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I have 4 varieties, all grown in containers.
I also get harvest from them every year starting in July to October.

- Biew Kiew
- Diamond River
- Kohala
- Sri Chompoo

Kohala can be planted in ground here without issues.
I kept mine outdoors without any protection, looks like the cold weather didn't bother it at all.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Will rats attack dragon fruit?
« on: March 28, 2018, 01:53:56 PM »
Growing extra means a larger rodent population.
The only solution is extermination.

I have 6 massive clusters of dragon fruit and growing extra makes it worse without rodent control.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Will rats attack dragon fruit?
« on: March 27, 2018, 11:53:23 AM »
Sure , rats and mouses. They mostly empty the fruit from 1 spot and leave you only the shell.

Agreed, they ate 6 of my dragon fruits leaving only the outer shell.
They ate it from the backside, so when it turned read for me to harvest I only received a 2" hole with an empty shell.

- Papaya
- Dragon Fruit
- Sweet Citrus

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I have several jabos, Sabara and Hybrid are fruiting year round.
The Red Hybrid is a very prolific producer at an early age.
I was able to get fruits every month up until winter.

I would have to say Sabara increases production every year as it ages.
The Hybrid seems to have a consistent amount once it starts producing, haven't seen any major increase in harvest.

Long term I'd have to say they're both equal in accordance to the size and age of the tree.
Due to the fact that the sabara's harvest increases to catch up with the hybrid production.
My zone gets really cold, below 30's so I'm sure if it's in a warmer climate it'll produce better.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fabric pots opinion?
« on: March 22, 2018, 04:32:56 PM »
I stand on them to prune, pick fruit or pollenate and sometimes yell at birds.
Aside from that I stack trays of veggies and seedlings below them.

They're also much easier to carry, also move around with a dolly compared to fabric.
I can see how these could be useful in a more adequate climate.

But they're definitely not easy to clean once soil has been sitting in there.
Giving an honest opinion from someone in the same zone, but to each their own.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Worm castings fertilizer?
« on: March 22, 2018, 02:10:20 PM »
I use worm castings as my primary fertilizer along with osmocote.
The worm castings is a homemade blend with azomite incorporated into the worm bin.
Been using that combination for a while and it's been working well.

As far as cold wise, all you really have to do is keep them covered from frost.
Also remember wind here in SJ is deadly to trees, it'll burn them due to the dry and thick air.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fabric pots opinion?
« on: March 22, 2018, 02:00:47 PM »
I've used them and wasn't a big fan.

Pros
- Easy to store
- Great for air pruning
- Pack into tight spaces
- Encourages quicker root growth

Cons
- Twice the amount of saturation is needed
- Dries up much quicker since it vented all around
- Cannot stand on it
- Cannot stack
- Mold issues
- Clogged

If you live in drier areas and wind (San Jose), I would try it out first before you throw all your eggs in the same basket.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rats Started Eating My Papayas
« on: March 22, 2018, 12:06:40 AM »
I've caught many birds with my live traps, it's funny how they even get in there.
Caught the same one more than 3 times before, because I put a paper dymo label on their leg.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rats Started Eating My Papayas
« on: March 20, 2018, 01:02:57 PM »
My cat was feral, she stumbled out of the woods when she was a kitten.  Got her young enough to tame her, but can never fully get the feral out of a cat.  She wants to be outdoors most of the time, comes in to eat and sleep, then wants to go back out. 

She is a prolific killer of rats, I have no idea where they keep coming from she gets so many.  Some she eats, I try to take them from her as you never know what they may be carrying.

She is the best cat in the world, she never once has gone to the bathroom in the house.  She doesn't even use the litter box, she only goes outside.  I almost wish she wasn't fixed as she can't live forever.

Yes, we had her fixed, she gets her shots, we do give her flea treatments, etc. 

Now, like I said, if only I could get her to chased the *&#$@& deer out of my yard....

The dog will, but I'm always afraid she may dart out into the street, she is pitch black and there are no street lights on our street, so I do worry about her getting hit by a car.  She is also a good dog, I had a bear that kept knocking over my beehives, the dog took off after that bear fearlessly.  She is a tad nuts sometime, she is a curr, bred to hunt hogs.

That's a very wonderful experience and I'm glad the outcome was so pleasant!
You did the right thing treating her, because I was told that they live a healthier life.

My ferals are the same way too, they'll claw me from time to time but without their paws.
They used to hiss so much but now they stopped, all the do is meow or purr.
They too, do not like staying indoors, they love it outdoors, always finding somewhere high to perch.

I saw her chase after a raccoon omg I thought the coon was going to eat her!
Then her sister showed up, and they double teamed them it was unreal how it happened, totally amazing!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rats Started Eating My Papayas
« on: March 20, 2018, 12:58:48 PM »
I feel for you on this subject.  Check out Uromys caudimaculatus (can grow 3 times the size of a black rat) and or Hydromys chrysogaster ( there is a family using my fountain at night )  They eat my seeds and cut down the small trees from ground level for bedding material.  I use wire over seed pots. Generally catch them in cages with peanut butter and relocate.

To my understanding, feral cats in parts of Australia have brought many species to the brink of extinction.
Many reasons why I support spayed or neutered cats.
I thought there were other apex predators and cats were slightly below them.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rats Started Eating My Papayas
« on: March 20, 2018, 12:39:31 PM »
I agree cats are amazing.  I'm curious, do you feed your outdoor cats?  Or are they able to survive on just the rodents and other things they catch?  Also, do you give them flea/tick treatment?

Hate to break it to you, but if you see one rat then there's another 50 waiting somewhere else to forage your garden.
I had the same issue with rodents for several years, spent thousands, literally thousands of dollars on rodent control.

- Exterminators
- Live traps
- Sticky Traps
- Planks
- Water cannons
- Ultrasonic
- Alarms
- Pneumatic rods
The list goes on

Killed dozens a week and they keep coming and coming in swarms.
Literally at night you can hear them chewing on your trees making a new nest.
These aren't small rats, they're large Norwegian roof rats, tail girth is the size of your pinky finger, easily a 2-3 pounder.

During the day, it's squirrels...

Then I introduced 2 feral cats, amazing animals.
Best of all they were free!!!

Came to my scheduled appointment to pick them up at the animal shelter.
- Received all shots (They put down animals infected with rabies)
- Spayed or neutered
- Carriers and toiletry
- Microchipped
- You have a guarantee, if you do not like them return them no questions asked

I spent a few months taming and training them, but you'd have to keep them enclosed for a few weeks.
I took the time and patience to raise mine and it paid off handsomely.

Now, when I'm in the garden, the cats just curl up next to me, sleep or lay in the pots without digging any holes.
I leave 2 litter boxes, 1 on each end of the house.
It's a great feeling knowing you can grow anything and not have rodents eat everything down to a nub.

Hi Barath,

I feed them canned tuna with no bi-product, it's $.66 per 5oz can from the grocery stores.
I split the can in half and mix it with Meow Mix dry food.
I spend 15-20 bucks a month to feed them.

They're only fed when I see them by my door, that means they didn't catch anything that night and they're hungry.
OR they sometimes bring a dead rat or bird to my backyard door expecting for a trade.
They may be feral but sometimes they just chase and kill their prey without eating it.
I don't give them flea or tick meds, they received their shots and don't seem to have issues with fleas yet.
Until they show signs I'll provide them

Mine get along very well with my dogs, I have 3 dogs, 1 toy sized, 2 small sized.
They like to have lunch or dinner together when I feed them it's pretty amazing how wild animals can get along so well.
Unlike humans, it's like we're born to hate and not appreciate company of others.
I also pick mine up and play with them from time to time.

I grew up not liking cats my whole life and skeptical about the outcome, but these 2 have stole my heart and I love them as much as my dogs. They're very affectionate once you take the time to appreciate them. Trust me on this, if you have a big garden, you'll be very happy with cats as their company in the garden speaks volumes of how much more enjoyable your garden can be.

Male cats tend to wander off frequently, female cats will stay with you as long as you provide them food, water and shelter.
They love cardboard boxes, just throw a towel in there and that's all they need.
The maintenance is very low, much easier than my dogs to be honest.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rats Started Eating My Papayas
« on: March 19, 2018, 06:47:45 PM »
Hate to break it to you, but if you see one rat then there's another 50 waiting somewhere else to forage your garden.
I had the same issue with rodents for several years, spent thousands, literally thousands of dollars on rodent control.

- Exterminators
- Live traps
- Sticky Traps
- Planks
- Water cannons
- Ultrasonic
- Alarms
- Pneumatic rods
The list goes on

Killed dozens a week and they keep coming and coming in swarms.
Literally at night you can hear them chewing on your trees making a new nest.
These aren't small rats, they're large Norwegian roof rats, tail girth is the size of your pinky finger, easily a 2-3 pounder.

During the day, it's squirrels...

Then I introduced 2 feral cats, amazing animals.
Best of all they were free!!!

Came to my scheduled appointment to pick them up at the animal shelter.
- Received all shots (They put down animals infected with rabies)
- Spayed or neutered
- Carriers and toiletry
- Microchipped
- You have a guarantee, if you do not like them return them no questions asked

I spent a few months taming and training them, but you'd have to keep them enclosed for a few weeks.
I took the time and patience to raise mine and it paid off handsomely.

Now, when I'm in the garden, the cats just curl up next to me, sleep or lay in the pots without digging any holes.
I leave 2 litter boxes, 1 on each end of the house.
It's a great feeling knowing you can grow anything and not have rodents eat everything down to a nub.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Possible Hydroponics Candidates?
« on: March 13, 2018, 04:07:47 PM »
I recently got into soiless propagation of different leafy vegetables, and would like to experiment with tropical/subtropical fruits.
Can anyone add to my list of ideas? Guava?
As of aeroponics, I know of someone who is propagating dragon fruit.
I am open to aeroponic and aquaponic candidates as well.

Papaya
Pineapple
Citrus
Jaboticaba
Passionfruit

Thanks in advance!

Aeroponics will work with the following:

Dragon Fruit
Papaya
Passionfruit

The above will work only on a small scale tree/plant.
As it becomes larger you'll have to dedicate the entire tower or aeroponics structure for a mature tree.
I'm growing the 3 above on a small scale, nothing too massive to show off yet.
They're grown next to my 2" net pots of veggies.
I also use my own blend of nutrients, it's just an experiment to see how they grow.

As they get bigger you'll have to replace the net pots if you're using them.
Lots of attention to detail involved when operating, so I kept it on a smaller scale to see the pros and cons vs soil.
I was actually afraid of the papaya and dragonfruit growing so big it'll break the structure.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is my Longan tree dying?
« on: March 02, 2018, 01:56:40 PM »
Looks like a combination of the following:
- Root Rot
- Pests
- Improper nutrients

The yellow leaves look like they're going to drop soon.
Did you quarantine the tree when you got it?

When I get a tree(s) anywhere I always quarantine in an enclosure with garden spray to kill off any unwanted pests.
Then I leave the tree in partial sun to allow acclimation.

Root Rot
Let the tree dry out a bit before watering especially with all the rain we're getting.
Looks like it absorbed all kinds of unwanted nutrients

Pests
Spray it lightly with a mixture of neem and horticulture oil 1:20 water before the sun sets
Giving you light to see, while not burning the plants or killing any beneficial insects.

Improper Nutrients
I would recommend giving it some worm castings to fix the yellowing and fading leaves.
It'll also help it with photosynthesis, flushing new growth especially around this time in CA.

Good news is you have lots of new growth flushes.
You will need to prune off the dead branches (black) otherwise it'll infect the rest of the tree.

No the tree isn't dying, it's trying to grow with minimal resources.
You may want to repot it too, looks like it is rootbound with that massive trunk.
I would give it a 20-25 if you have the space.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: jaboticaba prunning
« on: March 02, 2018, 01:50:43 PM »
I pruned mine in early Jan, there were minimal flowers.
Today, there are clusters of them everywhere and the tree looks much prettier.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2018 Lychee Bloom
« on: February 21, 2018, 12:33:51 PM »
any advice for improving fruit yield and preventing loss?

how to prevent fruit drop, fungus/aphids, and other common causes of early loss?

I rest a container of lady bugs on the center of the canopy.
I let them go ape $#!+ over any aphids or bugs they see as food.

In the evening I spray it down with neem/orange oil/horticulture mix.
Once it dries, it looks like nothing was there at all.
At this time, the lady bugs have already left the area or found their hiding spots.

I check the following day and discover that the lady bugs are perfectly fine.
They're actually quite hardy, my praying mantis's though are very skittish.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: sapote trees
« on: February 20, 2018, 02:27:21 PM »
Maybe you were looking at a larger size?

99% of the trees typically have a tag with a price on it, marked on the pot or has a picket with the pricing.
If not priced, it may be the only one left. Search within the vicinity to verify.
I've never had an issue with their pricing, during their sales it's usually much less than the marked prices.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jackfruit at whole foods
« on: February 20, 2018, 02:13:55 PM »
Wow that's very expensive...
Here in the Asian markets, they're around $.49 - $.89#

They're also from Mexico, organic?
I'm not sure but how else would you grow Jackfruit? :blank:

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2018 Lychee Bloom
« on: February 20, 2018, 01:29:40 PM »
Blooming here in San Jose, 9b.
It was going so well, then a cold snap hit us again.

Low 30's to high 20's this week.
Lychee is kept inside a greenhouse, it typically sits outdoors covered.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Longan air layer in san diego
« on: February 01, 2018, 04:08:27 PM »
I did my air layers in spring but most of which failed.
Only callous clusters showed up without any roots.
Needless to say, my luck is crappy for spring air layers with all the growth sap coursing through the tree.

I removed half the callous tissue and did it again in September after harvest, I now have a healthy Air Layered Kohala Longan tree.
The rootball was quite healthy, height of the tree is 2-3 feet splitting into a 2 separate branches.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Anybody growing Tahoe Gold Mandarin.
« on: January 31, 2018, 03:21:55 PM »
Check out Costco when you have the chance in spring, there's a massive selection to choose from.
After spring, they lower the prices to 15 bucks a bucket in my area.
There's a large Asian community here, same with SoCal so they always pick the good ones before they are moved off the pallets.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: RIP Anestor Mezzomo
« on: January 29, 2018, 07:42:30 PM »
Very sorry to hear this, my condolences to the family.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Black spots on avocado twig
« on: January 29, 2018, 12:19:13 PM »
Have this avocado Black Streak on quite a few.  Wrote a Cali. fruit agent, never got an answer.  Am wondering if it's a virus disease like Sun Blotch or what.  Sent tissue samples to a Florida lab, came back benign, said it was probably a cultural issue - "give it good care, water, fertilizer, etc."

Yours looks like either soot from scale or a fungus disease.  Recommend an OMRI approved fungicide like MagnaBon.  It's a copper systemic.  I just lost my entire collection in the greenhouse because of a failed heater but took steps afterwards to curtail any bacterial disease in case something survived the 18F by spraying all branches with another copper product, Phyton35 and doing a thorough soil drench of the same.

Mark



Hi Mark, this may be me going on a tangent but do you keep separate pruners for different trees to avoid contamination?
I'm quite OCD and have a massive collection of trees so I have each labelled for different trees/species, rinse with alcohol each tree is pruned.
Not sure if anyone else does it besides me, pretty expensive but peace of mind at the end of the day.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Star Apples from Vietnam
« on: January 23, 2018, 11:57:56 AM »
If I were you,  I'd not be eating star apples from Vietnam.  Some one just shared a video of maggots or parasites found inside the star apples from Vietnam on Facebook. H/she bought it from Little Saigon's. The video posted on California Tropical Fruit Growers.

Awesome, bon appetite.

I find that hard to swallow, since maggots or parasites need dead flesh to host their pupate stage.
Even at home with all the fallen fruit and dog $#!+ everywhere I've never seen anything like it in fruits.
It's possible it may be caterpillars of some sort?

The source she received it from probably had poor handling, but I've bought a box, consumed half and haven't seen anything but delicious white milky flesh. Would I still eat it if maggots appeared? You bet! It's a stellar deal to get protein packed in your fruit!

Best way to eat it, refrigerate, roll around with pressure on flat surface, make a incision on the center all the way around the fruit and pry open. It'll come out perfectly and easy to eat with a spoon or just invert the skin to devour. Add condensed milk and crushed ice to preferred amount.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Star Apples from Vietnam
« on: January 21, 2018, 07:35:38 PM »
How many pounds is that, doesn't say.
My guess is 10 pounds with that flat box?

Looks like they're starting to import these in San Jose/SF Bay Area.
Saw some at the little Saigon Market here in SJ on Story, $8 bucks a pound.

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