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So please, do me favor; the next time you want to express an opinion relating to a scientific principle, or matter--that is, one that has a provable, falsifiable, objective reality in the material universe, you could at least make the effort to to become at least quasi-scientifically literate. If you don't understand the how, you shouldn't even be thinking about the why.  Consider first that you might not even know what you don't know.

The good news......any forum member or I can spout off at anytime without "doing you the favor" of doing or knowing anything.  My post was not meant to be a scientific treatise and you are free to attack the details as you have, so impressively.  The only thing more impressive is your self absorption and proclivity to try to impress everyone with your extensive, all encompassing knowledge and vocabulary.  Sprinkle in some personal attacks and some condescension and voila.......Starling1. 

I am quite sure that I will never be as great an attorney or legal scholar as you may one day be.  That is if you ever become either. I suggest you take some time to get to know two of my "H" friends.  They would be "humble" and "humility."  They will serve you well in your future endeavors. All the best to you......always.

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*snort*
 lol don't hold your breath, Mr. Hausman.

Despite my 35+ years of liability litigation experience, which has included extensive product liability case handling and my AV peer rating from Martindale Hubbell, if my holding my breath waiting for a Monsanto job offer is your only concern, you have nothing to worry about.  I am glad I was able to provide you with a hearty, well meant *snort*.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lemon Zest Skin Coloration
« on: June 27, 2015, 11:04:38 PM »
Did a google search of the forum, didn't come up with anything.  Do you remember the thread name?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Lemon Zest Skin Coloration
« on: June 27, 2015, 09:31:05 PM »
Most of the Lemon Zest mangoes I have seen have been uniformly golden yellow in color.  However, one fruit I had on one of my trees had an unusual green coloration which I had never seen on any mango before.  Has anyone seen this?  The eating quality of the fruit seemed unaffected by the unusual skin color.




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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Malay apple
« on: June 27, 2015, 07:20:24 PM »
Does anyone know what par for the course is?

I have this information at home in my notes from my Sub Tropical Fruit Course. I'll give you that answer shortly.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Malay apple
« on: June 27, 2015, 07:18:14 PM »
can't you just graft mature budwood onto it to reduce time to fruition?

Grafting would, for sure, shorten the fruiting time

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Harry...

have you thought about joining the legal team at monsanto?

you've got your work cut out.

If you're interested send a PM to JCaldeira, I bet he has a contact there.

Just because I don't see inherent evil in the letters GMO, doesn't mean I want to work for Monsanto.  Although, I guess if they wished to pay me to give them legal advice, I would consider employment with them or any other company.  Its the American way, you know. Companies that lose their way putting profit ahead of safety to the detriment of their customers health are generally only changed by two possible groups of people.  The first are the people they injure through the actions of those injured person's lawyers or through the lawyers who work for the company who warn the company that not changing their actions is going to be too costly to the company in the future because of the lawyers, previously mentioned, suing them. Capitalism, seeking to maximize profits, with lawyers as watchdogs (some would say vultures), seems to be the way our system works.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Malay apple
« on: June 27, 2015, 01:30:10 PM »
Harry,

Does your tree make fruit and if so how long did it take from seed to fruit?

My tree is renowned for several things.  Not all of these things are good.  First, my tree is a seedling that I planted probably in 1995. My tree has the largest leaves on any tree of its kind that I have ever seen.  Unfortunately, the fruits are the smallest of any tree of its kind that I have ever seen.  It took my tree over 20 years to set its first fruit. My tree blooms but the blooming is not prolific like I have seen some trees bloom.  So fruit set has been very light.  The fruits are red and are pretty tasty but are subject to the same black beetle attacks that our wax jambu suffer.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Reviews
« on: June 27, 2015, 12:58:41 PM »
Maha Chanok - Mango Review



Two years ago I bought a Maha Chanok tree from Excalibur Fruit Trees in Lake Worth, FL, and planted it. Yesterday I finally got to taste one. It's a beautiful fruit: phallic and curvy, yellow with the rosy blush of a chinook salmon, sparsely dotted with little black speckles ringed in hot neon pink. It has a pungent, intoxicating scent... like smelling a ripe Edward mango held by a sweaty man wearing cologne which mostly covers up his body odor.  When cut, the inside smelled "tart" and berry-like.

As for the flavor, it's very hard to describe. But l'll try:

There's a measured sweetness with a subacidic undertone like homemade cranberry sauce. The secondary layer of flavors is suave... sort of mellow like a Valencia Pride, smooth like a cantaloupe, and sunny like a tangelo. Some Nam Doc Mai-like honey taste. Classical mango flavors were present throughout and especially noticed near the thin seed. Underneath the skin is cola syrup -- subtle cinnamon-vanilla notes which give it a delicately spicy finish. The cola flavor was especially concentrated throughout the upper half inch of the mango, just below the stem ;D.   No resin taste.

Eating the second half, which I let ripen for several hours more, the flesh was softer. There was intense sweetness and a rich, creamy classical mango flavor. The tartness and subtle flavors were less noticeable.

Because of its sexy looks & remarkable scent, the uniqueness of the flavor profile, and the overall taste quality... my first impression of Maha Chanok is it that of an "outstanding" top tier mango. It's probably the best mango I have ever tasted.

I'd like to thank Harry Hausman and Richard Wilson who championed this mango and inspired me to plant it. These guys did extensive research and made a killer selection. I can now survive and even look forward to these muggy South Florida summers, so as long as the Maha Chanok tree blooms in my backyard. If the fruit gets better as the tree matures, I will be even happier than I am now.    :) :D ;D


I found your review thoroughly entertaining.  I appreciate your acknowledging me with thanks.  My response......I did nothing that any mango loving collector wouldn't have done in the same situation. 

I was fortunate to get my first Maha experience back in the mid-1990's and I have been singing its praises ever since.  My only regret was that I didn't take the opportunity to do my own grafting production and sales.  I missed a golden opportunity to make a few extra bucks.

One thing about your review that I did want to comment about. Your description of the "fragrance" of the mango.....or I guess some would say, "the smell" is not something that I have detected.  Our now banned forum member in Thailand, Bangkok, always said that the true Maha Chanok had "a smell."  Actually, I think he said that it stunk.  I have never expereinced this in the fruits I have eaten.  So, I am wondering if I have an inefective smeller or if you guys are having an olfactory hallucination.   ???

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genetic modification = molestation and perversion of mother nature

it's profitable, but so is a meth lab.

As in most things, I tend not take extreme views regarding the concept of GMO.  I know that there is the potential for abuse and negative results based upon greed and profit motivation......the quick fix answer which does not have enough information or foresight to make something safe has already been shown to be a concern with projects already in production.  However, the idea that the letters GMO automatically conjure up something akin to molestation or perversion seems a bit over the top. I would equate this type of thinking with the idea that man shouldn't fly because nature didn't give him wings or that man shouldn't develop antibiotics because nature intended us to get sick and possibly die......its just too bad.....get sick and die.

The reality is, at least in my view,  that Nature has no great wisdom.  It survives and flourishes as the result of major trials and errors.  Countless species and their DNA have been lost forever without any intervention from man over the millenia. Nature randomly mutates DNA in reproduction.  The most adaptable DNA survives and passes on its DNA to its progeny.  The less adaptable, less successful DNA formulations die out naturally and their DNA dies with them.  To ascribe intelligence to this natural process and proclaim its superiority to man's potential scientific intervention I think fails to consider all of the failures and defects that Nature has created and continues to create. There are probably even some natural random genetic mutations that are due to exposure to natural chemical compounds and/or radiation that have absolutely nothing to do with man and his corruption of nature.

When man uses cross breeding and hybridization he is interfering with the natural process.  It is not quite gene splicing or causing genetic material to turn off or on, but it is one step in that direction.  We have no problem with doing this non-natural cross breeding of animals or plants but it is a major ethical issue if anyone says,  "hey, let's try it with humans."

So before we just proclaim GMO of the devil, pause should be taken to consider its potential benefits. Close attention has to be paid to what is being modified and the potential negative effects of any such modification. There will be errors made but the potential for speeding up the beneficial process that man has tried to perfect in hybridization is virtually limitless with scientifically engineering changes in the natural world. This process needs to be transparent and appropriate labeling of products that have been modified are musts.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is graham mango good?
« on: June 24, 2015, 08:04:54 PM »
Yes Graham is really good...first year my tree produced a good amount. Fantastic mango with a very unique taste . I don't remember much about Graham back in the islands, so this is newish to me. Really really good. Taste nothing like Julie by the way





Well I'm not saying that it tastes exactly like Julie but to say that it tastes nothing like Julie I do not feel is accurate. At least to my comparative tastings?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Little update from Thailand
« on: June 24, 2015, 06:12:06 AM »
I have enjoyed the updates. Thanks for taking the time to share  your horticultural adventures/endeavors.  Are planning on sending anything back for the greenhouse?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Kesar Mango
« on: June 23, 2015, 02:15:33 PM »
Why not? What if we renamed it Mumbai? Seriously. ...why do you say that?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Kesar Mango
« on: June 23, 2015, 08:55:45 AM »
Had my first home grown Kesar mango.  I have been pleasantly surprised with the growth habit of the tree






Can you expand on this please?


The growth seems to be not overly vigorous yet healthy, well shaped without pruning with no disease, insect, or fungal issues.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Kesar Mango
« on: June 22, 2015, 09:34:38 PM »
Had my first home grown Kesar mango.  I have been pleasantly surprised with the growth habit of the tree and its disease resistance in regard to producing a nice crop of very clean looking fruit without any need to spray.  I found the eating quality to be excellent. The flavor profile is definitely classic Indian.  It has a very rich taste with good complexity and is at the same time, very sweet.






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Sounds like annona Montana is your tree based upon your stated criteria.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Coconut Cream mango - hot or not?
« on: June 22, 2015, 12:02:53 PM »
For me the jury is still very much out. I have not had enough CC's. At this point I have not been impressed with the fruits I have tried and the growth habit and productivity seem, initially at least,  to be possibly suspect. This is definitely a stay tuned situation.

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Now I am beginning to wonder about your tastes.  Hahahahaha

And back at you!  :) I have never encountered anything Pickeringesque  about BKM.

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I recall Walter telling me to cut a sliver out of the mango and see if it's ripe...if it isn't put it in a container and let it ripen more.  The question I have is: can a cut mango in a container ripen properly at room temperature even if it has been cut into prior (in your experience)


Maybe I am doing something wrong but I have never been successful in getting a mango to ripen fullly to peak eating quality. ....container or otherwise. I'm always disappointed with the post cutting ripening.  And ants and fruit flies get drawn to the cut fruits as well as an unpleasant bonus.

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Quote from: bsbullie link=topic=16496.msg209201#msg209201
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If you like the Sia Thong, consider planting a Mahachanok or Brahm Kai Meu.

While I highly recommend considering Mahachanok, Brahm Kai Meu does not get anywhere near such an endosement. I have two trees (only one planted on purpose). They are prolific  and consistent fruit producers. For me, the eating quality is Fair  to Good on the Fairchild scale while Sia Tong, for me is Good to Excellent on the same scale. Sia Tong is an attractive golden color when ripe while BKM stays very green. BKM has deep orange flesh while ST has bright yellow flesh. I like the flavor of ST much better than BKM. I can sell all the STS I can produce while I can't give away the BKMS my trees produce.


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Bombay is not a consistent producer from year to year.  For a vary similar raste, larger fruit and better producer, go with the Sunrise.


I have a record crop on my Bombay this year. It does have some degree of variability in crop size. I don't think I would characterize it as being an inconsisbtent producer.......as this sounds like you'll have off and on mangoes.  Bombay seems to always set fruit and in alternating years the crop can be tremendous.  In fact, a number of years ago, my tree had a crop that was so heavy that it broke down all of the large lateral branches from the sheer weight of the fruit. The tree is a very vigorous grower.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: rushed grafting onto large trees?
« on: June 22, 2015, 07:40:06 AM »
Rather than try to top work a tree spontaneously, if I had bud wood that I wanted to preserve, I would graft it on the portion of the large tree that was best suited to accommodate the bud wood you received.  Once that graft took, you would have unlimited material to graft in the future either onto root stock or to top work.

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You probably mean Excel?
no, actually it was Extrema......a curator's choice at Fairchild a,few years back. I believe it was a selection originally from Paraguay.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / HMHausman Office Mango Tasting 6/19/15
« on: June 21, 2015, 08:37:42 PM »
I had the pleasure of a visit to one of my office tastings of a forum member and his family. Spaceoak, his wife and two kids stopped by and we chomped a few mangoes that I collected that morning.  The table looked like this:



I have to do some ID as I didn't write the names.  I'll come back shortly to list what we had to try on Friday.

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Cherimoya and mountain soursop do not exist in the same taste universe. I have eaten a fruit  and i could say it was edible but not enjoyable. This fruit might be a better fit in the projectile category than edible category. I have a tree planted but it is for rootstock and curiosity, not eating. Maybe, one day, I will try to create a hybrid with regular soursop. You might be able to get it to fruit in a pot. You have to have space to waste to put one in the ground.

Regrettably, my experience has been pretty much the same as Brandon's.  This fruit, at least as far as the ones I have tried, fall under the edible but not so eatable classification. I never thought about the projectile qualities of the Mountain Soursop, but I think it would have to be considered a good candidate for inflicting a mess on and around its intended target with considerably more satisfaction for the hurler than the same fruit would bring to a prospective consumer.

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