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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 12' greenhouse in san diego
« on: March 31, 2018, 10:44:28 PM »
Wow, did you build your own greenhouse?  I've considered doing the same, particularly after I just lost 6/8 of my Mango trees to our last cold snap.   :'(

I'd recommend vigorous varieties as Mangoes don't grow super well here.  La Verne Nursery is now shipping a few varieties on Manila rootstock.  Haden, Gold Nugget, and Timotayo are available.  Valencia Pride, Glenn, Alphonso are also good choices if you can find them grafted or find Budwood and graft yourself. 

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Cara Cara vs Tarocco ?
« on: March 20, 2018, 11:52:34 PM »
I have both and they are both amazing.  Tarocco is the best tasting blood orange, Moro second best.  Sanguenelli is just too tart for me.  Cara Cara's are super tasty.  I couldn't choose.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: First Frost of the year
« on: February 24, 2018, 10:59:44 AM »
I really didn't want any more damage to my mango trees!





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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: First Frost of the year
« on: February 21, 2018, 11:38:40 PM »
On Tuesday night, where I live in So Cal, it hit 28 deg F for 3 hours (5 hours total below freezing).  Last night, it only hit a low of 30 deg F and was below freezing for 4 hours.  Data from El-USB attached to a Mango tree.  Panicles have all completely wilted.  Leaves have some browning, but otherwise the trees don't look too bad. Posting so others know the cold tolerance of Mangoes.  30 deg F was okay, but 28 for 3 hours was damaging (but not fatal).  My trees are small BTW, all 0-3 years in the ground.  No protection.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: First Frost of the year
« on: February 20, 2018, 09:56:55 PM »
Simon,

I noticed that all of my mango flower panicles were droopy this morning, after the frost.  Does that mean they will die and the trees will likely re-flower?  I haven't had a frost like this for 3 years.  Also, some leaves turned partly brown.

Cyndie

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pairing up mango trees
« on: February 16, 2018, 08:27:46 PM »
I too would LOVE to know how you care for your mango trees to get such amazing growth in CA on turpentine rootstock!?!

I know you mentioned that you bought 7G trees.  Did you let them fruit in the first year after planting?

Please tell us your secrets! 

I've got VP, Glenn, LZ, PPK, Sweet Tart, Phoenix, and Fruit Punch.  I've also got Carrie and Malika, but I think I might need to graft the Carrie and Malika onto my mature Manila and lose the trees on the turpentine.  For me, they just flower too much and don't grow vegetatively (not vigorous enough varieties in my area?).  Will probably replace with Keitt, Haden, and Gold Nugget on Manila rootstock.

Cyndie

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / La Verne Mangoes this Year
« on: January 18, 2018, 10:02:52 PM »
I had my local nursery check with La Verne Nursery to see what mango trees they will be grafting this spring.  It seems they will only have Keitt, Haden, and Gold Nugget (on Manila rootstock).  Can any southern California mango growers suggest which of these is best suited for California (i.e. most vigorous)?  Does anyone know why more common Ca varieties such as Valencia Pride, Alphonso are not being grafted by La Verne this year?

I also think I read that Glenn is a vigorous grower in Ca, and would make a good choice.  What about Kent, is it Vigorous in CA if grown on manila?

Thanks!
Cyndie

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Simon,

Thanks, it should be interesting.  I am considering pulling out the varieties that flower constantly and keeping them in pots for scion wood and planting manila seedlings.  I might also try to plant the same variety on Manila already grafted to see if the rootstock makes a difference. I am determined to be successful growing Mangoes!!

Cyndie

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The only place that I know of that sells Mango trees on Manila rootstock is Mimosa Nursery in Anaheim or LA.  Anyone know of any others?  The problem with Mimosa is not everything is labeled.  I am afraid to buy from them.

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I think it depends on the variety, some are more vigorous than others.  Which varieties did you get?

The varieties growing the best for me are Lemon Merengue, Lemon Zest, Phoenix, and Fruit Punch.  Those varieties are growing well, several vegetative flushes, no flowering, all planted this March.  The varieties that flower repeatedly are Malika, Carrie, Sweet Tart and Nam Doc Mai

Cyndie

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Nam Doc Mai.   2 yrs in the ground. Flowers constantly.  Didn't expect this with NDM as I've seen mature NDM grown pretty close to me.



Valencia Pride.  2 yrs in the ground. Thought I could get away with a small tree since it's known to be a vigorous grower.  Made the mistake on accident of letting this fruit in the first year (Didn't see the fruit until it was too late) and it has been stunted and has grown very slowly as a result.  I hope it will recover.



Well that's it besides a Manila which I am growing and will eventually top work.   I wanted to share so we can all learn from each other to see what Mangoes are growing well in San Diego. I am at 700 ft elevation, 9B. 

Cyndie

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Sweet Tart.  First year in the ground. Has flowered and is growing more slowly than some others.



Fruit Punch.  First year in the ground.  Growing vegetatively pretty well.  No flowering.



Lemon Zest.  First year in the ground.  Growing nicely.  No flowering yet.



Cotton Candy Mango.  First year in the ground. Experienced transplant shock but recovered.  Growing but slowly. 



Carrie Mango.  2 yrs in the ground. Flowers a lot.



Malika Mango.  2 yrs in the ground. Flowers constantly. One of the worst for this reason.



Cyndie



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Here are pictures of my trees.  Some ordered from Florida, some purchased at Champa Nursery, some from Exotica.  All on Turpentine, I believe.

My Phoenix.  First year in the ground, planted in March.  Growing vigorously, no flowering this year.



Ice Cream.  In ground 2 years.  Slow growing as expected.  Has flowered but also grows vegetatively.  Not my worst performer.



Lemon Meringue. My best sized tree.  2 yrs in the ground.  Only grows vegetatively, no flowering so far (which is good).



More coming....

Cyndie

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On turpentine rootstock, FYI. Steve (owner) doesn't think that is a problem.  He says he has several mature mangoes on site, all on turpentine. 

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Quick question- what do you recommend if we already planted the grafted mangoes from Florida (on turpentine) in the ground.  They were planted this season and last season in early spring.  Varieties are LZ, cotton candy, Phoenix, fruit punch, mallika, PPK, ice cream.  We definitely noticed the propensity of these plants to flower.  Most flowered vigorously.  Last year we made the mistake of cutting of the flowering stalks and they flowered again.  This year, we left them on and are painstakingly removing the pea sized fruit one by one. The plants seem to be putting on vegetative growth, albeit slowly.  Will this continue?  If we are are okay with slow growth, can we keep the trees as They are?  Or should we buy manilla rootstocks and graft them all to make sure that we don't lose the trees altogether?  Then, keep those for scions in pots and do what you recommend starting with planted manilla rootstocks?

Thanks in advance for your mango tree growing wisdom!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Mulch in San Diego
« on: March 02, 2017, 03:48:57 PM »
For those who live in San Diego, where do you get your mulch from and what kind do you buy that works well for your fruit trees?  We will need bulk delivery (about 20-25 CY).

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherimoyas in San Diego
« on: February 26, 2017, 08:08:01 PM »
Thanks!  I went to the Hillcrest FM today and got some Pierce cherimoyas.  Usually, all you can find at other FM's are Booth and Dr. White.  Booth has good flavor but often very seedy to the point of not being worth it.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Cherimoyas in San Diego
« on: February 25, 2017, 11:55:17 PM »
I just purchased 5 lbs of Cherimoyas from a small scale farmer in Fallbrook, CA.  The seller had no idea what variety she grows.  That got me wondering, does anyone know of a place that sells Cherimoyas of known variety in San Diego?  I would like to try named cultivars (and sadly I was out of town and missed the tasting event at the SCREC).  Thanks!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Fabric pots - Durability?
« on: February 20, 2017, 02:11:09 PM »
Anybody use heavy duty fabric pots for container grown fruit trees?  Brands you like?  I'm wondering if roots grow out of them eventually and if they dry out too quickly.  Seems like a lightweight and inexpensive option.  If not, what type (and size) container would you use for a permanent pot for a Cherimoya tree that you plan to keep small?  And, where do you buy from?

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Thanks!  I am going to get some budwood and try to graft Selma but it's good to know that there is a back up plan if needed.

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Thanks.  I am already a member of the North County San Diego CRFG.  They subtropical scion exchange has been pretty small in past 2 years.  I also asked for budwood on their facebook page with no response.  I will try Bonita Creek Nursery. 

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Is anyone selling the following Cherimoya trees?

Selma
Nata
Big Sister

If not in So Cal, must be willing to ship.

If not grafted trees, anyone have budwood? 

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