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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What Mangoes should I plant for a full acre commercial/hobby farm?
« on: January 15, 2017, 09:20:00 PM »
I guess lychee are out, I dont really care for them myself anyway.   


SKHAN, I guess edger is available in 3gl now. Is that the only thing you would plant or just putting in $0.01 to leave other options? My first thought was Phoenix but only based on reputation. Of course I should probably plant multiple varieties

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What Mangoes should I plant for a full acre commercial/hobby farm?
« on: January 15, 2017, 06:17:35 PM »
 Tell me more about lychee. I see alot of them around here. There's a 2 acre Grove two lots away from me and it is over grown with oak trees and a total mess. I asked the 87 year old owner about it and she said it put her kids through collage ( in the 70's) it could totally be brought back if I could lease or buy it but I think she is leaving it to her our of state son. What do lychee sell for?

Quote from: Squam256 on January 15, 2017, 03:33:18 PM
I hope you plant lots of lychees.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What Mangoes should I plant for a full acre commercial/hobby farm?
« on: January 15, 2017, 06:09:45 PM »
 Sounds like good advice. I'll save the cotton candy for myself lol. I probably won't plant keitts just because I don't really think they are that great.

Quote from: zands on January 15, 2017, 02:04:21 PM
Your buyers can get mangoed out as August closes. As a vast generalization I would concentrate on the early and mid season mangoes. Plus mangoes that extend into mid August or so.

I happen to like NW cherries and pay attention to the cherry price every season. They always start off high then go down to $2 or so as the mid season harvest floods in.
Ask around to serious growers and see if early mangoes can be priced higher. I don't have good info for you on this. But I do know that only my hard core mango "appreciators" show up and want my Keitts after say August 20th.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: When should I let my trees bear fruit
« on: January 15, 2017, 09:46:02 AM »
Carrie when planted.

Carrie now. It held one fruit in the last two seasons and is the better looking of my trees.

VP one year ago.

VP now. I let it fruit both years didn't get much, was definitely a waist.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: When should I let my trees bear fruit
« on: January 15, 2017, 01:28:12 AM »
Non taken,  I appreciate the assistance and look forward to getting it right.

Quote from: bsbullie on January 14, 2017, 08:58:47 PM
Quote from: mangomongo on January 14, 2017, 08:51:27 PM
On the "no blooms" thread Rob posted that my 25gl fruit punch was probably only 2.5 to 3yrs old I would have expected it to be alot older based on the size of the trees I have had in the ground for 2.5 years but they are not as vigorous of varieties. I guess letting go them hold onto there fruit must have really stunted them. I don't have them set up with errigation eather and stopped watering get the lawn because the sprinkler system runs on city water.  I'm going to set up a drip line to them. I was afraid to over water and rot the roots.

My estimate on age was based on when it was released.  I also thinking the vigor may be based on your location and or care (no offense meant).

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: When should I let my trees bear fruit
« on: January 14, 2017, 08:51:27 PM »
On the "no blooms" thread Rob posted that my 25gl fruit punch was probably only 2.5 to 3yrs old I would have expected it to be alot older based on the size of the trees I have had in the ground for 2.5 years but they are not as vigorous of varieties. I guess letting go them hold onto there fruit must have really stunted them. I don't have them set up with errigation eather and stopped watering get the lawn because the sprinkler system runs on city water.  I'm going to set up a drip line to them. I was afraid to over water and rot the roots.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What Mangoes should I plant for a full acre commercial/hobby farm?
« on: January 14, 2017, 05:50:59 PM »
Merritt island. We apparently have excellent soil and conditions for mango, lychee and avocado.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / What Mangoes should I plant for a full acre commercial/hobby farm?
« on: January 14, 2017, 03:08:22 PM »
I just got the go ahead to start preparing and planting a full acre as a joint endeavor with a friend. I want to get it right as it could lead to more opportunities. I am also open to lychee or anything else that would be able to make this a profitable endeavor. I was thinking about starting with the best of the new releases Phoenix, cotton candy and maybe Kathy? that way my investment in trees would be low since I can only get 3gl but Im open to anything.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mulching for New Orchard - Good or Bad?
« on: January 12, 2017, 09:26:11 PM »
When you get ready to sell mangoes i'll come buy some.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mulching for New Orchard - Good or Bad?
« on: January 12, 2017, 08:29:57 PM »
If you don't mind me asking? what varieties do you plan to plant and why?  How close together and how many per acre?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: When should I let my trees bear fruit
« on: January 12, 2017, 02:17:26 PM »
So a 7gl tree is probably 2-3 years old in the pot, 2 years in the ground should be good enough to let it hold it's fruit without being a negative for the tree ? I think I will agree on manageable size. I just want them to get to a size that will make a bunch of fruit as fast as they can. that's why I started buying the 25gl trees.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: When should I let my trees bear fruit
« on: January 11, 2017, 08:31:43 PM »
The VP is in the center of the front yard for a shade tree but the rest I just want to get producing a decent amount as soon as I can. I figured once they get good and stout ill switch to just potassium. I have a bag of 0-0-60 but wasn't sure if it would be good to put some down now? we also have excellent soil from the looks of the ginormous mango trees in the neighborhood and what I've been told. the neighborhood was a fruit tree farm in the 40's.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: When should I let my trees bear fruit
« on: January 11, 2017, 07:40:18 PM »
I figured the compost was a good supply of steady non-harmful nitrogen but I had been throwing a little "azalea fertilizer" around the drip line might have ben 8-6-8 or something in that range every 6 weeks or so. Then I switched to garden tone citrus and avocado fertilizer thinking it would be better? I push a shovel handle down in the ground in three or four places a few inches deep and fill it with the fertilizer. I got a little gun shy after killing my Kent and almost killing my Glenn by burring some Mahi carcasses. (I'm a "if one is good, six is better guy")

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: When should I let my trees bear fruit
« on: January 11, 2017, 05:40:00 PM »
I have, and I planted them with a lot of organic compost to make sure they did well the first few years. The have definitely grown but after seeing Mike's (OFDsurfer) trees that he grew from 3gls im disappointed in mine. His trees are huge and have been in the ground for 8 yrs. Could I expect a serious growth spurt after a few years or should I expect steady growth threw out the years?

Quote from: Cookie Monster on January 11, 2017, 03:53:13 PM
Have you fertilized them?

Quote from: mangomongo on January 11, 2017, 03:04:30 PM
I have several trees that have been in the ground for about two years now. All started out as mature for the pot 7gl. I never culled the fruit off at all, I just let them do there thing and got a few from each last year but not much at all. Now the trees seem like they didn't grow as much as I thought they would have. Is that from letting them fruit or possibly from a poor root system from being in the pot too long and not root pruning them? Also hurricane Mathew nocked them around a bit and I have to stake some. 

VP
Carrie
CC
Glenn
Lemon meringue 7gl in ground for months. full of BB sized fruit.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: When should I let my trees bear fruit
« on: January 11, 2017, 05:33:45 PM »
would you say that even the new 25gl trees should be culled?

Quote from: Central Floridave on January 11, 2017, 03:48:07 PM
That is a strong possibility!   20 years ago I let small trees fruit and they seem to have forever been stunted.  There are other factors why my trees are stunted but that could have started the process! 

I think it is best to take the fruit off and let the tree get established first before allowing the fruit to mature.  Makes sense to allow the nutrients to go to root development instead of fruit.   

Mango are pretty tough plants.  The only thing that kills them in my opinion is human care (or a freeze).  Left alone by themselves they will grow and fruit by themselves rather well. Especially on M.I.!  (I'm just North of Pineda)

  Pruning of course is needed to keep the fruit within reach.  Good luck!



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / When should I let my trees bear fruit
« on: January 11, 2017, 03:04:30 PM »
I have several trees that have been in the ground for about two years now. All started out as mature for the pot 7gl. I never culled the fruit off at all, I just let them do there thing and got a few from each last year but not much at all. Now the trees seem like they didn't grow as much as I thought they would have. Is that from letting them fruit or possibly from a poor root system from being in the pot too long and not root pruning them? Also hurricane Mathew nocked them around a bit and I have to stake some. 

VP
Carrie
CC
Glenn
Lemon meringue 7gl in ground for months. full of BB sized fruit. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: No Mango Blooms...
« on: January 11, 2017, 02:57:43 PM »
I'll start a thread for that.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: No Mango Blooms...
« on: January 11, 2017, 02:54:30 PM »
Most of my trees have full or at least some Blooms. Im guessing that the rest will come out in a few weeks after this cold snap we just had. It supposedly got to the upper 40's in Merritt island. I have a new 25gl fruit punch in the ground as of two weeks ago. How bad do you thing it would be if I let it hang a few fruit it's first year in the ground? I would think it's at least 5 yrs old in the pot for how big it is.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Bloom Fairy Coming to South Florida
« on: January 02, 2017, 06:18:09 PM »
I have a nube question. Should I throw a little 0-0-60 around the trees to help them flower/ push fruit.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 25Gal Francis Hargrave Mango Tree Planted .
« on: January 02, 2017, 06:11:29 PM »
Not familiar with "francis Hargrave"  Tell me everything lol.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: New Zill mangoes -- The monoembryonic vs polyembryonic breakdown
« on: December 31, 2016, 09:54:04 PM »
I know I'm digging up an old thread but it sparked some curiosity.  Are the seeds mentioned really poly and is anyone growing them out with confidance that they will have clone of a CC,LZ or ST? 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Are you enjoying mangos from your freezer?
« on: December 31, 2016, 06:11:26 PM »
 
Quote from: shinzo on December 31, 2016, 05:32:45 PM
I cut them in little cubes and freeze them horizontally in a plate for the first 2 hours, then once they freeze i separate them and put them in plastic boxes (i do the first step so that they don't stick together and this way i can take out the number of cubes i want to eat directly from the freezer without having to thaw the hole box)

 That's defiantly the way to go so you can get some treats with minimal effort all year long. When I get tire of cutting them up (or full from eating all the odd shaped piece I freeze them whole. I wait until they are at the perfect stage of ripeness and sometimes a little beyond how I eat them fresh, to really bring out the flavor not worrying about the texture. It makes it easy to identify the variety and not get mixed up in a bag or have so many half empty bags in the freezer. I take the whole ones out set them on the cutting board and wait 10min until I can cut the bottom end off to stand it up. I then use a butcher knife to process down each side of the seed ( business as usual)  sharing the odd shaped pieces with my kids who are by this time crying "mango daddy". Then we feast, if they loose too much of the frozen firmness I just put them back in on the plate until they are little frozen rays of sunshine. 

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Tropical Fruit Online Library / Re: Mango: specialty plant nutrition management guide (by Dr Steven A.)
« on: December 30, 2016, 08:46:08 PM »
I just read that whole thing, Now I understand less than before lol.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: December Keitt Mango in Los Angeles?
« on: December 30, 2016, 05:09:13 PM »
That's a big mango on a little tree. My understanding is that flavor will not be of the quality you would want due to the tree's age and of coarse the tree is using all of it's energy to make that thing. It doesn't look ready to pick to me but I think it's too late to worry about what that's doing to the tree.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is this mango foliage?
« on: December 30, 2016, 05:02:07 PM »
Definitely mango.

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