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Tropical Fruit Discussion / sprout to ID: pereskia aculeata?
« on: April 04, 2018, 11:17:17 PM »
Hi, would it be ora-pro-nobis? or just a weed?




thanks...

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The new arazá and guava collection pack (for those that like psidiums!):

The current and future purchase orders will travel with this beautiful sheets with photographs, descriptions and instructions.



Example with seeds:




*  arazá serrano (Psidium longipetiolatum) (NEW march 2018)  Very rare psidium, similar to strawberry guava but hardy to -7 or -8º C, bigger leaves and taller tree.
5 seeds, 10 USD
* Psidium ROBUSTUM (NEW 4 march 2018)  Very rare psidium, it tastes very good, acid and sweet, similar to a mix of pineapple/apple/strawberry guava. Hardy to -3 or -4º C and to 6 months of drought.
5 seeds, 10 USD
* Araçá do cacho (psidium guineense), harvest April 2018. Acid and sweet, hardy to -5º C, it start producing at 1 year and 6 months after sowing.
5 seeds: 6 USD
* Araçá-una / black arazá or purple forest guava (psidium myrtoides), harvest feb/march 2018.
5 seeds: 9 USD
* Lemon guava (psidium cattleianum var lucidum), very nice lemon flavour, not acid, sweet.
20 seeds (USD 4)
* Red Strawberry guava (psidium cattleianum var sabine)
20 seeds (USD 4)
* feijoa (acca sellowiana), frost hardy to -12º C, very nice variety, super sweet and tasty.
10 seeds: 5 USD
* Tropical guava (psidium guajava) pink/yellow variety, frost hardy to -4.4º C, sweet.
20 seeds (USD 8  )


Total in seeds: USD 56
Shipping cost: USD 17

Total USD 73

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I am happy to announce a new design for the sale of guavas and arazá (dry seeds), all of them taste very good. The current and future purchase orders will travel with this beautiful sheets with photographs, descriptions and instructions.



There are still 1 or 2 months left to stock psidium australe, but the rest of very rare psidiums and also the most common ones can be ordered right now.

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The first "Araçá campestre" (psidium australe) just ripened, the others could take 1 to 3 months more... there were just 7 seeds and this is my favourite arazá in terms of taste, similar flavour to psidium robustum. I would say it smells and tastes like pineapple/caramel. Hardy to -5º C or maybe -6º C, it likes irrigation very much but does not tolerate flooding. It bears fruit in 2 to 3 years in pots.

* Araçá campestre (psidium australe var. argenteum or  var. australe), very rare, tastes and smells like pineapple/caramel
7 seeds: USD 15 (SOLD 29 march 2018)
10 seeds:  USD 18 (wait some weeks)
20 seeds:  USD 34 (wait some months)
















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Those are not stamens. They are female flowers. Look at some of the previous pics on the forum.

I think you are right: the base of the flower is wider.

I just hope my other papayas will be male of herma and will pollinate this one... so I can get seeds to...

I want to know this: suppose this papaya's mother tree was very good: would it make sense to make it fruit even with female flowers at least to get some seeds and keep sowing? or the fruit and the seeds will keep the original mother tree quality of the fruit just only if it produces hermafrodite flowers and I collect just that?

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I have several females bearing huge fruit now, I read online females canbe sweeter.

Guess wait and see.  Saw a guy at the ag. university here grafting papaya  hermie onto seedstock papayas, couldnt help but think what a hige waste of time.

Maybe I dont know anythimg :)

I also have a male near my females, so pollinating females not an issue.  My females are bearing larger fruit tham my hermies now, but could be other factors.

Ok, thanks, so I must wait a year till my other 50cm tall papaya flower, right?

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Female

ok, but... Does not have the stamens? then it will bear fruit but it will be small, would it have seeds? worth it?

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I am tasting "psidium guineense" for the second time after 2 years. I think that the Brazilians call it "araza do campo". The taste was good: acid and sweet, even if the plant is in a pot and receives a few ours of sun, it measures just 30 or 40 cm tall. I was surprised by the good size compared to previous years and that it was sweeter than I remembered. It is a lemony flavor that I would compare with the yellow arazá (p. cattleianum var lucidum) with a perfume similar to the guavas (softer) and it also reminded me of the big arazá (arazá açú) or psidium robustum.

The main advantage of this fruit tree is its precocity: it begins to produce just 1 year and a half after sowing. "This species occurs in the Caatinga biome as a wild fruit that has broad utility and can generate income" (http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S2317-15372015000400214)









* Araçá do cacho (psidium guineense), harvest April 2018. Acid and sweet, hardy to -5º C, it start producing at 1 year and 6 months after sowing.

5 seeds: 6 USD
10 seeds: 10 USD
20 seeds: 18 USD
40 seeds: 34 USD
80 seeds: 66 USD

(Araçá de cacho, Araçá do Campo, Araçá de Anta, Araçá da praia e Araçá morango)


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Hi, I received seeds from Hawaii 4 years ago, from Micah.

I cant contact him

do you think it could be hermaphrodite? or we couldnt know it just by watching the photos?










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We are harvesting the last batch of eugenia repanda, and I have many fresh psidiums,

In order from highest to lowest in rarity, this is the current list:

p. robustum
p. longipetiolatum
p. myrtoides
p. cattleianum red or yellow
p. guajava

I am harvesting sete capotes, guaviyú, anacahuita and the first myrcianthes fragans fruits

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: fruit fly and jaboticaba?
« on: March 26, 2018, 09:38:03 PM »
Have a bearing tree for about 14 years and in that time have removed the loquat and guava due to wormy fruit.  I have moved the Jabo to build a porch and recently  topped it without any bug problems.  Not a single worm, knock on wood.

Impossible to get a loquat or guava in the area due to fruit flys without poisons or labor intensive methods.

Jabo is a tasty choice without all that.

Thanks to all of you, I planted many jaboticabas under the other fruit trees and, If I cant stop the fruit fly 100% using traps, spinosad (to try this year) and so on, I will have mostly jaboticabas in the garden...

The traps worked very good this season (3 or 4 for every tree), for instance the strawberry guava was full infected but, thanks to the traps, I didnt got any worm on eugenia repanda, sete capotes and others. Now I ate the first fruit fly free guavas and I hope I can still be eating more clean fruit in the next weeks...

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: fruit fly and jaboticaba?
« on: March 25, 2018, 09:58:48 AM »
Here it seems to say that the infestation is very low on jaboticabas

http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S0103-84782002000600014

but maybe because they prefer to infect other  species near jaboticabas

"A ausência de infestação de mosca-das-frutas nos frutos de jabuticaba foi um fato inesperado no presente estudo e talvez seja reflexo da frutificação fora de época desta frutífera. Supõe-se, neste caso, que as moscas-das-frutas, uma vez concentradas em determinados hospedeiros em frutificação, não teriam necessidade de migrar para explorar outros; e em princípio, este é o fundamento da proposição da cultura armadilha (ALUJA et al., 1997)."

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / fruit fly and jaboticaba?
« on: March 25, 2018, 09:09:58 AM »
Hi, some months ago Adam S. wrote that jaboticabas are not affected by fruit fly because of the thick skin

So I planted many of them (I would did it anyway! I love the plants and the taste of the fruits) thinking I will eat any fruit without worms in the future

So I ask another jaboticaba growers here: did you ever saw a worm into a jaboticaba fruit?

for sure different species or varieties will be more or less resistant...

look at this

https://books.google.com.ar/books?id=u3lwAgAAQBAJ&pg=PA265&lpg=PA265&dq=ceratitis+capitata+jaboticaba&source=bl&ots=lebJzLJ7f1&sig=wxE1RKyCq8fA60XUi8xLIuiEcv8&hl=es&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiD_raSxIfaAhUMgZAKHdxYDccQ6AEIRzAD#v=onepage&q=ceratitis%20capitata%20jaboticaba&f=false


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: annonas to ID!
« on: March 25, 2018, 09:07:10 AM »
Have you joined the Annonaceae group on Facebook?  Some professional botanists, and over 1,000 hobbyists participate.

I will try!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: annonas to ID!
« on: March 23, 2018, 10:22:37 PM »
Same size for me too. It'll get larger if you have a small phone that resizes the initial pic.

but, what do you think about the species?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: annonas to ID!
« on: March 23, 2018, 04:39:23 PM »
Tiny picture. You have better?

not for now...

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / annonas to ID!
« on: March 23, 2018, 04:32:17 PM »
Hi, can you believe that, at Misiones they call CHIRIMOYA to the Biribá?




the other fruits seem to be atemoya, araticú (maybe rollinia sylvatica) and so on... the woman said that the araticú she likes it more than biribá...

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Yesterday I sent 6 mails, I will send 2 more in the next days

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Do you think it would fruit in the tropics? one person from Costa Rica is interested on it...

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this is becoming one of my favourites fruits: it has personality and the pulp is firmer than the other arazás
Yes, they are really really good! And this trees give a lot of fruit! :P

When Miguel-pt published about it some years ago, I got the idea that it was like just another red strawberry guava or so, he wrote that the taste was similar or maybe better. I love strawberry guava and I would say the same as Miguel (for most people, maybe the taste is in the same level), but now I like it more and it has greater comercial potential as the fruit is not so perisheable. All the arazá serrano fruits that I tasted were very good, but not all the strawberry guava tasted that good.


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We are having a late harvest of guabiju! the trees resisted a very hard drought so the fruits are small this year but very juicy and sweet. Normal fruits would be 2 to 3cm diameter. This variety is early bearing (4 years old)










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this is becoming one of my favourites fruits: it has personality and the pulp is firmer than the other arazás

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Yes, that is a great idea. But it also may be a good experiment to dry a few seeds at the same time and rehydrate them after a month. I don’t really understand what makes them germinate. I tried 3 times to germinate a batch of five to ten seeds of these. Fresh seeds in a small container with bottom heat, like I germinate all Myrtaceae. But twice nothing came up and the last time it took them 2 to 4 months for three to germinate, of which two died.
It is an interesting Campomanesia because it grows in colder climates with some sort of winter, so I started wondering wether it needs a small cool period, or even to be dried and rehydrated to start germinating. If you could do a small experiment with three different batches of seeds - if you have enough seeds, that would be very helpful to figure this out.

Feijoa and Ugni - the other coldhardy Myrtaceae all tolerate to be dried and rehydrated. But they do sprout better when just freshly sown.

Enjoy the fruits!


I am tempted to sow your 10 sete capotes seeds now on vermiculite... if you want to, I can send you 5 dry seeds and 5 wet seeds...

pm

I will send tomorrow!

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By the way: I am enjoying the taste of anacahuita, even if the fruits are very smal, it has a mentol taste, sweet, strong, spicy: rare but nice.

myrcianthes cisplatensis fruited too but the fruits are very small and makes almost no sense, nice tree, vigorous growth anyway. Myrcianthes fragrans is fruiting for the first time, if anyone want seeds from these species, just tell me.

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And i forgot it's very hardy. My tree resisted totally to my worst winter temp of -6.5C!

great, so we can confirm it will survive to -7º C or -8º C, dont you think?

no sign of damage?

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