) long and got my holes dug and concreted with at least a foot of concrete on every 1-5/8" anchor post.  My ground is full of granite where I put the hoop house and I had to jackhammer it out to concrete it.  If your soil is easily diggable, you will want to go much deeper than I did.  You will need 2ft in the earth if its soft clay and no rocks.  You will have to decide.  If the ground is soft and your location is easily accesible, rent a auger to dig deep holes easily.  It will be worth the rental cost.  If you dont concrete each post will you still dig a hole or will you hammer those ones in?  If already digging, just use concrete on them. 

You can make concrete cheap if you can get to a material supply yard that sells recycled concrete.  Its crushed up concrete and sells for 20$ a ton here.  I use that and mix it 5 parts recycle concrete to 1 part portland cement.  Its 4 or 5 times cheaper than buying bags of concrete at the store.  Get 100lbs sacks of portland cement at home depot for every 500lbs of recycle concrete.

And to save time and cost, just smoosh the bottom of the anchor post or bend them to keep them in place instead of screws. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado thread
« on: December 27, 2017, 05:56:00 PM »
Nice one Mark,  weird your skin is sticking.  It peels right off mine.  My fuertes stick like you are saying though.  I picked another green Sir Prize and its on the counter now.  They are all still green.  Had a bacon get over ripe.  Been eating hass, bacon, fuerte, and 2nd Sir Prize is coming. 

Samu, thats a bummer, I had lots of hass knock off in the santa anas.  It seems the key is to water water water for that weather.

Boxturtle Reed is a medium fast grower.  They grow pretty fast if they arent holding fruits. If its in full sun it should hit its stride next summer.

 I quit fertilizing back in September but its been so hot they could use a feeding probably.  Any citrus/avocado food will work.  Usually hit them every few months with a few handfulls of fertilizer on the mulch and then water it in.  Was hoping we would get some rain soon to leach out the soil but its not looking like much rain this winter.

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Also noteworthy is even if you can keep them alive, Avocado trees tend to look lanky and sickly in colder areas.  Farther north with cold temps is not go to make a nice producing healthy tree most likely.  Even if it doesn't die, it may just be barely hanging on.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Wind-resistant shade house design
« on: December 26, 2017, 10:57:46 AM »
You could copy my hoop house design and use shade cloth instead of plastic.  It will take the wind and keep animals out.  Theres a thread called hoop house with photos down the page.

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People in northern California grow Mexicola and it is more cold tolerant than other avocados.  Its going to die in single digit temps.  They are supposed to be good to low 20s F.  Theres tons of info out there on this if you google Mexicola.  Its not a scam to sell more trees, these trees are native to mountains in Mexico where it gets colder.

If you are going to plant 1 or 2 for the family, go ahead and plant them and cross your fingers.  Whats the worst that will happen?  If you are going to plant a 100 of them, don't.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Growing fruit trees in pots
« on: December 24, 2017, 04:52:49 PM »
It looks like a good idea to use that.  The only issue may be it is not PH neutral.  Best to test water soaked in that in a bucket.  Then rinse and see if you can change the ph.  It maybe PH neutral, you just need to test and see.  They have cheap 10$ PH tester pens or liquud test kits on amazon if you dont already have one.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Cherimoya seeds
« on: December 24, 2017, 01:52:41 PM »
The fruit looks good! Can you tell us the variety? Thanks!

Kent

Don't know sorry.  Picked up from one of the farm vendors.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Cherimoya seeds
« on: December 24, 2017, 01:48:08 PM »
Hi Thanks

Can you please ship to India with a tracking number.
I will buy 30 seeds.

BR

Fysal

Fysal, I sent you a message with payment info.  I can ship to India.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Hoop house
« on: December 24, 2017, 01:00:40 PM »
The unit is making 35ppm.  Thats pretty good.  More waste means less wear on the membrane.  So this unit cleans pretty well...

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Cherimoya seeds
« on: December 23, 2017, 12:37:29 PM »
Excellent fruits.  Have more seeds than I can use, do not want to throw away.

50 cents a seeds, 3$ for shipping in the USA.   7$ international shipping.

Send a PM for paypal info.




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You should price out the Poly and shade and a fan and motorized shutters from farmtek and greenhousemega store. 

For a HH that large you will need a really large fan and shutters to refresh the air.  And a lot of poly and shade.  That stuff is not cheap.  You will probably be into it for close to 2500 just for a fan, motorized shutter,  poly, shade, and electrical work.  That does not include all the hoops and framing.  It adds up fast trust me. 

Bigger is better though for sure.  I like your dimensions you have planned.  Thats a great size. 

Trust me on the double poly.  You will kick yourself for not doing it the 1st time.  Much easier to do it to start with.

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Thangbom, a couple things that you need to realize before starting. 

1.) Biggest issue is a single layer of poly will not keep out the cold of your HH.  You saw my HH thread and I can already tell you it gets as cold in there at night as it is outside.  You should design it with 2 layers of poly.  You can use hard plastic twin wall on the end walls for better insulation or design it with 2 layers of poly.  The main hoop part you can double layer and use an inflation fan.  Trust me on this part, if your goal is to keep the temps up at night you MUST do more than a single poly layer. 

2. ) Bigger is better, except that it will cost more to heat and cool it.  So keep that in mind.  I made mine pretty large and am now considering heating and there is not a good option.  At least no cheap options.  And doubling up the poly is a big change.  I should have done it to begin with.  Luckily here it never gets below the mid 30s so its ok without heat.  Having it sitting around 60 at night would be better but its not going to happen this year.

3.)  Budget, forget 2500$, for a hoop house that big done properly you better budget 2X that much. 

4.) Power, run electrical and a small sub panel to it for power.  240 volts 30 or 50 amps if possible.  You will want to be able to run lots of fans, heaters, coolers, lights etc.  More power is better, an extra conductor to get 240V gives you 2X the power with only 1 more wire.  If you have a panel close by, #10, 4 conductor wire will get you 30Amps.  Thats a good amount ofa power.

5.) Shade cloth, greenhouse mega store has it.  Can get custom sizes.  Use aluminet or white if you cant afford aluminet.  I spent a lot of time researching the shade and aluminet is the best.  I got half my hoop house covered now with it.  Run it on the outside to keep the heat out.

6.) Critters, I have lots of critters.  I keep the doors closed.  Otherwise you will have critters. 

Good luck, nice homestead you guys have.  If you want to ask me more questions I am happy to answer what I can.  I learned a lot on my project.  Could really make an amazing HH if I was doing it over again.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Hoop house
« on: December 22, 2017, 10:43:52 AM »
Last I checked our well TDS was aroud 600.  City water in San Diego is 400ish. 

I already have an RO system in my house for drinking water and only do the membrane every year.  Its always still getting us down to 75ppm but we still replace it.

I havent checked what the TDS is at on this outdoor unit.  I assume its similar to the house unit and 75ish ppm.  Will check that out.

I am planning on filling the hoop house with plants and they will all get RO.  So it will be getting used.  My guess is 2 or 3 used membranes a year max. The unit does have an adjustment for how much waste water it produces.  I ran a long line out of the hoop house onto my bananas and passion fruits with the waste water.  So the RO is flushing extra water onto my outside plants.  The high waste water setting is supposed to extend membrane life.  Since you and I have well water and also can use the waste water, no need to feel guilty or worry about cost to using more water.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Dragon fruit cuttings
« on: December 21, 2017, 07:32:38 PM »
San Ignacio,
Dark Star,
American Beauty,
Condor,
Makisupa,

Have whats in the photo just cut today.  Actively growing plants.

7$ a cutting.  Please send a PM to see what I still have and I can send a paypal address.  Will have more types of cuttings available soon.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado thread
« on: December 21, 2017, 12:22:50 PM »
The skin on mine are extra thin.  But it just about falls off of long sliced pieces.  Very easy to prepare.  Just use a knife instead of a spoon.

Also, no need to treat with lime juice, Sir Prize doesn't oxidize.

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