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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Pavlovsky lemon
« on: March 18, 2018, 07:06:50 AM »
Hi again all,

I read through the most recent USDA-APHIS regulations regarding importation of Citrus sp. seed to the US and it looks like it's still allowed from Europe, including the former CCCP countries.  There are a few paperwork and inspection requirements beyond merely dropping the seeds in the mail.

Does anyone know of a reputable source for seed of the Pavlovsky lemon?  I'm happy to pay the costs incurred, of course. I don't have any citrus material to exchange but I live in an extremely cold part of the US and I can offer W.C. and cultivated seed of many northern North American natives.

Thanks,   Steve H      You can email me directly at:   loneroc1 at gmail dot com.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Lemon re-potting
« on: March 17, 2018, 03:25:02 PM »
Lory,

You are welcome. I thought European type lemons didn't grow well in the tropics. Evidently they do. Or maybe, like the rest of us, you love a challenge!   Steve H

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Lemon re-potting
« on: March 17, 2018, 08:47:40 AM »
Hi Lory,

There are very few horticultural absolutes.  One of them is that potted terrestrial plants should always be stepped up gradually to reach the ultimate desired pot size. A typical  nursery pot sequence would be (in US measurements) 1 gallon, 3 gallon, 5 gallon and so on. A good rule of thumb is to repot into a pot that is three fingerwidths wider than your plant all around the root ball.

The problem with going from a small pot to a much larger pot is that there is a large volume of soil where water stagnates and organic matter decomposes under anaerobic conditions,  producing by-products that are toxic to the roots. Citrus are particularly sensitive to this. The goal is to have all the soil in the container accessible to the plant's roots. (You can plant aquatics such as water lilies directly into a large pot because their roots are adapted to stagnant waterlogged soil.)

Good luck, Steve H

Once you've reached the final sized pot some plants can remain in that pot indefinitely. Some plants do fine when root bound and even prefer it. Bougainvillea comes to mind. You just need to fertilize regularly. However, many woody plants will need to be root pruned at regular intervals to maintain the desired size or to replenish nutrients that have been exhausted. Think bonsai. And citrus, though not all growers are willing to spend a weekend root pruning and repotting a very large citrus tree. Your mileage may vary.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Pavlovsky lemon
« on: March 16, 2018, 07:40:50 PM »
Tee-hee, I guess I should've looked closer.  The funny thing is that I studied Russian in high school and didn't even pick up on it.

Do we have these lemons in the US anywhere? Maybe an old lady in New York whose grandmother carried the lemon seeds in the hem of her skirt grows it?

But seriously, it seems as though Pavlovsky would be an invaluable addition to domestic horticulture. No sunroom, grow lights, or south facing picture window needed.

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Citrus General Discussion / Pavlovsky lemon
« on: March 14, 2018, 09:27:53 AM »
Howdy all,

Has anyone heard of or grown the Pavlovsky lemon?
 
http://exoticfruitplants.eu/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=199
https://rosdim.com/en/details?uid=622

It appears to be a lemon that was selected by residents of several central Russian cities over the course of two centuries specifically for growing in the home. Looks like it's offered by several eastern European nurseries.

Steve H


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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Xie Shan Q
« on: March 11, 2018, 07:34:49 AM »
Thanks for sharing your experience folks. I figured it would be a weeper but I wanted to be sure. Now I know where I'll plant ìt in my greenhouse.  Steve H

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Citrus General Discussion / Xie Shan Q
« on: March 10, 2018, 06:41:13 AM »
Howdy all,

Can any of you Xie Shan growers out there tell me what the tree's natural growth habit is?

Thanks,  Steve H

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Howdy all,

I grow my citrus trees in a US zone 3 greenhouse. Some are in pots. Some are planted directly in the ground. All are on Flying Dragon. I set the low temp for 40°F (4°C). I'd set it lower but my thermostat doesn't allow this. The greenhouse air temps stay in the low forties on cloudy days. I try to keep the air temps below 70°F on sunny days. The soil temps generally stay around 40 for several months in mid winter.

I have never had any issues with leaf drop. None. My fall fruiting mandarins and my Meyer's lemon ripen fine. My only winter ripening trees are too young to fruit, so I can't say whether the low temps would affect their ripening days or fruit quality.

Thanks, Steve H (loneroc1)

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Citrus General Discussion / Finger Limes anyone?
« on: March 07, 2017, 08:40:06 AM »
Howdy all,  I'm looking to add a finger lime to my growing greenhouse citrus collection.  I see a sort of generic green available everywhere on line. Anyone know where I could find named cultivars? (Yeah I know, Oz.)

The clones I see on Australian web sites are of various colours and  degrees of seediness, but they're also clearly described as to shape and size of bush/tree. Narrow and shrubby works for me. Any thoughts?

What about rootstock?  Maybe FD? Or is that going to be too stunted, or even incompatible.

Thanks, Steve H  SW Wisconsin, USA. USDA Zone 3

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