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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: First jaboticaba flower buds??????
« on: February 01, 2018, 05:19:58 PM »
No, it is similar,
But smell of leaves is different!
this is same tree we tried  figure out if paulista or coronata?

you have flowers coming right?

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I sent 4 mails today, Ukrania, USA, Korea, Australia.

I am harvesting new uvaias now and watching the psidium guyanense and psidium eugeniaefolia getting ripe; for eugenia repanda we should wait till the end of feb. There will be a few natal plum and maybe rollinia sylvatica too and other species (orange tamarillo, many guavas, psidium australe and others).

Cedar bar cherries are still producing.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: New jaboticabas, 1.5m, 5 feet tall
« on: January 31, 2018, 07:14:50 PM »
now i see more pics i hadn't seen before, i guess i agree with Helton, it looks more like coronata than pualista,,, congrats on your flowers

Ah,ok, maybe wild coronata... we dont have flowers yet :-S

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Feijoa flowering (greenhouse)
« on: January 31, 2018, 07:13:31 PM »
From what I've seen, Feijoa seems to flower on a seasonal basis (May is often cited as a flowering time start).  Does anyone know how flowering behavior would be in a greenhouse environment?  Does feijoa need a cold period, or a low light period, or something else?  Or does it just flower whenever it feels like it if it never gets cold?  Also, how long are the fruit good off the tree?

Hi, the only thing I know is that they should need a cold period, they are native from the mountains of south Brazil. Off the tree... 2 or 3 days

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: First jaboticaba flower buds??????
« on: January 30, 2018, 11:12:53 PM »
I agree, they are amazing trees even if they never flower of fruit. Some weeks ago a collector who is an agronomist from Misiones (land of jaboticabas!) told me that the jaboticabas have a phenomenon called "cauliflorus", and it is assumed that the flower buds are in the trunk months or years before opening ... but I find it very incredible ... so what species is your jaboticaba? (coronata, sabará?) age? very nice

I took a look at mine, it has similar bumps on the trunk and larger branches, it has yet to bloom also, but it doing very well.  I think it's practically doubled in size over the last year or 9 months.

Maybe they are future buds, once the tree is ready??  I guess we'll see.  I do love my Jab, even if it never blooms, it's just such a gorgeous tree, it reminds me of a very large bonsai tree, if there could be such.

Here is a pic of my Jab. In the back left is a poor little Satsuma orange tree (I know it's technically a tangerine).  I had to cage it off as the deer kept eating every single flush of new growth it had, almost killed it. 



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: First jaboticaba flower buds??????
« on: January 30, 2018, 12:37:04 PM »
COULD THEY BE SO SLOW!??



one month later and the supposed flower buds are just like that!

Sooo?  Buds or no buds?


I dont know, they never open!  :o

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Hello. I am curious. Did you grow and fruit Albertia Patinoi aka Borojo in Argentina? How easy is it to grow outside it's native climate range?
Cheers.

Hi, no no, I sow many of them yesterday because I received fresh seeds from a friend at Ecuador. I am selling the rest of them. I think this species would be fine just in the tropics. But I will try to keep them warm into my house by the winter (as I do with biribá, guanabana, jackfruit and others).

Interested in arranging a purchase. I can't see an option to inbox you. Can you send me a PM please.

PM sent, we can use mail or whatsapp too (54 2364544750).

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* acid uvaia (eugenia sp.)

3 to 4cm diameter, rough skin pear shaped fruits, The perfume of the flowers is one of the best I know (along with citrus flowers and sete capotes), good for mermelades, icecreams, jams, etc.



3 seeds --> USD 7
5 seeds --> USD 11
10 seeds --> USD 20


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Hello. I am curious. Did you grow and fruit Albertia Patinoi aka Borojo in Argentina? How easy is it to grow outside it's native climate range?
Cheers.

Hi, no no, I sow many of them yesterday because I received fresh seeds from a friend at Ecuador. I am selling the rest of them. I think this species would be fine just in the tropics. But I will try to keep them warm into my house by the winter (as I do with biribá, guanabana, jackfruit and others).

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: New jaboticabas, 1.5m, 5 feet tall
« on: January 28, 2018, 10:51:31 PM »
Ok! it seems to be risky but I could try... I was thinking to just drip irrigate them during the frosts... and there is a swimming pool near the plantation, so maybe frosts will not be hard there...

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New seeds and species, fresh janyuary 2018 harvest, please let me know if you are interested in cocona (solanum sessilimflorum), averrhoa bilimbi, tamarindus indica, dovyalis hebecarpa, physalis peruviana or solanum quitoense and I will put a price for them too.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: New jaboticabas, 1.5m, 5 feet tall
« on: January 28, 2018, 04:55:06 AM »
Thanks Adam, it would be very nice if they can get 25º F (-4º C) and survive in a protected place where colds can get 20º F (-6.6º C), under other bushes and with automatic watering. We planted one of them in that place now and hope that will be fine this winter... maybe will put an anti frost blanket

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: I made an uvaia mermelade
« on: January 27, 2018, 01:05:35 PM »
Maybe these are sweet ubajays?  the uvaia leaf looks weird, I dont know

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: New jaboticabas, 1.5m, 5 feet tall
« on: January 26, 2018, 05:17:42 PM »







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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Most cold hardy Macadamia.-
« on: January 26, 2018, 03:47:14 PM »
Hi, I planted 2 macadamias (3 feet tall) at my parents weekend house and they are suffering a lot: could it be because the high wind, too much sun and/or lack of irrigation?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: New jaboticabas, 1.5m, 5 feet tall
« on: January 26, 2018, 03:44:37 PM »








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Hi, grafting doesnt seem to be too difficult, but I dont use to grow trees from grafting but seeds. I had a reticulata but died, but a friend has a 1.5m tall from those seeds... he tought the fruit will not be good and now I thank you for the report, congrats!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: I made an uvaia mermelade
« on: January 26, 2018, 01:49:03 PM »
more ubajays:










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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: I made an uvaia mermelade
« on: January 26, 2018, 12:28:51 PM »
I will take some more pictures of the leaves up close.

I have two different types of Eugenia myrcianthes, one of which is a seedling of the tree described in this article. https://www.smgrowers.com/info/Eugenia_myrcianthesOrpet.asp

Cool article, but they didnt said nothing about smell and flavour, do you know how does it tastes? does it smells "bad" or to acid? That ubajay looks pretty, mines are just like that too but, for now, only the acid types beared fruits.




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Adam: This photo of yours looks very similar to my ubajay (hexachlamis edulis)

http://postimg.org/image/wqhvldjq1/
("Seedling E. pyriformis (large leaf type, not sure of the proper varietal name)")


i gave that tree to a friend, (I wish I would have kept one...I had two large trees...but sold the last one).

my friends tree actually fruited...but the only time I was there to get a fruit, it was under ripe...I ate it anyway, and I could imagine it has a wonderful flavor if properly ripened...much like Eugenia stipitata, just not as intensely sour.

this species is definitely not the same as Eugenia myrcianthes (hexachlamis edulis)!

I have eaten both fruits, and have seen both trees side by side....totally different.


Ok, but it looks so different to uvaia and so similar to ubajay, maybe it is another unknown species?

Here at Argentina many collectors often confuse between ubajay and uvaia

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: I made an uvaia mermelade
« on: January 26, 2018, 09:32:15 AM »
this one from Adam should be ubajay

http://postimg.org/image/wqhvldjq1/

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: I made an uvaia mermelade
« on: January 25, 2018, 10:09:13 PM »
It hasn't fruited or flowered yet so we have only the leaves to go on. I have a couple variations of E. myrcianthes (aka Hexachlamys edulis) and they look very different from this plant. Eugenia is such a mysterious and confusing genus.

My other Eugenia pyriformis plants (sourced from the highly reputable Miguel.pt) have tiny leaves and look totally different.

:)

All I can say is that uvaia is the most ubajay looking one! But it could be uvaia, being that there are so much variations of them. Maybe we can smell crushed leaves?

What about if you crush the leaves of ubajay and smell them and then you do that with this uvaia and with the other uvaias?

For instance, my ubajay leaves smell is soft... maybe similar to grass, but my uvaia leaves smell is stronger and "acid", myrtaceae smell...

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: I made an uvaia mermelade
« on: January 25, 2018, 06:26:15 PM »
Your plant looks very different from all the Uvaia’s I have, Joe. But mine are all still a bit smaller. To me your plant looks more like my Ubajai.
In an old post Adam from Flying Fox Fruits also has pictures from an Uvaia with the same broad leaves with veins in them. Maybe he could tell you for sure.

I agree, it looks like ubajay (eugenia myrcianthes)... do you have photos of the fruits? what about the taste and the smell?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: I made an uvaia mermelade
« on: January 25, 2018, 06:21:18 PM »
That looks delicious!

Do you find a lot of variability in the taste, size and sweetness of all your Uvaia’s?

Hi, thanks, not too much, this year I realised I have 2 species or 2 varieties (maybe more but one of them didnt fruited yet): one of them is sweet/acid and the other one is acid. Maybe both are pyriformis but I dont know. The sweet one could be an hybrid of pyriformis x lutescens. The acid one has rough skin, but I know there are sweet uvaias with rough skin too.

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I know that you have trees from a lot of different sources and I was wondering how variable the different fruits and flavors are.

Very variable, I read that at Brazil they say they can get 30 varieties or so...

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