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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Reed Avocado tree Weeping?
« on: February 16, 2018, 01:06:37 AM »
I see what you mean now. Yeah, that's irritating. My Reed actually stood up on its own before some of my other avocado trees. It seems to depend more on the individual tree and its training in the nursery more than the variety, in my experience.

You can stake it, especially with two stakes on either side. I can attach some photos if you'd like. You can also do some pruning. I tend to do a combination of both if necessary because I get impatient. I hate trees that can't stand up on their own after no more than a year of staking, max.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Reed Avocado tree Weeping?
« on: February 14, 2018, 09:01:19 PM »
Yes, my Reed weeps whenever a limb has a lot of fruit because Reeds get heavy. Sometimes I thin or prune such limbs, but you can also prop with 2x4s as the commercial farmers do.

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About Holiday:
I'm not sure why Julie Frink mentions it as one to plant if you have a small space in your yard, except that the tree is very small. I've never known a Holiday tree that is very productive, especially compared to some other smallish avocado trees like Pinkerton or Gwen. My suggestion to someone with a small space would be to grow one of those or a Reed or Lamb, and use your pruning shears to keep it to size. You're guaranteed to get more fruit that way. And isn't the fruit the reason to grow an avocado tree?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado tree water requirements
« on: January 17, 2018, 12:55:25 AM »
"How water hungry are Avocado trees compared to other fruit trees?"
In my yard, I've tried to get away with the least water possible, and I've noticed that deciduous fruit trees like apples and peaches need the least, citrus are intermediate, and avocados need the most.

"What happen if you don't give it enough water? Will it not fruit at all or will the fruit be smaller or less tasty?"
In the town where I grew up, I knew of a couple of avocado trees that were unirrigated. So they lived off of only rainfall, and this is in Southern California where it's dry all summer and only around 18 inches of rain fell there in the winter, on average.

The trees didn't look great. One had only a couple fruit each year and its leaves always looked very stressed in the fall. The other had a dozen or more fruit each year and looked better than some irrigated trees I've seen (maybe even some in my own yard!). But this tree was in a flat area in a vacant lot near a road and probably gathered a lot of extra rain through road runoff. It also had a deep, undisturbed, natural mulch.

So, the fruit were few on both trees, but I must say they always tasted very good.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Nabal vs Holiday
« on: January 17, 2018, 12:40:48 AM »
Yes, the eating seasons are similar among the Reed, Holiday, and Nabal. But some other qualities are dissimilar.

Fruit of all three taste excellent to me. But a slight nod would have to go to the Reed and Nabal over the Holiday. That's just my taste though.

If I were choosing to grow a Nabal or a Holiday, I would grow a Nabal provided I had the space to let it get at least 12 feet. Nabal is more productive from the trees I have and the trees I've seen. The only downsides of Nabal I've noticed are that it gets thrips damage (which is only superficially ugly) and its skin is thick like a shell so you do have to learn to judge its ripeness by toothpicking into the stem or another technique.

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Totally agree that this is so subjective.

A month or so ago, I found myself surprised to find that when I ate a Bacon side by side with a Hass, I slightly preferred the Bacon. Of course, Bacon's season was about prime then while Hass's prime taste will not come for a couple more months (in my yard in San Diego County). And I find Hass to taste awesome at the right time, as good as any other avocado I know.

I sometimes think Fuerte is my favorite, but it's not perfect. Sometimes it has a few fibers, the seed is on the large side, and sometimes the seed coat doesn't adhere to the seed. But dang it tastes so rich just to the right level for me.

Reed is hard to beat in almost every category. And the productivity blows most varieties away.

If you're just thinking of flavor, you might say Jan Boyce, for example. But it's not perfect as it doesn't peel as well as Hass does.

And how about Pinkerton?! Tastes great to me, plus its seed is tiny so you get so much flesh.

About when to harvest Gwen: it might help to refer to the release dates that the Cal. Dept. of Food and Ag. issues for commercial farmers. URL: http://www.californiaavocadogrowers.com/sites/default/files/documents/Avocado-Maturity-Release-2017-2018.pdf

For Gwen, smalls can be picked starting April 3. I find it helpful to compare the release dates to other varieties I have. So, you might compare the Gwen release date to Hass (Jan. 16) or Lamb (July 17) just to give you the idea that Gwen is predicted to be mature some three months after Hass but three months before Lamb. It's just a prediction on their part, but I think it's useful all the same.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Can you overmulch citrus in San Diego?
« on: December 26, 2017, 10:13:55 PM »
Bush2beach,

I am in San Diego county and my experiences align with your perspective on mulching for the most part. I've never seen a citrus grove that adds much around here though. They don't remove leaves, but neither do they truck in wood chips, for example. When I've asked they say they know it's a good thing but it's too expensive.  I'm wondering if you can guide me to a commercial grove that mulches in our area. I'd like to check it out.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Overmulching?
« on: December 15, 2017, 11:05:18 AM »
I'm in San Diego county. I normally mulch with tree trimmings to about six inches deep once or twice a year.

Doesn't matter if it's touching the trunk in my yard; I have sandy loam soil, and I irrigate relatively infrequently and out toward the trees' canopy edge.

I wait to apply a new layer until midwinter though, once we've had a few inches of rain, because otherwise you've got to water a lot to soak the mulch and get water down to the soil below.

I wouldn't pass up the opportunity to get that second load. Never know when you'll get another convenient chance.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado thread
« on: December 10, 2017, 10:42:24 PM »
Check out this article that talks of seedless avocados. Do you think they're referring to Fuerte cukes? And my gosh, do the Brits really find it that challenging to cut open an avocado that has a seed?

http://amp.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2017/12/cocktail_avocado_promoted_as_safer_version_by_british_grocer_selling_them.html

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado thread
« on: December 04, 2017, 10:15:09 AM »
Thanks Mark. Speaking of Gwen, mine is flowering right now, more and earlier than any of my other avocado varieties. Same for you?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado thread
« on: December 03, 2017, 05:25:19 PM »
Mark,
Are the avocados in your greenhouse hand-pollinated or pollinated by insects?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado thread
« on: November 05, 2017, 10:45:01 PM »
Anyone notice their Sir-Prize getting more tip burn than other varieties? I have about ten varieties, and every year my Sir-Prize has the worst tip burn. I'm certain I water it as much as my other trees, so I'm wondering if it's the scion or the rootstock of this particular tree that's susceptible.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado thread
« on: October 23, 2017, 10:02:04 PM »
Yes, a nasty day indeed.

My Fuerte and Pinkerton are also pushing a couple of flower buds, not yet open. But my aunt lives about a mile from the ocean in San Diego County and her Fuerte was already in near full bloom last week. I was surprised to find that.

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P.S. It's so odd to me that Sprouts isn't marketing them as locally grown and charging a premium as WFMarket is. Not only that, but the fruit is in a bin that just says "Green mangos." If you didn't notice the Ava's USA sticker you'd never know.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sir Prize Avocados from Mexico?
« on: October 09, 2017, 08:16:43 PM »
I'm in SD county. My SirPrize has yet to bear, so I can't speak from experience, but I'm sure someone will. (Brad?) Everyone I've talked to says their season is about the same as Fuerte, which starts around November and gets better through winter and even into spring. I'd love to see a photo of your tree. Please share if you can.

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There are also California Keitts at the Sprouts in Poway, as of last week. They're not conspicuously signed, and they're only $2each

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado thread
« on: October 03, 2017, 10:18:03 PM »
I agree that the left one looks like it could be Fuerte, and the middle one could be Pinkerton, but the one on the right looks unfamiliar. Arc310, is it from a tree in your yard that you didn't plant? You're so lucky to have the varieties this month.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado thread
« on: October 03, 2017, 05:10:07 PM »
If you're in California, what avocados are you eating from your yard now in early October?

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There's been no commercial citrus industry for decades (and so no monoculture) in the parts of Los Angeles county where trees infected with HLB were found.

I'm no fan of monoculture, but I have to acknowledge that fact. It scares me because it implies that my neighborhood and yard are vulnerable too.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado thread
« on: September 28, 2017, 10:01:53 PM »
Behlgarden,
I'm also very surprised to hear your Reed isn't productive. I've never seen or heard of such a Reed. Can you post a picture? Where are you located?

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There are California Keitts (Ava's not Wong's) at Whole Foods Market in Del Mar, San Diego (Via de la Valle exit off 5).


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: corona avocado
« on: September 13, 2017, 01:43:39 AM »
Joshua,
By the way, the Corona I tasted in Carpinteria looked just like the ones in your photo and video. I wrote in my notes at the time, "shape like Fuerte but lighter green skin, seed pointy like Zutano."

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: corona avocado
« on: September 13, 2017, 01:39:10 AM »
Curious to me to hear these positive things about Corona because I got one at the Carpinteria farmers market last summer (end of July) from a guy selling some uncommon avocado varieties and I found that Corona didn't taste very good; it tasted overly mature. I recognize that I shouldn't have judged it strongly based on that single fruit tasting though. This summer I also went to the Carp. farmers market looking for that guy, but he wasn't there.

If the info at the UCR database is right and it originated near Goleta, then someone in the Santa Barbara and Carpinteria areas might still have some Corona trees.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Passifloras suited for a drier climate?
« on: September 13, 2017, 01:19:09 AM »
Yeah, I'm in basically the same climate as Spaugh in inland San Diego County that is on the dry side and my passion fruit do pretty well. What I've found is that they continue to grow and flower like crazy even if I don't give them much water, but if I want a lot of juicy fruit then I need to water them adequately.

The varieties I've tried are Nancy Garrison, Black Knight, Frederick, and Purple Possum. Purple Possum has been my favorite so far in terms of fruit taste.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: The Reed avocado thread
« on: August 12, 2017, 10:05:02 PM »
My favorite way to eat a Reed is as a personal bowl of guacamole. You guys ever do this? My son demonstrates:



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