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Quote from: FlyingFoxFruits on July 22, 2015, 06:06:30 PM


you might be better off letting the tree get only morning sun, and end of day sun....never let it get mid day sun.

the best way to achieve this, is to plant it (place it) underneath the canopy of a large tree.



Hi, Adam, this is because of his climate? I burned 2 sabara jabos (5 years old, poted) because of our sun (and, sometimes, we have dry summers)





I would like to plant 4 or 5 jaboticabas this spring in our backyard, one maybe m. cauliflora "paulista" (it seems to like full sun...),



some sabaras



they are 50cm tall or so...

and maybe m. vexator... but I dont want them to suffer a lot because of the sun...

I am interested in your planting technique: under other trees that serve as "support", then I would prune these large trees when jaboticabas grow, and give them more light.

On one side of the backyard we have guava, lemon, SG and pitangas that could provide support, they would have sun from the morning (the wall blocks the sun from the evening)


but on the other side we have no trees (they would have sun from the noon and evening)... how to resolve the situation? any other support tree I would plant now, it will take 3 or 4 years to be large enough for shade at noon ...

maybe putting shade cloth over the new jabos would be right? or maybe putting a lot of 1.5m tall potted trees around them?

I will be watering only with rain water if possible. We are building a tin roof that will empty all rain water  into a tank of 500 liters

What else should I look for about planning a jaboticaba plantation?

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Hi, I did it in spanish... dont have too much time these days, but maybe I could do it in english later

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeZXGWiXGw4&feature=youtu.be

By the way: how should I embed a video in this forum???

Various species under the protection of the new greenhouse built by Ricardo and Adriana from "Apihuerto", which I recommend because they do a beautiful job with great care in Argentina.

Some plants passed cold and frost during the autumn when they were still outside, so they are not in the best shape yet.

The rarest species, at least in Argentina, are: cempejack (Hawaii), chachafruto (Colombia), grimal Jaboticaba (Brazil / USA), cabelluda (Taiwan / Brazil), Jaboticaba blue or vexator (Venezuela / Portugal), Jaboticaba Red Hybrid or precoce (Hawaii / Brazil / Japan), Chamba (Peru / Colombia), which need to be protected from the cold, dry wind during our winter.

In contrast, native species such as Pitangas, Guaviyú, arazá, guavas, native jaboticabas, some psidium like p. longipetiolatum, etc., could spend the winter outside, yes, if possible near a wall or eaves to protect them from frosts. They are inside now, just to achieve faster growth.

The idea is to grow edible forest trees for generating nutrition food for the people, consuming very little labor power (ie, targeting social freedom!).

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / fruit ID : Uvaia?
« on: June 27, 2015, 03:31:20 PM »


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Today I received a bag with many "arachichu" fruits from a big (more than 100 years old) tree at La Plata, Argentina (http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=16317.0)








Most of them were full of fungi in the skin because of the trip to my city (and the closed nylon bag), overripe, even with some worms, so I almost could not taste them... just tried some white pulp I found into a small fruit,










and it was good, sweet and strong (a rare taste that can remind me of guava leaves or pine), I would not say it's great, just good (I do not like the smell, but the taste is good). It annoys me the sticky thing in the pulp, maybe it's just like the "mucosa" of annona mucosa? . I never tried a biribá.



Low pulp to seed ratio, big seeds, sticky pulp, so it's not a fruit for anyone, but I think we could use them as rootstock for biribá -annona mucosa-, as it should be hardy to hard freezes, and that's very good news, because if the biriba is a great fruit, the only way to grow it in my region would be using rootstock resistant to -6º C frosts.

I saved some seeds





Leaves to help you ID this species:








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Hi, two seeds sprouted (planted on may 6) from that only fantastic fruit I tasted and are doing fine, 8 cm tall, but just 6 leaves so far... very small trees for now, so they are into the house (we are almost in winter) in mini-greenhouses (LED light) at min 18ºC, max 24ºC, with bad/low light (I cant do it better here)... we have now a nice greenhouse, but much cooler at night: maybe 3ºC... or near the stove: 10ºC...
a lot of sun in the day, and 31ºC max

I have a doubt: should I put them into the greenhouse now so they can grow faster, or will they burn in the hot sun?

In the past, I entered some small 1 year old red jabos to a greenshouse in the winter and they burned/dried with the sun... maybe it was the hot sun of the spring...




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Tropical Fruit Discussion / ID: would it be rollinia emarginata?
« on: June 13, 2015, 03:26:21 PM »
Hi, please, see this post:

http://articulo.mercadolibre.com.ar/MLA-556914780-50-semillas-de-rollinia-emarginata-arachichu-_JM#questionText

do you think that the photos are from r. emarginata?

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / wanted: cofee seeds
« on: June 07, 2015, 01:10:46 PM »
Hi, does anyone could send me some cofee seeds? We can exchange, I use to have some interesting myrtaceae, some annonas, and maybe other species from other families.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / please id this myrtaceae fruit tree
« on: May 31, 2015, 06:54:47 PM »
A very nice tree, should be an eugenia or a syzygium








its flavour and texture are very similar to a green apple, and the tree is easy to find as ornamental here, but nobody knows you can eat the fruit (or, at least, I think you can eat it!)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / extraterrestrial forms in the backyard
« on: May 28, 2015, 10:38:36 PM »
I'm no expert on UFOs, or even believe in them until last week I saw that ghostly circle drawn on the bottom of the garden: it could not be the neighbor, he is someone who does not waste time on artistic things ... the only explanation comes from the stars.

Then, the orange tree invading that circle disappeared, and also a small mandarin tree: they were abducted. Later, a plum, an apricot, a cherry, a Guabiju and up a guava were lost ... and they were planted 1km away ... in a weekend house of my parents!

The next day I saw the posts ... or was them monoliths? fixed obsessively on earth: something was taking shape, something no one in our family could never understand. Would it be the rare fruit that attracted extraterrestrial life? It would be a landing strip for hungry aliens seeking chachafruto, Campomanesia lineatifolia, psidium longipetiolatum ???! Were they too common to traditional and native fruit? Is that why the other trees had been abducted?


(circle drawn possibly by a UFO)


Gone are the days, and the circle on the ground also acquired a sandy surface, from a meteorite




Then I had a bad dream, a "tie interceptor" destroyed our home!





It was a frightening picture, I woke up restless at night: I slept very little, sick of gastroenteritis.



Yesterday morning, the image of Star Wars ship mysteriously haunted me, I sensed it was not referring to the past, but the near future.

Then, it came the inexplicable, see:




The dreamed forms began to materialize, my wife got nervous, he caught me, and when she went to the yard thought she saw a humanoid figure:



It occurs to me that "he" is a fan of Obi Wan Kenobi, he has a lightsaber in his hands: for sure.



They are equal ...




https://youtu.be/4Acqon0bttQ

We decided not to make contact of any kind, either 3rd or 4th, or anything, lest thing spread them gastroenteritis: an entire alien civilization might succumb, as the indigenous people of the Amazon before the arrival of Europeans.


In any case, if they were extraterrestrials, would be better "let them do"... they may want to share their advanced technology and we could benefit with it, and whether they were lunatics fans of Star Wars, well... will get tired when they realize that the wood and nylon spacecraft, would not fly.

The plan is like this: when they leave the backyard, this ship will be used like a greenhouse, a geodesic dome.



Updated, 05.25.2015, 19: 22 pm: it is dark and cold, they lit a light and continue to work, they are definitely not from "these lands/earth" ...


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It seems a very remarkable species, producing pods as any legume, but with large beans, the size of a pingpong ball or more, very nutritious. I received 5 seeds from Colombia six months ago already germinated in the envelope, and have survived four trees that grow quickly. In three years may bear fruit.

Anyone else on this forum is cultivating this species or knows it?

Photos from other websites:







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Tropical Fruit Discussion / please ID this jaboticabas
« on: May 06, 2015, 10:13:33 AM »
They should be 7 years old, and 80cm tall.

2 years ago I purchased to the same seller and Adam S. told me they were sabara (myrciaria jaboticaba), I think these ones are the same... but now we have another data: a fruit of them!

This fruit is hard for now (it does not gives to the touch), and I think it should turn 100% black... dont you think? The mother plant of the fruit is older than mines and it's planted in the house of the seller, she said it is flowering and fruiting now (autumn) at Buenos Aires.





























These jabos came from Paraguay.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / please id this jaboticaba
« on: April 29, 2015, 09:29:17 PM »


it should be Sabara as the person who sells them used to had sabara...

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / sete capotes season
« on: March 04, 2015, 12:08:16 PM »
Hi, this is the second time this 2m tall tree (maybe 5 or 6 years old) is giving a few fruits... the last year I just tried one of them, now I have 3 and there are some more on the tree that seem to be ripening in 1 to 2 months from now.

It is flowering all the time: very long fruiting season from february till june maybe






It's hard to tell when are they ripe enought, because they are green, has no smell and are hard to the touch... but when the skin is a bit yellow or when they fell of the tree, you can know that something good is happening










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Tropical Fruit Discussion / anacahuita first taste
« on: February 23, 2015, 10:22:16 AM »
Hi, this is a super rare native fruit tree from Argentina, Brasil, Paraguay, Uruguay




I tried a red fruit of anacahuita (BLEPHAROCALYX SALICIFOLIUS) for the first time and has been a good, intense, very sweet and bitter surprise at the same time... as a menthol candy mixed with orange... but in fact I didnt found it similar to anything.

The only problem is that they are very small fruits, only 0.5cm, I think in future crops next year could be a bit bigger (wikipedia says 1cm), as the tree is in a pot with little fertile and highly compacted soil, also did not have received the best care and irrigation was insufficient.

Anyway, I know it is a small fruit and that's something that bothers some people, but it really is very tasty and unique, with lots of personality.

An unripe fruit and a seed:




More info:
http://jardin-nativo.blogspot.com.ar/2013/04/anacahuita-blepharocalyx-salicifolius.html
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blepharocalyx_salicifolius

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / eugenia repanda!
« on: January 26, 2015, 11:19:54 PM »
The eugenia repanda (pitanga-jambo or ñangapiré negro) are ripening now, the last year I could try just 2 of them, but now half of the plants produced fruits (at different times, there are even some of them with flowers and fruits)... they should be black when ripe, but I tasted 2 red unripe ones and they were very good!!!, like a bing cherry (very different taste to e. uniflora -and I love unifloras- ).

The most interesting feature to me is that they can fruit in full shade.

If you like acid, small (1 to 1.5 cm) and/or myrtaceae fruits, you must have it :-D








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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Are these lembu (wax apple, rose apple) ripe?
« on: January 26, 2015, 07:31:28 PM »
Do not yield to the touch, are tough, I imagine they are not ripe, no?

The guy who tried them said they have little flavor now...




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Hello, the organic store in my town got jack fruit! so I'm very excited ... but do not know if it is ripe or not, how could I  know it?

On the other hand, It released some latex and it is very very sticky: what is the best way to clean the latex of your hands? alcohol? Fruit should be opened wearing gloves? is it the latex too toxic ?









It weighs 15 lbs (6.7 kilos)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Is it a fruit fly?
« on: January 14, 2015, 09:58:16 AM »
is this a fruit fly over the uvaia? in that case, do you know what species is it?








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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / guabiju season
« on: January 05, 2015, 08:02:26 AM »
Hi all

Guabijus are ripening ok and they are tasty now (you should wait 2 or 3 days since they are black and you think "they are ripe enought"... but wait 2 or 3 days for full flavour)




I prefer to sell seeds, because since 2014 the customs in Argentina seem to get 50% of packages you mail here... so... if you want to buy some seeds:

Guabiju (myrcianthes pungens) (january 2015)
25 seeds 60 USD
50 seeds 100 USD
100 seeds 180 USD
200 seeds 340 USD

Shipping cost: 10 to 15 USD





More info:

http://tropicalfruitseeds.com/guabiju-myrcianthes-pungens/

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / uvaia turning orange: when should I harvest it?
« on: December 27, 2014, 08:39:18 AM »
Hello,

Today it started to turn orange... I think I should wait for a week or so... we will have very hot days here, in the start of the summer.

do you know if it should give a bit?



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / uvaia fruiting for the first time!
« on: December 15, 2014, 01:20:43 PM »





Had not seen this fruit until today, which went to water the plant and see if there were newly fruits on the last flowers ... but this larger fruit is of an earlier flowering of about 1 or 2 months ago, is the only current fruit from that past bloom ... fruits that are taking shape now are smaller, of course.






I hope to try it for the first time soon (maybe 2 months?)!


They are pear shaped and I dont know if would be the acid or the sweet type...

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / ID, red fruit, pink flowers
« on: November 25, 2014, 10:47:46 PM »









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Tropical Fruit Discussion / pitangatuba
« on: November 20, 2014, 04:37:56 PM »
I thought it was dead!

I received the plant in winter, 15cm tall...  the new growth dried, it started to loose some leaves... then all of them... then in the spring it didnt sprouted! so, I cut a piece of trunk and it was not green..... so I thought it was dead!

Today I pulled the tree because I would liked to sow some other seed in that pot and...




I saw with astonishment that there were branches sprouting under the soil!, one having leaves under the earth: how strange .. anyone has seen this behavior?

what surprises me is that the leaves were underground leaves ... what sense would it make?

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It is a very happy moment for me, 1½ years after sowing in a pot, I planted directly into the ground of the front garden where there are no frosts at all, so I hope to have some fruits in 2 or 3 years, wish me luck!






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Hi, I have several seeds of red eugenia uniflora I'm eating now, I planted many others ... but I will keep a lot of seeds to share later with another people,

what you recommend to keep them? I thought about puting them into ziploc bags in the fridge with sphagnum moss, is that right? (4ºc)

This scientific paper says that can last six months with 20% moisture, but does not clarify if placed in the refrigerator or at room temperature ... (here in my house is hot, 27 ° C)

" The seeds of Eugenia uniflora L. (Myrtaceae) also exhibit short storability, but higher than I. vera, and could be stored for six months under controlled conditions (Barbedo et al., 1998). Among other Eugenia species, E. uniflora seeds are the most tolerant, keeping their germinability with moisture content of 20% (Delgado and Barbedo, 2007)."

Also, I see the sphagnum is somewhat dry... I dont know if I should wet it more...

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